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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 20 2014 10:13 GMT
#841
On August 14 2014 21:14 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 21:05 739 wrote:
On August 14 2014 21:03 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
So yeah I'm one of the top 100 MF players in the world according to lolskill and I'm on the first page for NA...

http://www.lolskill.net/top?filterChampion=21&filterRealm=NA

Damn, this KDA, so, so bad :D

Yeah, tell me when you get top10 on a champion. Like I have.

It's just NA, but...

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
August 20 2014 11:10 GMT
#842
On August 20 2014 10:23 LightningStrike wrote:
How do you guys get out of losing streaks in ranked? I having a hard time trying to get out of one after failing my promos for Silver 1 and now in Silver 3 0 LP :|


Step 1) stop playing. You're almost certainly on tilt. Playing without analyzing reinforces bad habits and bad play in addition to the losses the bad play causes. If you're taking day long breaks and still in a losing streak then stop and analyze every game, win or loss find at least 10 mistakes (there will be more, and I don't mean stuff like "I CSed poorly") and focus on not making them. When you spell it out simply it's pretty obvious. Focus on getting better and don't play when you're doing bad.

It really boils down to that kind of simple thing. You're not a professional, you aren't forced to queue up again.

If you still can't get better/snap your streak then next step is to have other, better players evaluate your games. They will find mistakes that you don't. It's why they're better players.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 20 2014 11:18 GMT
#843
http://clgaming.net/live/74674-fakerlivestream

BTW this FAQ says it's legal Twitch partner approved stream. Mhm?
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 12:13:46
August 20 2014 12:13 GMT
#844
On August 20 2014 20:18 739 wrote:
http://clgaming.net/live/74674-fakerlivestream

BTW this FAQ says it's legal Twitch partner approved stream. Mhm?

I think it's bullshit. If I could, I'd re-stream it on principle.

On August 20 2014 17:21 Alaric wrote:
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On August 20 2014 12:18 Gahlo wrote:
On August 20 2014 11:38 kongoline wrote:
there seems to be female version of montecristo on summoners insight right now, im impressed how much she knows

She's one of the English casters for LPL and apparently does work at gosugamers it seems.

There's English cast for the LPL? ôo Where? I always watched the Chinese stream and although hype, I didn't understand a thing.

http://www.twitch.tv/lplen

On August 20 2014 15:59 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
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On August 20 2014 10:36 Gahlo wrote:
On August 20 2014 05:24 krndandaman wrote:
anyone know how increasing MMR works?

on my NA account I just had to win a few in a row to make my MMR 'good' if it was bad.
on KR the account I'm using had "meh" MMR and I've had around 80% win ratio since then.

Right now I've won 15 of my last 20 but my MMR gains are still pretty shitty. It's around +16/-20. What gives?

If you're going by op.gg, and this is if I'm understanding i correctly, it estimates your MMR, then estimates your opponents MMR. Then it compares the scores and gives you an MMR relative to your opponents instead of and MMR relative to the entire ladder. Therefore, if your overall MMR improves, but the skill of your opponents remains the same relative to yourself, you won't see as big a jump.

There's no real way to see your MMR aside from having a friend from Riot tell you. Every other service is just an estimation based on their best guess at the MMR algorithm which takes into account the people you're queued against. It's most likely just a guess.

Basically yeah, you can have 10000000000000 MMR but if you queue into a game that has four 200 MMR players on your team and five 250 players on their team, these services will estimate you around 200-250 MMR. It's not the most accurate assessment. That's the point in it being invisible, though.

That's why I said "estimates" a billion times.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 20 2014 12:29 GMT
#845
Gnar
Mini Gnar base attack damage increased to 48 from 45
Mega Gnar base attack damage increased to 52 from 49
Boomerang Throw (Mini Q) [has a few small, non tool tip changes. Take these with a grain of salt]

Missile Speed increased to 1400 from 1000
Width increased to 60 from 45.
Returning Q width increased to 75 from 70
Returning Q missile speed increased to 2600 from 2400

Boulder Toss (Mega Q) [has a few small, non tool tip changes. Take these with a grain of salt]

Missile Speed increased to 2100 from 2000
Width increased to 90 from 80

Hyper (Mini W) maximum damage vs monsters increased 100/150/200/250/300 from 75/125/175/225/275.
GNAR! (R) bonus AD ratio increased to .5 from .2
GNAR! (R) now has AP scaling of .5 up from 0.


Dem Gnar buffs.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 20 2014 12:33 GMT
#846
I chuckled when I first read the Q changes and saw "small" changes.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 12:34:56
August 20 2014 12:33 GMT
#847
TL;DR: boomerang goes crazy angles if you hit someone close to you and move a bit to the side while it's decelerating. Now it'll decelerate slower at first (it'll lose speed faster I think? So at long range it'll take the same time) so it has more time to "anticipate" where you'll be and be easier to catch. It also has a bigger hitbox when coming back so it doesn't just graze you.

Thank for LPL english stream. <3
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 20 2014 12:35 GMT
#848
I have a stupid question about Gnar. When you're playing in little form and you hit that 100 and you become changing into Mega Gnar, is there a way to instantly evolve into Mega form or you just have to wait a bit of time? If yes - what the hell u click.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 20 2014 12:38 GMT
#849
Casting any spell will change you to Mega Gnar when the bar is full, with the exception of Hop (it'll basically be Crunch, 'cept if you land on top of someone you'll still get the additional bounce, and you'll only transform during said bounce).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 20 2014 12:42 GMT
#850
--- Nuked ---
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 20 2014 12:44 GMT
#851
On August 20 2014 21:42 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 20:18 739 wrote:
http://clgaming.net/live/74674-fakerlivestream

BTW this FAQ says it's legal Twitch partner approved stream. Mhm?


wat, so basically a guy makes money off just re-streaming faker games?

imagine he makes enough to make a living off that. just turn on faker games = free money.

could probably make a program that does it for you 24/7 tbh.

Yeah, it's pretty disgusting if you ask me.
OhTwoMise
Profile Joined September 2012
United States164 Posts
August 20 2014 12:47 GMT
#852
Ashe has never been as weak as people would have you believe. I don't know how strong she is now relative to the past, but she's always suffered from having strengths and weaknesses that line up poorly with standard solo queue play. Even aside from her obvious mobility issues and lack of burst, she just plays in a way that is often polar opposite to the more popular carries. She has no one-item timing or dueling capability. Her midgame timings are largely based on other people--essentially whether either her team is strong enough to bully their way into good arrows or whether the other team's positioning is bad enough to give them otherwise. Her ability to actually fight is not all that great (although it's not as bad as a lot of people think it is), but she has arguably the best hard initiate in the game AND Hawkshot, so she really shouldn't be taking even fights anyway.

She functions in a lot of ways like a poor man's Caitlyn with the trade-off being Arrow (and to a lesser extent Volley + Frost Shot): solid laning, increased importance of positioning, low damage, weird item timings, team-based midgame (unless snowballing), crappy dueling, great siege, good zone control. Caitlyn just happens to stomp most lanes hard enough that she can ignore her strategic quirks in solo queue.

I also find that most people don't shoot enough Arrows. They save it to self-peel or are scared of missing or hitting the wrong target. If you don't hit the Arrow you're looking for, you just don't follow it. That's why it's so good; you can shoot it from far enough away that you don't have to commit if you don't get exactly the fight you wanted. Most other initiates put someone in range to get destroyed if they're wrong.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 20 2014 12:47 GMT
#853
On August 20 2014 21:38 Alaric wrote:
Casting any spell will change you to Mega Gnar when the bar is full, with the exception of Hop (it'll basically be Crunch, 'cept if you land on top of someone you'll still get the additional bounce, and you'll only transform during said bounce).

Thanks for the answer. So that's how it works, because I was always fucking up that Hop (E) thing, I was using it while being Mini form, hoping onto a creep and still bouncing on top of it, landing behind the enemy....

On August 20 2014 21:44 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 21:42 krndandaman wrote:
On August 20 2014 20:18 739 wrote:
http://clgaming.net/live/74674-fakerlivestream

BTW this FAQ says it's legal Twitch partner approved stream. Mhm?


wat, so basically a guy makes money off just re-streaming faker games?

imagine he makes enough to make a living off that. just turn on faker games = free money.

could probably make a program that does it for you 24/7 tbh.

Yeah, it's pretty disgusting if you ask me.

It's a pretty but shady business to be honest. I guess that's still illegal and I'm wondering when this stream will disappear from livestream list.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 12:52:08
August 20 2014 12:51 GMT
#854
7.4k ip for flat hp seals wtf is this shit so expensive ......
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 20 2014 13:02 GMT
#855
On August 20 2014 21:47 739 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 21:38 Alaric wrote:
Casting any spell will change you to Mega Gnar when the bar is full, with the exception of Hop (it'll basically be Crunch, 'cept if you land on top of someone you'll still get the additional bounce, and you'll only transform during said bounce).

Thanks for the answer. So that's how it works, because I was always fucking up that Hop (E) thing, I was using it while being Mini form, hoping onto a creep and still bouncing on top of it, landing behind the enemy....

Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 21:44 Gahlo wrote:
On August 20 2014 21:42 krndandaman wrote:
On August 20 2014 20:18 739 wrote:
http://clgaming.net/live/74674-fakerlivestream

BTW this FAQ says it's legal Twitch partner approved stream. Mhm?


wat, so basically a guy makes money off just re-streaming faker games?

imagine he makes enough to make a living off that. just turn on faker games = free money.

could probably make a program that does it for you 24/7 tbh.

Yeah, it's pretty disgusting if you ask me.

It's a pretty but shady business to be honest. I guess that's still illegal and I'm wondering when this stream will disappear from livestream list.

I've reported it, now all that's left is to wait.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 20 2014 13:05 GMT
#856
On August 20 2014 19:13 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 21:14 Scip wrote:
On August 14 2014 21:05 739 wrote:
On August 14 2014 21:03 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
So yeah I'm one of the top 100 MF players in the world according to lolskill and I'm on the first page for NA...

http://www.lolskill.net/top?filterChampion=21&filterRealm=NA

Damn, this KDA, so, so bad :D

Yeah, tell me when you get top10 on a champion. Like I have.

It's just NA, but...

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Sorry, I will specify that I mean the world next time
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
August 20 2014 13:06 GMT
#857
i don't get it, do you guys want to live in a world where there isn't an easy one click way to spectate faker's solo queue games?

are you just mad that you didn't think of it first?
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 20 2014 13:14 GMT
#858
On August 20 2014 21:47 OhTwoMise wrote:
Ashe has never been as weak as people would have you believe. I don't know how strong she is now relative to the past, but she's always suffered from having strengths and weaknesses that line up poorly with standard solo queue play. Even aside from her obvious mobility issues and lack of burst, she just plays in a way that is often polar opposite to the more popular carries. She has no one-item timing or dueling capability. Her midgame timings are largely based on other people--essentially whether either her team is strong enough to bully their way into good arrows or whether the other team's positioning is bad enough to give them otherwise. Her ability to actually fight is not all that great (although it's not as bad as a lot of people think it is), but she has arguably the best hard initiate in the game AND Hawkshot, so she really shouldn't be taking even fights anyway.

She functions in a lot of ways like a poor man's Caitlyn with the trade-off being Arrow (and to a lesser extent Volley + Frost Shot): solid laning, increased importance of positioning, low damage, weird item timings, team-based midgame (unless snowballing), crappy dueling, great siege, good zone control. Caitlyn just happens to stomp most lanes hard enough that she can ignore her strategic quirks in solo queue.

I also find that most people don't shoot enough Arrows. They save it to self-peel or are scared of missing or hitting the wrong target. If you don't hit the Arrow you're looking for, you just don't follow it. That's why it's so good; you can shoot it from far enough away that you don't have to commit if you don't get exactly the fight you wanted. Most other initiates put someone in range to get destroyed if they're wrong.

Well, to be honest, if you miss an arrow in higher levels of play, you probably lose all map control for the length of the cooldown. Most teams also won't get caught out by it unless it's a coordinated 5 man out of vision kind of thing anyway. I don't think Ashe should be your initiation. Arrow is a get out of jail free card and should be used as such. The only times I would blow Arrow before a fight is if there's a huge mistake made by the enemy team like one person getting caught out, a fnatic brush that my team has vision on or if I have some huge burst combo followup from my team. Most teams will respect Arrow and that alone is a good reason to save it. If they don't, they probably die. Outside of lane I think the threat of Arrow is actually stronger than the Arrow itself. In lane it's a great gank setup though and using it liberally when a jungler is around is a good idea.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 20 2014 13:15 GMT
#859
On August 20 2014 22:05 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 19:13 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On August 14 2014 21:14 Scip wrote:
On August 14 2014 21:05 739 wrote:
On August 14 2014 21:03 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
So yeah I'm one of the top 100 MF players in the world according to lolskill and I'm on the first page for NA...

http://www.lolskill.net/top?filterChampion=21&filterRealm=NA

Damn, this KDA, so, so bad :D

Yeah, tell me when you get top10 on a champion. Like I have.

It's just NA, but...

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Sorry, I will specify that I mean the world next time
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Fine, gimme a week.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 20 2014 13:35 GMT
#860
My frustration about Ashe on low-mid plat is that sometimes I land it on a (say) Mundo and my team charges in anyway.....

Sigh. Shits happen and I can't guarantee to land it on the right target every time. At least use common sense.
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