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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 20 2014 13:40 GMT
#861
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chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
August 20 2014 13:52 GMT
#862
is he taking away from faker's income in some tangible way?
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 13:59:01
August 20 2014 13:55 GMT
#863
why would you buff a new champ after 2 weeks of play.

He has what? 43% winrate after 2 weeks?
If he had a 50% winrate at release, he would be completely broken.














On August 20 2014 22:52 chalice wrote:
is he taking away from faker's income in some tangible way?





he is a leech that doesnt contribute anything, just wants to leech some money from fakers fame.
Its a personal thing, i dont like leeches like that.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 20 2014 14:03 GMT
#864
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 14:08:04
August 20 2014 14:07 GMT
#865
On August 20 2014 23:03 krndandaman wrote:
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On August 20 2014 22:52 chalice wrote:
is he taking away from faker's income in some tangible way?


that doesn't matter.

by your logic I should be able to copy my older brother's research paper from college and use it as my own.

cause hey, as long as it doesn't directly affect the person I'm stealing from it's okay right?

If you submit it to the professor while fully acknowledging that the paper was written by your brother, then yes it is fine.

The crime in copying the paper is fraudulently trying to pass it off as your own.
Freeeeeeedom
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 20 2014 14:11 GMT
#866
I'll produce some basic statistics regarding Gnar tonight or tomorrow.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 20 2014 14:13 GMT
#867
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chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
August 20 2014 14:23 GMT
#868
the line is drawn at honesty, you are a dumbass.

User was warned for this post
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 14:34:29
August 20 2014 14:26 GMT
#869
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chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 14:30:52
August 20 2014 14:28 GMT
#870
i don't give a fuck why something is or isn't allowed, i'm telling you why you are wrong.

if you think rules are what you should base your moral stances on you should stop thinking as soon as possible.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 14:46:39
August 20 2014 14:45 GMT
#871
On August 20 2014 23:13 krndandaman wrote:
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On August 20 2014 23:07 cLutZ wrote:
On August 20 2014 23:03 krndandaman wrote:
On August 20 2014 22:52 chalice wrote:
is he taking away from faker's income in some tangible way?


that doesn't matter.

by your logic I should be able to copy my older brother's research paper from college and use it as my own.

cause hey, as long as it doesn't directly affect the person I'm stealing from it's okay right?

If you submit it to the professor while fully acknowledging that the paper was written by your brother, then yes it is fine.

The crime in copying the paper is fraudulently trying to pass it off as your own.


and why is that a crime? does it affect my brother in some tangible way? what if it wasn't my brother and it was some dude I got it off the internet? what then?

so I can "earn" my grade? can't that be said for "earning" your money? where is the line drawn?

what he's doing may be legal according to twitch but it's fucking scumbaggy if you ask me.

In the case of academic dishonesty, the injured party is not (sometimes, but not always) the person you copied from. It is the institution has now falsely accredited you based on your fraud that is injured. This then dilutes the value of that accreditation, hurting those who procured it honestly in the past, and the future.

So yes, the line is honesty.
Freeeeeeedom
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 20 2014 14:51 GMT
#872
On August 20 2014 22:55 LaNague wrote:
why would you buff a new champ after 2 weeks of play.

He has what? 43% winrate after 2 weeks?
If he had a 50% winrate at release, he would be completely broken.














Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 22:52 chalice wrote:
is he taking away from faker's income in some tangible way?





he is a leech that doesnt contribute anything, just wants to leech some money from fakers fame.
Its a personal thing, i dont like leeches like that.


Isn't that the whole accounting industry?
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
August 20 2014 14:51 GMT
#873
On August 20 2014 22:40 krndandaman wrote:
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On August 20 2014 22:06 chalice wrote:
i don't get it, do you guys want to live in a world where there isn't an easy one click way to spectate faker's solo queue games?

are you just mad that you didn't think of it first?


you're totally missing the point.

sure it's nice putting up a stream so you don't have to personally go on op.gg and open a .bat file to watch faker's games, but trying to make money off it is shameless at best.

he's not even pretending it isn't for profit.

i cant do that i always get bugsplat ;/
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 20 2014 14:51 GMT
#874
On August 20 2014 23:28 chalice wrote:
i don't give a fuck why something is or isn't allowed, i'm telling you why you are wrong.

if you think rules are what you should base your moral stances on you should stop thinking as soon as possible.

rules and moral stances go hand in hand more often than not
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
August 20 2014 14:52 GMT
#875
On August 20 2014 23:51 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 23:28 chalice wrote:
i don't give a fuck why something is or isn't allowed, i'm telling you why you are wrong.

if you think rules are what you should base your moral stances on you should stop thinking as soon as possible.

rules and moral stances go hand in hand more often than not

you should do more research into retarded rules.

User was warned for this post
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 20 2014 14:54 GMT
#876
So I decided to check out doyou TV out of curiosity, namei has 197,922 viewers on his stream wow no wonder I hear about these streamers making more than full time pros in China, for the sake of comparison the top hearthstone streamer (idk who he is but he's on iG) has 123,128, ZSMJ has 121,830 and YG's mid laner who is second on LoL has 27,081. I know it's a bit of a no shit given that it's China but still surprised me lol.
Glorious SEA doto
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
August 20 2014 14:57 GMT
#877
On August 20 2014 23:51 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 22:55 LaNague wrote:
why would you buff a new champ after 2 weeks of play.

He has what? 43% winrate after 2 weeks?
If he had a 50% winrate at release, he would be completely broken.














On August 20 2014 22:52 chalice wrote:
is he taking away from faker's income in some tangible way?





he is a leech that doesnt contribute anything, just wants to leech some money from fakers fame.
Its a personal thing, i dont like leeches like that.


Isn't that the whole accounting industry?


Kind of a sidenote, but accounting is actually pretty important and pretty tedious. Think of how big a business is, then think how you have to convert every goddamn asset or transaction done into some monetary value and make sure that is all matches up across a bajillion documents that are in not quite the same format. Not an accountant, but I've spent enough time digging through financials at my internship to know it kind of sucks (I mean, I just want an excel sheet with your info, stop sending me these goddamn PDF's that I have to manually convert).

If Faker knows the guy is streaming his games and doesn't care, who cares? It's the same thing as a guy who sells t-shirts or pictures of some famous celebrity to fans.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 20 2014 15:00 GMT
#878
On August 20 2014 23:54 Fusilero wrote:
So I decided to check out doyou TV out of curiosity, namei has 197,922 viewers on his stream wow no wonder I hear about these streamers making more than full time pros in China, for the sake of comparison the top hearthstone streamer (idk who he is but he's on iG) has 123,128, ZSMJ has 121,830 and YG's mid laner who is second on LoL has 27,081. I know it's a bit of a no shit given that it's China but still surprised me lol.

The accepted view is that Douyu numbers are heavily inflated (last number I remember is x4).
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 20 2014 15:01 GMT
#879
On August 21 2014 00:00 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 23:54 Fusilero wrote:
So I decided to check out doyou TV out of curiosity, namei has 197,922 viewers on his stream wow no wonder I hear about these streamers making more than full time pros in China, for the sake of comparison the top hearthstone streamer (idk who he is but he's on iG) has 123,128, ZSMJ has 121,830 and YG's mid laner who is second on LoL has 27,081. I know it's a bit of a no shit given that it's China but still surprised me lol.

The accepted view is that Douyu numbers are heavily inflated (last number I remember is x4).

Huh didn't know that, how is it inflated?
Glorious SEA doto
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 20 2014 15:07 GMT
#880
On August 20 2014 23:57 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 23:51 Numy wrote:
On August 20 2014 22:55 LaNague wrote:
why would you buff a new champ after 2 weeks of play.

He has what? 43% winrate after 2 weeks?
If he had a 50% winrate at release, he would be completely broken.














On August 20 2014 22:52 chalice wrote:
is he taking away from faker's income in some tangible way?





he is a leech that doesnt contribute anything, just wants to leech some money from fakers fame.
Its a personal thing, i dont like leeches like that.


Isn't that the whole accounting industry?


Kind of a sidenote, but accounting is actually pretty important and pretty tedious. Think of how big a business is, then think how you have to convert every goddamn asset or transaction done into some monetary value and make sure that is all matches up across a bajillion documents that are in not quite the same format. Not an accountant, but I've spent enough time digging through financials at my internship to know it kind of sucks (I mean, I just want an excel sheet with your info, stop sending me these goddamn PDF's that I have to manually convert).

If Faker knows the guy is streaming his games and doesn't care, who cares? It's the same thing as a guy who sells t-shirts or pictures of some famous celebrity to fans.


Haha I know my mom runs the accounting for dads business and I had to fill in for a few weeks. I was just making a joke. It's needed to make sure everything runs smoothly but at the end of the day you aren't actually producing any content. Much like how the streaming faker is needed for the world but isn't producing anything on it's own :D

Does anyone know if the playoffs is on Gnar patch?
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