EPT[Patch 4.15] Master Tier General Discussion - Page 54
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On September 05 2014 20:14 Maluk wrote: I mean why would you create a "story" if it is that bad. Just don't do anything at all then. "Bad" is subjective. Aside from the plot holes (and stuff like "how would the league enforce its policy to begin with" or "how would it deal with rogue summoners assembling and trying to contact city-states to replace the League with their own, more complacent organisation"), there were a lot of fine and interesting concepts in the original lore, either from a world-building viewpoint, or just to explore (an old red post stated that while a huge spell maintained over the rift during matches prevents champions from dying, they do feel the pain until they're restored at the summoning platform; Brand probably doesn't care, Garen is highly disciplined, Swain's lore speaks for itself, but what of, say, Syndra or Gragas? Or Rengar? "Thrill" or not, you've gotta be a masochist to volunteer in there). If they remold the lore into more pointedly defined factions at odds, and without a "neutral" base to level the playing field? Compare highly-trained and militarised Demacia and Noxus to opportunistic adventurers and tricksters from Bilgewater who lack a government, or the loose cannons from Zaun who don't even care about theirs (the most "influential" champions from Zaun probably being Mundo and Viktor, the former has made a wide array of (applied) discoveries, the latter is stated as having a following amongst Zaun's denizens; Singed is more or less tied to Noxus because contracts), and it becomes harder to make it all fit. | ||
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Maluk
France987 Posts
On September 05 2014 21:34 Alaric wrote: "Bad" is subjective. Aside from the plot holes [...]. Except there is no plot at all to begin with. And I think this is why they decided to revamp the "lore", to be able to create an actual story using the League of Legends world and characters. If they don't then yes starting from scratch is absolutely pointless. | ||
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kongoline
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35162 Posts
On September 05 2014 22:35 kongoline wrote: lol@wickd spamming irelia in korean soloQ even when things like mao are open, gotta admire even after all those years he never gets bored of her When a man finds his waifu, he knows. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On September 05 2014 22:35 kongoline wrote: lol@wickd spamming irelia in korean soloQ even when things like mao are open, gotta admire even after all those years he never gets bored of her lolwat, one of wickd's only 2 solo q losses was when it was him and shook, vs tabz nyph and shook In solo q lol | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11637 Posts
On September 05 2014 22:50 Osmoses wrote: According to that logic my waifu is Gangplank. Well, he would be your Husbando. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Also if I get Void Staff as a first or second item, is Liandry's Torment still good? Sometimes, I get Zhonya's second instead of D-Cap (usually Zhonya is my second item after Void Staff or DCap) and then after that I don't know what to get. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
http://www.lolcounter.com/ Its not black and white though, alot of matchups are skillbased, slight advantages or just grey areas. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
edit: oh and Holy Grail, Deathcap, Voidstaff, Hourglass is pretty cookie cutter. Doesn't really matter in which order you get it but Grail is probably the best first buy. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35162 Posts
On September 05 2014 23:41 Capped wrote: I find this website is a pretty good baseline of general counters, if you weed out the silly stuff. http://www.lolcounter.com/ Its not black and white though, alot of matchups are skillbased, slight advantages or just grey areas. I hate this site. It causes so many people to pick champions they don't play in effort to counter and then lose lane because they don't know what they're doing and the other person does because they've seen the lane a billion times. | ||
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kongoline
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On September 06 2014 00:17 Torte de Lini wrote: Yeah, I usually buy Holy Grail but it seems pointless if I'm not ganking as soon as I get it though. Huh, grail is your mana/cdr item. The passive on assists is just a bonus. Ori you pretty much build grail first in majority of matchups. Sometimes you go tear/morello's but that's more niche. Either way it's your mana item not a ganking item so I'm not sure why you think you need to start ganking when you get it. Think you misunderstand the item. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On September 06 2014 00:27 Gahlo wrote: I hate this site. It causes so many people to pick champions they don't play in effort to counter and then lose lane because they don't know what they're doing and the other person does because they've seen the lane a billion times. Well thats not really the sites fault lol. I get what you're saying though. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On September 06 2014 00:41 Numy wrote: Huh, grail is your mana/cdr item. The passive on assists is just a bonus. Ori you pretty much build grail first in majority of matchups. Sometimes you go tear/morello's but that's more niche. Either way it's your mana item not a ganking item so I'm not sure why you think you need to start ganking when you get it. Think you misunderstand the item. Ah, I understand now. I usually get it before boots or sorcerer's boots | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On September 06 2014 00:51 Torte de Lini wrote: Ah, I understand now. I usually get it before boots or sorcerer's boots Yea that's perfectly fine. You only really want boots that soon if you against someone you need movement, like say Xerath to dodge his stuff. | ||
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