I think Quill/Golem would work well on Zac, if it wasn't for the fact that Riot shat on his damage to stop him from being a top laner. As it stands, you can have a billion HP with Zac, but lack of peel and damage means nothing in the current meta of lots of items and lots of damage.

iCanada

Canada10660 Posts

August 19 2014 22:08 GMT

#782

Quill coat is garbage. Just buy offensive jungle item and use the 3x extra farm to buy tanky stuff.

Imo.

turdburgler

England6749 Posts

August 19 2014 22:12 GMT

#783

On August 20 2014 07:08 iCanada wrote:
Quill coat is garbage. Just buy offensive jungle item and use the 3x extra farm to buy tanky stuff.

Imo.

nautilus cant maintain farm without quill coat

iCanada

Canada10660 Posts

August 19 2014 22:16 GMT

#784

Then don't play bad jungles. -.-

Imo anyway.

ZERG_RUSSIAN

10417 Posts

August 19 2014 22:39 GMT

#785

Coat isn't very good (contrary to what I thought pre-release) but Ancient Golem is super strong on tank junglers. I played against a jungle Mundo with scaling hp and %hp runes and got totally shit on after Ancient Golem -> Visage made him completely unkillable.

iCanada

Canada10660 Posts

August 19 2014 22:46 GMT

#786

There's obviously a few exceptions, but they all need to either scale ridiculously well with flat hp, clear really fast, or both.

It's basically like Mundo and Volibear off the top of my head, and a bunch of jungles who I wouldn't call viable.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

August 19 2014 23:04 GMT

#787

Nautilus scales super well because more HP makes his shield even bigger and lets live ridiculously long.
Thing is, it's still Nautilus, so he needs something worth being a wall for. Like Tristana atm. Having 600 HP shields on a ~11s cd is some absurd sustain, but even without them he really easily runs oom, so with them you end up bodyblocking, taking skillshots and trying to stall for your passive in long fights.

iCanada

Canada10660 Posts

August 19 2014 23:53 GMT

#788

Eh, Naut isn't the kind of champion I'd say scales super well, but I suppose that could be a my playstyle thing.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

August 20 2014 00:05 GMT

#789

He's a quintessential tank: he's shit by himself, all his value is in the teammates he keeps alive by doing is thing. So the more worth it is to protect a champion in your team, the more valuable his contribution is. Hence the "he needs particular conditions, like a Tristana".

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

August 20 2014 00:05 GMT

#790

lets say old golem was in the game at the same time, I'd still buy it on every hero being argued quill coat is good on except probly mundo.

tabi + old golem or mobiles + old golem are such a great two item spike in comparison

Kinie

United States3106 Posts

August 20 2014 00:17 GMT

#791

Gnar's IP cost drops from the release of 7800 to the normal 6300 soon, right?

Capped

United Kingdom7236 Posts

August 20 2014 00:22 GMT

#792

thanks for the advice directed @ me earlier today <3

Gorsameth

Netherlands22369 Posts

August 20 2014 00:25 GMT

#793

On August 20 2014 09:17 Kinie wrote:
Gnar's IP cost drops from the release of 7800 to the normal 6300 soon, right?

should be after a week so yes wont be long.

aRyuujin

United States5049 Posts

August 20 2014 00:28 GMT

#794

So i just started playing again after a year or two. What is the fastest way to improve? Should I just download lolreplay again and start watching for mistakes?

las91

United States5080 Posts

August 20 2014 00:32 GMT

#795

On August 20 2014 09:28 aRyuujin wrote:
So i just started playing again after a year or two. What is the fastest way to improve? Should I just download lolreplay again and start watching for mistakes?

Having a plan for your games, reviewing mistakes, journal of stuff, etc. I'm throwing my rating so hard right now tho so I don't think I'm the best person to be giving advice ~.~, just what I try and do when I get stuck.

FinestHour

United States18466 Posts

August 20 2014 01:20 GMT

#796

why thef uck is loss prevented on right now

las91

United States5080 Posts

August 20 2014 01:21 GMT

#797

On August 20 2014 10:20 FinestHour wrote:
why thef uck is loss prevented on right now

na is being weird, people not connecting and very slow getting into games/into queue for me at least

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

August 20 2014 01:23 GMT

#798

How do you guys get out of losing streaks in ranked? I having a hard time trying to get out of one after failing my promos for Silver 1 and now in Silver 3 0 LP :|

Kinie

United States3106 Posts

August 20 2014 01:27 GMT

#799

NA servers are dying again.

PrinceXizor

United States17713 Posts

August 20 2014 01:31 GMT

#800

On August 20 2014 10:20 FinestHour wrote:
why thef uck is loss prevented on right now

According to my facebook, apparently people are just being removed from access to the server altogether. dropping out of games and being unable to log back in to reconnect, or not able to connect in the first place.