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Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
August 20 2014 05:37 GMT
#821
On August 20 2014 13:49 Ethelis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 13:22 Gahlo wrote:
On August 20 2014 13:08 iCanada wrote:
So, been playing Mundo...

Must say, most OP champion in Game. Holy balls. I need to only jungle this guy. AFK Farm fast, become raid boss, win game.

Thanks Mr 5HAT.

On August 20 2014 10:36 Gahlo wrote:
New golem is the shit on Sejuani.


Not really, I played Sej a ton cuz I was excited about Quill before it came out. She literally clears half the speed she did before Quill. The changes were huge nerfs.

I'm talking about golem, not quill.


SotAG isn't the problem at all. It's that Quill blows on 95% of the champs that like SotAG.


ftfy
TrAce/Cpt Jack for president (or both)
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
August 20 2014 05:48 GMT
#822
On August 20 2014 14:37 Anakko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 13:49 Ethelis wrote:
On August 20 2014 13:22 Gahlo wrote:
On August 20 2014 13:08 iCanada wrote:
So, been playing Mundo...

Must say, most OP champion in Game. Holy balls. I need to only jungle this guy. AFK Farm fast, become raid boss, win game.

Thanks Mr 5HAT.

On August 20 2014 10:36 Gahlo wrote:
New golem is the shit on Sejuani.


Not really, I played Sej a ton cuz I was excited about Quill before it came out. She literally clears half the speed she did before Quill. The changes were huge nerfs.

I'm talking about golem, not quill.


SotAG isn't the problem at all. It's that Quill blows on 95% of the champs that like SotAG.


ftfy


QFT.

Its not even that the item itself is bad, its just that the design is stupid. If Quill built into not the tanky jungle item, it would be great. Thing is, only junglers that want Quill are the ones that clear through the virtue of their abilities, and the fact that Quill has no damage amping, and Spirit Stone does, it is just absolute Garbage, because very rarely is it not better to just get the Spirit Stone item and just have twice as much farm.

And the Junglers that needed that early game tankiness are kind of left out in the void of suck. Sejuani is a good example; she has always been a weak duelist early game, relied poretty heavily on teammates to ensure all her important stuff wasn't stolen. Obviously, in Soloqueue relying on your teammates map awareness is... less than a great plan. Before it used to be alright because even though you seceded a huge amount of map pressure and lost buffs, you could usually farm well enough to be a factor. But the Nerf in clear going from Spirit stone to Quill hurts a lot. You can't really recover or stay a-float while you are getting hard invaded anymore, you just kind of sink and get taken out of a game (probably lose too) what would have been a very manageable situation before.

Its not just the early game Quill hurts, it the recovery from having a poor early game that it hurts, which is a rather poor combination.
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
August 20 2014 05:54 GMT
#823
Do you think Riot actually wants people using the client to spectate? Say hypothetically Riot could get a fully working spectator client tomorrow (similar to DotaTV) would they actually implement it? I think they like having the #1 spot on Twitch as it probably gives them better numbers to show to sponsors.
@miicah88
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 20 2014 05:58 GMT
#824
Who's going to spectate through a client instead of watching someone's stream...?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
August 20 2014 05:59 GMT
#825
On August 20 2014 14:32 eagle wrote:
am i only one who think xeraths is godly mid?

He's alright, maybe top tier, but I got bigger favorites. His ult glitch was pretty clutch, but now that's gone .
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
August 20 2014 06:03 GMT
#826
On August 20 2014 14:59 DonKey_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 14:32 eagle wrote:
am i only one who think xeraths is godly mid?

He's alright, maybe top tier, but I got bigger favorites. His ult glitch was pretty clutch, but now that's gone .


He is very scary for sure. Hard to get close to him without getting zapped and its hard to run away from him without getting also zapped.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 20 2014 06:13 GMT
#827
On August 20 2014 14:54 miicah wrote:
Do you think Riot actually wants people using the client to spectate? Say hypothetically Riot could get a fully working spectator client tomorrow (similar to DotaTV) would they actually implement it? I think they like having the #1 spot on Twitch as it probably gives them better numbers to show to sponsors.

If you look at the fraction of people who use DotaTV vs. watch streams, Riot's top dog spot on Twitch would not be remotely jeopardized by people spectating in-client.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 20 2014 06:19 GMT
#828
Don't we already have spectator mode for League anyways?

The reason why we can't spectate tournament games is because they're either password-protected custom games or on the tournament client. Tourney client is used since live servers have potential stability/ddos problems.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 20 2014 06:23 GMT
#829
I know we have a special thread for picks and vids but I just can't stop laughing at this :

+ Show Spoiler +
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 06:44:44
August 20 2014 06:41 GMT
#830
On August 20 2014 14:58 GolemMadness wrote:
Who's going to spectate through a client instead of watching someone's stream...?

I do/would, for multiple reasons:

1) I like being able to control the camera and look at things that are going on outside of one player's perspective.
2) Sometimes I just wanna watch a game instead of listening to qtpie talk about why "MF's ult is completely useless".
3) Being able to check gold/CS/items/hp/levels when I want to is important to me.
4) Seeing both teams at the same time is quite nice for studying timings (mainly for junglers but I mean it's always more fun to watch a game where you know what's happening on both sides IMO).
5) Pause/rewind is pretty nice even if I only use it once every 100 games.
6) Convenience. No ads and no logins and none of that 3rd party website extra stuff. I can do it all from the client and it's right there. I rarely ever take the time to look up a specific player's stream and log in and wait a 30 second ad out to watch them play. I occasionally spectate interesting looking games or players I know in the client, though.

Oh, perhaps I misunderstood, though. Are you talking about a separate client that's NOT LoL to watch stuff?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 20 2014 06:53 GMT
#831
We're talking about LoL client and if it would work the same way as DotaTV.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
August 20 2014 06:53 GMT
#832
On August 20 2014 15:41 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 14:58 GolemMadness wrote:
Who's going to spectate through a client instead of watching someone's stream...?

I do/would, for multiple reasons:

1) I like being able to control the camera and look at things that are going on outside of one player's perspective.
2) Sometimes I just wanna watch a game instead of listening to qtpie talk about why "MF's ult is completely useless".
3) Being able to check gold/CS/items/hp/levels when I want to is important to me.
4) Seeing both teams at the same time is quite nice for studying timings (mainly for junglers but I mean it's always more fun to watch a game where you know what's happening on both sides IMO).
5) Pause/rewind is pretty nice even if I only use it once every 100 games.
6) Convenience. No ads and no logins and none of that 3rd party website extra stuff. I can do it all from the client and it's right there. I rarely ever take the time to look up a specific player's stream and log in and wait a 30 second ad out to watch them play. I occasionally spectate interesting looking games or players I know in the client, though.

Oh, perhaps I misunderstood, though. Are you talking about a separate client that's NOT LoL to watch stuff?

I'd like to echo these sentiments. Having an in client spectator mode is really convenient and I find it a great addition. If anything it should be expanded. A couple more reasons:

Sometimes you want a league fix, but you just got smashed in a ranked game and don't feel like playing. Sit back and watch some games right there.

Perfect quality with no annoying lag. Very important as an Australian with our terrible internet.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 20 2014 06:59 GMT
#833
On August 20 2014 10:36 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 05:24 krndandaman wrote:
anyone know how increasing MMR works?

on my NA account I just had to win a few in a row to make my MMR 'good' if it was bad.
on KR the account I'm using had "meh" MMR and I've had around 80% win ratio since then.

Right now I've won 15 of my last 20 but my MMR gains are still pretty shitty. It's around +16/-20. What gives?

If you're going by op.gg, and this is if I'm understanding i correctly, it estimates your MMR, then estimates your opponents MMR. Then it compares the scores and gives you an MMR relative to your opponents instead of and MMR relative to the entire ladder. Therefore, if your overall MMR improves, but the skill of your opponents remains the same relative to yourself, you won't see as big a jump.

There's no real way to see your MMR aside from having a friend from Riot tell you. Every other service is just an estimation based on their best guess at the MMR algorithm which takes into account the people you're queued against. It's most likely just a guess.

Basically yeah, you can have 10000000000000 MMR but if you queue into a game that has four 200 MMR players on your team and five 250 players on their team, these services will estimate you around 200-250 MMR. It's not the most accurate assessment. That's the point in it being invisible, though.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 20 2014 07:00 GMT
#834
On August 20 2014 15:53 739 wrote:
We're talking about LoL client and if it would work the same way as DotaTV.

Also yeah for those of us who are monogamous MOBA players, what's the difference between LoL client spectate and DotaTV?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 20 2014 07:02 GMT
#835
On August 20 2014 16:00 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 15:53 739 wrote:
We're talking about LoL client and if it would work the same way as DotaTV.

Also yeah for those of us who are monogamous MOBA players, what's the difference between LoL client spectate and DotaTV?

There is no spectator chat when you're spectating with other people + you can spectate one of 5 games that are listed on clients main page or people that you have on your friends list. In DotA you can search anyone that is online and is currently playing and spectate it.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
August 20 2014 07:17 GMT
#836
The actual spectating part of DotA/LoL are mechanically very similar, the biggest problem with LoL's implementation is the fact that you can't queue or be invited to a party while spectating.
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
August 20 2014 07:58 GMT
#837


True lol show with CLG (now with subs)
Porouscloud - NA LoL
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 08:32:55
August 20 2014 08:07 GMT
#838
On August 20 2014 16:58 Amui wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNEMvvjjV2A

True lol show with CLG (now with subs)

I'm right in the middle of the video and damn, this is so good :D

Also lol, Seraph getting sad that they compared his nidalee to HotshotGG and ask not to do it, haha.

Also that party thing :

DOUBLELIFT WAS IN A BAD MOOD SO HE SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF ONGOING PARTY AND PLAYED SOLO QUEUE, ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLL : "I WAS ON ELEVEN LOSE STREAK, I HAD TO BREAK IT"

Damn, even Doublelift tilts.

Also Captain Jack jokes from Doublelift are quality :D
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 20 2014 08:21 GMT
#839
On August 20 2014 12:18 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 11:38 kongoline wrote:
there seems to be female version of montecristo on summoners insight right now, im impressed how much she knows

She's one of the English casters for LPL and apparently does work at gosugamers it seems.

There's English cast for the LPL? ôo Where? I always watched the Chinese stream and although hype, I didn't understand a thing.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 20 2014 09:03 GMT
#840
Damn, I didn't even recognise Chobra with the glasses.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
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