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On August 19 2014 17:13 ghrur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2014 17:05 739 wrote:On August 19 2014 17:01 ghrur wrote:On August 19 2014 15:11 739 wrote:
From 12 games win streak down to losing 13 games out of last 15.
That's not QQ I'm just kinda mad about those Rito downswings that happens if you win too many games. At least on my level. Damn, being matched up with afkers and trolls ain't no fun. Did you space out your games? And have you been sure to watch the VODs or analyze why you were losing those games? I think tilting can easily happen when you start going on a losing streak, and not analyzing/practicing certain points will also make improvement much slower so you can't continue those win streaks/snap losing streaks. I never look back. No time to analyze my past games as I'm playing 1-2 games daily only, no time for watching VODs or anything. I mean, when I went on that win streak I felt like I'm playing my A-game and I had REALLY nice teammates, communicative, focusing objectives, no flaming, no afk, no trolls. I went up from G5 ~40ip to G4 91ip and I started tilting hard that I went back to G5 0ip. I know I've been playing sloppy but trust me, every 2nd game I had someone afk in my team or someone just trolled or fed pretty hardcore. Like we had those bot premades doing Jinx/Leona vs Draven/Janna and ended up giving triple kill to Draven after our Shaco ganked bot lane. They gave like 12 kills overall in the first 15 minutes of the game. Then even when I was trying to carry hard as a mid laner I couldn't do shit, because Draven 3-hitted me later on... Personally, I have a policy where I think that you HAVE to analyze your past games or else what are you learning? It's like, trying to improve at BW without examining your replays and seeing where you fucked up your build order, scouting, etc. And 1-2 games daily is still enough to point out a plethora of mistake for low level players. I mean, you could always say teammates should've been better, but if you want to get out of whatever league it's about what you need to do better because you're making a ton of mistakes. You just need to spot them and improve on them. Note: I don't watch all of my replays, but I'll keep in mind something like "I really fucked up CSing hard this game. I need to go practice that" and then proceed to just practice it for like 10 minutes in a custom game or something. I think it helps. :/
I have a ranked journal for things like this.
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
On August 19 2014 17:13 ghrur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2014 17:05 739 wrote:On August 19 2014 17:01 ghrur wrote:On August 19 2014 15:11 739 wrote:
From 12 games win streak down to losing 13 games out of last 15.
That's not QQ I'm just kinda mad about those Rito downswings that happens if you win too many games. At least on my level. Damn, being matched up with afkers and trolls ain't no fun. Did you space out your games? And have you been sure to watch the VODs or analyze why you were losing those games? I think tilting can easily happen when you start going on a losing streak, and not analyzing/practicing certain points will also make improvement much slower so you can't continue those win streaks/snap losing streaks. I never look back. No time to analyze my past games as I'm playing 1-2 games daily only, no time for watching VODs or anything. I mean, when I went on that win streak I felt like I'm playing my A-game and I had REALLY nice teammates, communicative, focusing objectives, no flaming, no afk, no trolls. I went up from G5 ~40ip to G4 91ip and I started tilting hard that I went back to G5 0ip. I know I've been playing sloppy but trust me, every 2nd game I had someone afk in my team or someone just trolled or fed pretty hardcore. Like we had those bot premades doing Jinx/Leona vs Draven/Janna and ended up giving triple kill to Draven after our Shaco ganked bot lane. They gave like 12 kills overall in the first 15 minutes of the game. Then even when I was trying to carry hard as a mid laner I couldn't do shit, because Draven 3-hitted me later on... Personally, I have a policy where I think that you HAVE to analyze your past games or else what are you learning? It's like, trying to improve at BW without examining your replays and seeing where you fucked up your build order, scouting, etc. And 1-2 games daily is still enough to point out a plethora of mistake for low level players. I mean, you could always say teammates should've been better, but if you want to get out of whatever league it's about what you need to do better because you're making a ton of mistakes. You just need to spot them and improve on them.
Probably you're right but I've never analyzed my past games in both LoL, DotA2 or even SC:BW. I just play for fun, I'm not aiming to become Diamond player by the end of the season but Rito matchmaking sometimes fucks my head up for real. I mean, I know I'm doing mistakes, I know that I tend to overextend sometimes thinking that I can easily screw those 2 people in 1v2 situation when being fed and end up being rekt but I almost always win my lane. Or when I do jungle I do really assist all lanes that needs my help, I give them kills, I take kills, I tax, I help to push but still, can't carry all of the lanes, I can take care of 2 of them.
Anyway, my point is that I should probably stop playing when I hit 2-3 loses in a row, shut down the client, open twitch and enjoy some livestream but I just can't. After losing 2-3-4 games in a row I'm always telling myself that I'll probably win next game if I get role and champ I know I'm capable of carrying the whole team.
Like I did after losing 9 or 10 games in a row, I finally picked Akali jungle (I'm like 8-1 with her in jungle) and said fuck this I'm gonna slay those newbs and I did. Ended up like 24-11 in kills, because late game I was getting instafocused once I've appeared in the melee range of enemy team, good shit I had GA and Zhonya up.
I think that analyzing games for players that aren't aiming to improve THAT much is pointless and playing more and more helps better then watching replays of your past games. I know what kind of mistakes I do and I try not to repeat them anymore. Actually I don't rambo in 1v2 or 1v3 even vs low hp.
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Yeah man, seems like you just need to stop playing for a while after losing like 2-3 games. That'll probably make it more enjoyable and help you with tilting. 
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
On August 19 2014 17:42 ghrur wrote:Yeah man, seems like you just need to stop playing for a while after losing like 2-3 games. That'll probably make it more enjoyable and help you with tilting.
yup my lolking perfectly shows my tilting skills
14.08 - 1613 LKS
16.08 - 1502 LKS
Jesus, that is pretty sad if I keep looking at it over and over again.
Edit : Yeah I had 2 days off from work and I've decided to grind a bit, I was pretty sure I'm gonna hit that G3 in next 3-4 games (91ip + 2-0 or 2-1 in promos) and it should be easy road to platinu but NO. I need to admit that I was pretty scared playing after 12 games win streak, because I knew that matchmaking will screw me up a bit in upcoming games.
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I don't think it's you tilting, the matchmaking is just weird, some days ago i peaked to dia1 50+ LP (which is very high for me this season) by playing nami non stop, I just won and won over and over again playing the same build/style and never felt I was playing with people better than me, in fact I was the guy doing the plays.
I then fell back to low dia1 (lost like 10 games in a row) by playing the exact same champ (Nami) the exact same way (or maybe even better because when you play a champ 30 times in a row you start mastering it :D).
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Sometimes you have to wonder if the matchmaking knows who trolls / afks and just throws them at you / your team respectively.
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How this manifests is that when you have targetable objects near each other (like Taric near a tower, or minions packed in a wave) you will get imprecise targeting even though your mouse is over the model of the thing you're trying to target.
I fucking KNEW it wasn't me missclicking my friggin' spells and Qing or Eing a minion as Irelia when my cursor was over the damn enemy off laner. Good grief, it happened way too much for my taste (and take that, teammates who flamed me or made fun of me depending if we were premade, guess who was right and not making excuses).
On August 19 2014 14:13 Vanka wrote:
Ashe is a late game hypercarry. She used to be stronger in this role before all the cleanses became more common, but she still is. Ashe's low damage is deceptive because she comes with a built in red buff (that slows more than red buff late game), because it translates as a lot of actual damage. Sure, ashe will do less damage comparing auto to auto, but she will eventually get more autos off because the opponent can't disengage. She destroys bruisers late game, not as much as vayne, sure, but kill off the gapcloser and you will never ever touch her and you won't be escaping either. I've kited two bruisers before, alternating autos between them, and ended getting a double kill as then ran forward at me and then tried to run away.
Her late game is not an issue more than kogmaw's immobility late game is an issue. Her laning is not a strong as others, sure, but keep in mind the ie buff bt nerf was a big buff to her too, in addition to trist and crew.
Also between her passive + IE/Shiv, volley, and her ult she does a surprising amount of unreturnable burst.
TL;DR: Ashe does as much/more damage than other ads because slows = more autos
Tristana will get 6 attacks off in the time it takes you to move in range and attack 3 times and kill the target. It doesn't matter if you can get more hits on a running target if you can kill it faster than it moves out of range without the slow (also note that as soon as a target is slowed by someone else than Ashe her utility takes a nosedive, since most slows are stronger than hers now; there are also a bunch of AoE slows/slow fields, with Kog, Ziggs, Braum, Thresh, Lulu, Maokai, etc.).
And Ashe's initiation power was limited to the midgame when they nerfed ECA's cooldown (and midgame matters much less now), to which you can add Banshee's popularity. Ashe can initiate from afar and even out of view, but it doesn't matter when you need to show up to pop the Banshee's anyway.
Which is another issue with the game not limited to Ashe, and I'd like to see Banshee's refocused on the shield rather than being the best ball of stats available if you want MR. More incentive to build SV (disappeared after the CDR nerfs), GA (tied to assassins' troubles this season) or QSS (don't fucking nerf shit like Fiddle's fear and give us more reliable initiation so we don't have to fish and being able to cancel a particular cc/debuff becomes valuable again).
On August 19 2014 15:11 739 wrote:
From 12 games win streak down to losing 13 games out of last 15.
That's not QQ I'm just kinda mad about those Rito downswings that happens if you win too many games. At least on my level. Damn, being matched up with afkers and trolls ain't no fun.
"Hey I'm saying Riot's matchmaking is rigged to make you lose if you win too much by putting you with afkers but it's not QQ."
What.
Oh and Capped does it too. Even the DotA 2 forum moved away from this.
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On August 19 2014 16:55 schmutttt wrote:
Am I the only person that wonders how sirchez is even in diamond?
Some of his builds are pretty bad, but I mean he only plays like three champions and has ~6 accounts in D1, so I guess he has to play around with some new builds to make things more interesting.
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On August 19 2014 19:01 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2014 15:11 739 wrote:
From 12 games win streak down to losing 13 games out of last 15.
That's not QQ I'm just kinda mad about those Rito downswings that happens if you win too many games. At least on my level. Damn, being matched up with afkers and trolls ain't no fun. "Hey I'm saying Riot's matchmaking is rigged to make you lose if you win too much by putting you with afkers but it's not QQ." What. Oh and Capped does it too. Even the DotA 2 forum moved away from this.
Do i have to /sarcasm for you to make it more obvious.
You're always complaining or moaning about something anyway alaric, why cant others :3
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Well yeah, you kinda have when it's so in line with most of your recent, serious posts.
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On August 19 2014 19:42 Alaric wrote:
Well yeah, you kinda have when it's so in line with most of your recent, serious posts.
What recent posts were those? Because the only one in "My Posts" in here that was relevant has been about amumu.
This has revealed just how little i post in here tbh and 99% of the time its offtopic replies to people now. Im becoming a lurker t.t
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Lets make this ontopic!
My mechanics really suck. Like my CS blows chunks, i've gotten to gold off support/jungling so it hasn't been an issue. How do i improve my CS / Laning ? Just playing games doesn't seem to be cutting it, i'm probably doing something wrong.
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On August 19 2014 19:45 Capped wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2014 19:42 Alaric wrote:
Well yeah, you kinda have when it's so in line with most of your recent, serious posts. What recent posts were those? Because the only one in "My Posts" in here that was relevant has been about amumu. This has revealed just how little i post in here tbh and 99% of the time its offtopic replies to people now. Im becoming a lurker t.t -- Lets make this ontopic! My mechanics really suck. Like my CS blows chunks, i've gotten to gold off support/jungling so it hasn't been an issue. How do i improve my CS / Laning ? Just playing games doesn't seem to be cutting it, i'm probably doing something wrong.
Go into a custom game, champ of your choice, pick 3 bots so you'll have something to lane against, and just practice last hitting. Do this for about 5-10 minutes, because that's the only non-game dependant part of lane phase you can practice.
Good last hitting makes farming later on in the game much easier, because you have more AD, more AP, better tank stats to lane etc.
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Watching the SEA/TW regionals right now. What the fuck is Safety building with that Warden's mail on Rengar when he already has Omen? XD
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Yo friends, is there a site that helps you determine whether or not a matchup (any matchup that is) is favourable or not? I know of lolcounter.com and some guides on lolking also have notes attached regarding speficic matchups, but they are often outdated.
Thanks for help
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On August 19 2014 20:19 Gahlo wrote:
Watching the SEA/TW regionals right now. What the fuck is Safety building with that Warden's mail on Rengar when he already has Omen? XD
Frozen heart isn't a bad buy on non-mana champs, although less than ideal. And all the other stats are great on Rengar, especially the bulk of CDR. I don't know the team comp he's playing against, but if it's heavy AD, I could understand that choice.
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On August 19 2014 20:50 beefhamburger wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2014 20:19 Gahlo wrote:
Watching the SEA/TW regionals right now. What the fuck is Safety building with that Warden's mail on Rengar when he already has Omen? XD Frozen heart isn't a bad buy on non-mana champs, although less than ideal. And all the other stats are great on Rengar, especially the bulk of CDR. I don't know the team comp he's playing against, but if it's heavy AD, I could understand that choice.
It was heavy AD, I remember at least a Jayce and a Tristana(I've been awake all night, my memory is shit right now) but he still had the capability of buying a thornmail.
On August 19 2014 20:47 Djin)ftw( wrote:
Yo friends, is there a site that helps you determine whether or not a matchup (any matchup that is) is favourable or not? I know of lolcounter.com and some guides on lolking also have notes attached regarding speficic matchups, but they are often outdated.
Thanks for help
Not really. Usually those types of sites are open to public voting and people with shit opinions mass shitty vote.
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FH works against Jayce's W and for anytime Tristana is hitting someone else than him, Thornmail doesn't.
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On August 19 2014 20:47 Djin)ftw( wrote:
Yo friends, is there a site that helps you determine whether or not a matchup (any matchup that is) is favourable or not? I know of lolcounter.com and some guides on lolking also have notes attached regarding speficic matchups, but they are often outdated.
Thanks for help
favorable match ups are a trap outside of the top players.
The skill disparity is big enough within a single soloQ game that outside of some hard counters it doesn't mean a lot to be favorable or not.
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Why are people not building Black Cleaver on Yi ? It seems like it has everything that Yi wants to get. A bit of health on an offensive item helps Yi as he's forced to build tons of offensive stats but has problems of survivability. CDR on an offensive item is the same : CDR helps a ton on Yi but your choices are limited as you need to prioritize offensive items. The armor reduction is very good too and you will get to 5 stacks very fast when your ult is activated.
One of the problems that I see is that BC cannot be a "core" item on Yi as you absolutely need Blade of the Ruined King and Youmu, which forces you to build BC as a third item which is kind of late.
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