• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 19:15
CET 01:15
KST 09:15
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2
Community News
BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion5Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)16Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 105
StarCraft 2
General
Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
SC2 AI Tournament 2026 SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
Fantasy's Q&A video Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1166 users

[Patch 4.12] RIP Lucian General Discussion - Page 60

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 58 59 60 61 62 86 Next
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
July 25 2014 00:44 GMT
#1181
So, odds of NA LCS players picking Shen this weekend?

Also, Mecha Aatrox and Mecha Mal are available for purchase on live servers(I didn't see anyone mention it).
Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
July 25 2014 00:45 GMT
#1182
On July 25 2014 09:30 Crusnik wrote:
I guess as an anti-carry/melee he's good, but it's still a really passive lane for the most part, which is why I don't understand why you pick it over say, Ryze, who scales comparably, but wins, or Shen, or also scales well, but again, can win matchups.

Could also be that I got tired of being a bitch in lane and just want to go aggro when I feel like I can to punish or all-in if I get a lead. Nasus can't really do that, then again, Ryze and Shen can't really all-in either, but meh.


I don't play Nasus really but I have seen enough of Sirhcez's stream to know he survives basically every matchup by using teleport to back early for defensive items and just stacking the Q. Its an extreme example but just yesterday he got 600 stacks by 20 minutes and he often has 400+ against even the toughest matchups. At 300+ that early in the game wither becomes a death sentence especially with ganks and the lane rolls from there. I understand your frustration in not wanting to Q 100-200 CS every game before going deep though lol.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 25 2014 00:45 GMT
#1183
Would be pretty shocking if any team picks shen.Unless there are 6 top bans don't see that happening.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 25 2014 00:48 GMT
#1184
With so little time to practice with Shen, I think it unlikely, especially this late in the season when games mean so much.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-25 00:54:15
July 25 2014 00:53 GMT
#1185
On July 25 2014 09:40 GolemMadness wrote:
From my experience, a good Tryndamere can beat Nasus. I got stomped pretty hard by Fwii.


A good X can beat a good Y.
in any case trynd is a lot stronger in early lane than nasus is. I just said in terms of 1v1ing later in the game nasus beats pretty much every melee with reasonable gold similarity.
if trynd has like full items with LW maybe its different but even then with thornmail im not sure.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 25 2014 01:05 GMT
#1186
Shen can bully Irelia, Jax and others pretty hard in lane tbh.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-25 01:21:21
July 25 2014 01:21 GMT
#1187
As I see it, I think Shen will get picked in a "protect the Koggles" team comp, and we'd just need to see Gragas (and maybe Mundo or Trist) get banned.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
July 25 2014 01:22 GMT
#1188
On July 25 2014 10:21 Kinie wrote:
As I see it, I think Shen will get picked in a "protect the Koggles" team comp, and we'd just need to see Gragas (and maybe Mundo or Trist) get banned.

Pls, pop Shen on Twitch.
Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
July 25 2014 01:37 GMT
#1189
On July 25 2014 10:22 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 10:21 Kinie wrote:
As I see it, I think Shen will get picked in a "protect the Koggles" team comp, and we'd just need to see Gragas (and maybe Mundo or Trist) get banned.

Pls, pop Shen on Twitch.


With zilean bomb and revive
TrAce/Cpt Jack for president (or both)
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
July 25 2014 01:48 GMT
#1190
I think I said a "protect the Koggles" plan, not "have our only lategame DPS be the Koggles" plan.

Unless you mean have Shen + Twitch be on the same team. Cause that just sounds dirty.
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
July 25 2014 01:58 GMT
#1191
On July 25 2014 10:48 Kinie wrote:
I think I said a "protect the Koggles" plan, not "have our only lategame DPS be the Koggles" plan.

Unless you mean have Shen + Twitch be on the same team. Cause that just sounds dirty.


Shen+zil+lulu+twitch/Rengar, I like to call it the Nuclear Annihilation comp.
Steam: rook492
Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
July 25 2014 02:04 GMT
#1192
Also works with nocturne
TrAce/Cpt Jack for president (or both)
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-25 02:19:33
July 25 2014 02:14 GMT
#1193
I think Shen actually beats a lot of weaker lanes early on, and at the 5-6 item stage he'll beat most champs as well. It's just the midgame timing where he doesn't have the items to push and his %hp healing from Q isn't insane yet where he'll get a bit bullied.

Also mecha or glacial malphite?
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
July 25 2014 02:20 GMT
#1194
Well back in season 3, the top meta basically boiled down to Jax, Renekton, or Shen, with the occasional pick of Riven, Jayce, or Ryze, as I don't think Shyvana's rework had been allowed in time for the Worlds stage.

What's happening so far in season 4 top lane? Shyvana, Renekton, Ryze, Jax, Lulu, and now Gragas. Shen would probably be picked against two, maybe three of those 6, and the remaining 3 (Lulu, Gragas, Ryze) can be either banned or flex picked into mid/support.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
July 25 2014 02:23 GMT
#1195
On July 25 2014 11:20 Kinie wrote:
Well back in season 3, the top meta basically boiled down to Jax, Renekton, or Shen, with the occasional pick of Riven, Jayce, or Ryze, as I don't think Shyvana's rework had been allowed in time for the Worlds stage.

What's happening so far in season 4 top lane? Shyvana, Renekton, Ryze, Jax, Lulu, and now Gragas. Shen would probably be picked against two, maybe three of those 6, and the remaining 3 (Lulu, Gragas, Ryze) can be either banned or flex picked into mid/support.

Shyvana was played in WC3.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
July 25 2014 02:25 GMT
#1196
On July 25 2014 09:05 Sufficiency wrote:
So it looks like in ranked soloQ, blue side only wins 51% now.

Riot changed the matchmaking algorithm and blue side now have higher MMR.

That doesn't make any sense. Why would blue side win rate drop if the better players are now on blue instead of purple?
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
July 25 2014 02:46 GMT
#1197
baron throws
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
July 25 2014 02:47 GMT
#1198
--- Nuked ---
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 25 2014 03:31 GMT
#1199
I'm pretty sure Thoorin would suck his own dick if it was possible so when he said that the Flame interview was some of his best works I took it with a grain of salt, but it's really really good, Flame fan for life starting today.
Carrilord has arrived.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 25 2014 04:23 GMT
#1200
On July 25 2014 11:25 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 09:05 Sufficiency wrote:
So it looks like in ranked soloQ, blue side only wins 51% now.

Riot changed the matchmaking algorithm and blue side now have higher MMR.

That doesn't make any sense. Why would blue side win rate drop if the better players are now on blue instead of purple?


Well I meant to say purple :p
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Prev 1 58 59 60 61 62 86 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL 21
20:00
Non-Korean Championship - D3
Mihu vs eOnzErG
Dewalt vs Sziky
Bonyth vs DuGu
XuanXuan vs eOnzErG
Dewalt vs eOnzErG
ZZZero.O277
LiquipediaDiscussion
AI Arena Tournament
20:00
Swiss - Round 2
Laughngamez YouTube
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
ZZZero.O 277
Shuttle 91
Dota 2
Pyrionflax234
Other Games
tarik_tv18713
gofns11709
summit1g7617
FrodaN3147
crisheroes471
XaKoH 187
KnowMe141
ViBE98
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2407
StarCraft 2
WardiTV680
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 67
• musti20045 35
• Airneanach3
• Kozan
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 14
• RayReign 10
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21319
League of Legends
• Doublelift5742
Other Games
• imaqtpie2088
• Shiphtur180
• tFFMrPink 10
Upcoming Events
All-Star Invitational
2h 45m
MMA vs DongRaeGu
herO vs Solar
Clem vs Reynor
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
9h 45m
OSC
11h 45m
Shameless vs NightMare
YoungYakov vs MaNa
Nicoract vs Jumy
Gerald vs TBD
Creator vs TBD
BSL 21
19h 45m
Bonyth vs Sziky
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs DuGu
Dewalt vs Bonyth
IPSL
19h 45m
Dewalt vs Sziky
Replay Cast
1d 8h
Wardi Open
1d 11h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 16h
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
Big Brain Bouts
5 days
Serral vs TBD
BSL 21
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.