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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 02 2014 01:32 GMT
#761
Why would Draven even think about building ER? Lol. He has zero meaningful mana costs unless you suck at catching axes, in which case just catch the Damn axes. Lol.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 02 2014 02:07 GMT
#762
I tried building ER on a Varus today.

It felt good in lane and when farming, but the mana regen was fairly pointless in tower sieges because I wasn't getting to auto much.

And I didn't finish building it until laning was pretty much over, so....
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 02 2014 02:13 GMT
#763


My mind os blown
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 02 2014 02:30 GMT
#764
On September 02 2014 11:07 Ketara wrote:
I tried building ER on a Varus today.

It felt good in lane and when farming, but the mana regen was fairly pointless in tower sieges because I wasn't getting to auto much.

And I didn't finish building it until laning was pretty much over, so....


I think this is one of two key flaws of ER, but while the "there is no regen until completed" gets talked about a lot, the fact that autos are sometimes hard to come by during sieges and positioning battles around neutral objectives rarely does.
Freeeeeeedom
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 02 2014 02:49 GMT
#765
There are two issues IMO:

1. No regen until completed, as described. This makes the effect kicks in really, really late until you farmed all 3200g of it.

2. Regen requires autoattacking. I think this is really serious. Let's face it, ADCs are not Swain/Karthus. When an ADC/Jayce uses a lot of mana, it's because the said ADC wants to poke from long range. When you are poking, ER doesn't really do too much because you don't get a lot of chances to autoattack.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
September 02 2014 03:04 GMT
#766
You get the mana back from autoing minions.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 02 2014 03:08 GMT
#767
because teammates don't just nuke the shit out of waves when you need to lifesteal surely they will notice your mana is low.
Carrilord has arrived.
InfSunday
Profile Joined March 2013
United States735 Posts
September 02 2014 03:09 GMT
#768
I guess the problem with ER I've found is that it's never necessary over IE/BT. I've never built it (or not built it) and ended up in a situation where I'd say "well, if I didn't have mana there I would've died", and if I'm not getting a kill because of mana mostly it means that they're running away because the rest of the team is dead because the superior damage item helped me win a teafight. If you're really that spammy on AD carries, just buy a mana pot or two every back.
Call me Sunday
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 02 2014 03:10 GMT
#769
On September 02 2014 12:08 Slusher wrote:
because teammates don't just nuke the shit out of waves when you need to lifesteal surely they will notice your mana is low.

The only thing more infuriating than this is when you're low as a jungler and the fuckers take the camps.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 02 2014 03:22 GMT
#770
On September 02 2014 12:04 GolemMadness wrote:
You get the mana back from autoing minions.


True, but you rarely get the luxury and your teammates may just AOE them to death instantly.

Kind of like when you are Fiddle and you are low.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 02 2014 03:27 GMT
#771
By the way, I've rewritten the league rank miner and now it works (it was offline for like 2+ months because Riot changes the output format). I can now once again mine players' league tier on NA (Bronze - Challenger).

I am considering mining (almost) every player's league rank once every 2-4 weeks, and try to detect gross changes (e.g. a player was Bronze with 200+ games played, then 25 games later he is Gold). It'll be curious to see how many people are "believed" to be boosted.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 02 2014 03:34 GMT
#772
On September 02 2014 12:08 Slusher wrote:
because teammates don't just nuke the shit out of waves when you need to lifesteal surely they will notice your mana is low.

It's not just team mates being retarded either. If you are defending and getting several autos that is a miracle, and often it's better to blow up the wave while pushing to stop the other team from killing your minions.

Plus neutral objectives often don't allow for much aaing. "Situational midgame item" is not a recipe for success in this game. Even worse, enough buffs to fix the item would probably break the game.
Freeeeeeedom
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
September 02 2014 03:46 GMT
#773
On September 02 2014 12:22 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2014 12:04 GolemMadness wrote:
You get the mana back from autoing minions.


True, but you rarely get the luxury and your teammates may just AOE them to death instantly.

Kind of like when you are Fiddle and you are low.

Nunu's the worst since one of his abilities needs creeps.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 02 2014 03:49 GMT
#774
NA just died.

lol wtf.

Dat Monday at 10 pm DDoS.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
September 02 2014 03:49 GMT
#775
Yep, NA dying.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 02 2014 03:52 GMT
#776
Realistically, I aint even mad. lol.

Just means I less tired at work after the long weekend.

o.o
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 02 2014 03:56 GMT
#777
NA ded.
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2400 Posts
September 02 2014 03:59 GMT
#778
1v4, first blood. gg
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
September 02 2014 04:00 GMT
#779
Not sure if this means anything or we were wrong, but had a game where my whole team (all of us were in call), started to get frozen, but their team was conveniently able to move, and simultaneously killed us all.

Happened 3 times literally. Maybe it's the saltyness of it, but we ended up reporting them if they were legit able to do that.
Forever Young
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 02 2014 04:02 GMT
#780
GOod news is though rito put in a thing where if you were in game you can jump queue and instantly rejoin the game.

Cool.

Great feature imo.
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