EPT[Patch 4.14] Gnar General Discussion - Page 66
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Alaric
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
if you werent destroying them in 20 mins you lose at 40 taric was just really strong beause you could stack armour and be really tanky in lane and do great damage while being able to 1v1 adcs later in the game kinda like ali now also nobody played morg and braum wasnt in the game and alistar wasnt buffed and nami probably wasn't buffed enough yet so liek the best supports were leona thresh and taric | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
dazzle auto shatter auto heal auto radiance auto shatter auto for SICK damage | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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On August 24 2014 23:48 Sufficiency wrote: I actually reported that thread. He was obviously taking advantage of our resources. It's not like he actually bothered to read any of the suggestions we wrote. If he wanted to advertise his stream, he can make another thread for it. I added him on LoL yesterday, I wanna see if I can get some sneak-insults in | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 25 2014 06:31 Slayer91 wrote: well dazzle auto shatter auto heal auto radiance auto shatter auto for SICK damage That's how it works on paper. If you can weave attacks and spells perfectly he can do tons of CC and damage - PROVIDED THAT HIS TARGET IS STATIONARY. The problem, I feel, is that he is melee and has no other gapclosers. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
you can save shatter for when you want to finish out the combo and all | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
His teamfight impact is also not that great. Lategame his ult is just a mini baron buff, and while he gives everybody on his team a couple cloth armors with W, it really isn't that much. His ult and W are unlikely to hit somebody useful(shredding 30 armor off 300 doesn't help too much), and flash stun isn't exactly an awesome engage. #Freesoulshroud though. I really do think there's room for an aurabot support, and that could be taric. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On August 25 2014 08:21 Alaric wrote: Riot wouldn't want an aura bot. They don't like auras in general. Don't expect anything of the sort. I dont know why.. For some reason they have this idea that n aura needs to be OP for people to care, but like thats just not true imo. Maybe in like Bronze, but I guarantee in OGN and LCS Aura items that aren't just bad would be bought every game and eventually be bought every game in other levels too. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
The idea is that auras providing passive benefit means when you watch or play out a fight, you don't directly feel the impact of the aura unless you're really well versed in the game and how much damage people do/take. Someone with a very basic understanding of the game won't understand how, say, Aegis aura is affecting incoming damage and there's no good way to visually represent that. It's not exciting to see a fight won because of an aura, and this affects both spectators of high level games, and people playing out their own games. The flaw in this logic is that this applies to many non-active items that provide incremental benefit by virtue of their stats provided, not just aura items, and many of these items have not received similar treatment to auras. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On August 25 2014 08:30 TheYango wrote: Their logic is kind of sound, tbh. The idea is that auras providing passive benefit means when you watch or play out a fight, you don't directly feel the impact of the aura unless you're really well versed in the game and how much damage people do/take. Someone with a very basic understanding of the game won't understand how, say, Aegis aura is affecting incoming damage and there's no good way to visually represent that. It's not exciting to see a fight won because of an aura, and this affects both spectators of high level games, and people playing out their own games. The flaw in this logic is that this applies to many non-active items that provide incremental benefit by virtue of their stats provided, not just aura items, and many of these items have not received similar treatment to auras. Yeah, sure getting extra stats doesn't exactly tickle my jimmies as a spectator, but knowing one team has an edge in teamfights because of those aura items does. If people can't find a fight exciting, or the effect of items exciting, we might as well remove all items from the game anyway. Nearly every game I've seen in a long time has something silly like a single dorans blade giving one champion a huge advantage in a fight. Its not exactly an empire-style nunu ult.. buts its kind of the foundation of the entire game... Even if you look at like Aegis though, it is so bad now compared to almost any other item unless you have a fight with atleast 4 people on your team, yet it is still bought in every pro game. I think its exciting. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
next we're going to talk about how taric was great in the roam meta compared to passive supports | ||
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kongoline
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On August 25 2014 08:38 iCanada wrote: Yeah, sure getting extra stats doesn't exactly tickle my jimmies as a spectator, but knowing one team has an edge in teamfights because of those aura items does. If people can't find a fight exciting, or the effect of items exciting, we might as well remove all items from the game anyway. Nearly every game I've seen in a long time has something silly like a single dorans blade giving one champion a huge advantage in a fight. Its not exactly an empire-style nunu ult.. buts its kind of the foundation of the entire game... Even if you look at like Aegis though, it is so bad now compared to almost any other item unless you have a fight with atleast 4 people on your team, yet it is still bought in every pro game. I think its exciting. I would also say that Riot's secret (whether conscious or subconscious) desire to keep auras down is that they really have not been able to successfully balance aura heros. And it generally is hard to do that in the game how they have designed it (flat power curves, etc). | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On August 25 2014 09:11 kongoline wrote: lol 2 years, it wasnt so long ago when he got reworked into permaban because he was so op he could 1v5 late game Yeah, thats what I thought. He definitely has been Olaf'd, or S2 Eve'd though. Just played him on my smurf as a support, and wow... he just like isn't a threat at all. Shatter does like no damage anymore. | ||
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Thermia
United States866 Posts
On August 25 2014 06:38 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: I added him on LoL yesterday, I wanna see if I can get some sneak-insults in I looked at that thread and watched his stream for a bit after reading about it in here, apparently he was pretending to be a diamond smurf or something while feeding/afk farming (i use the term farming very loosely) in a silver game while complaining about his team as they got destroyed. Great entertainment material. | ||
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