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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
July 25 2014 00:44 GMT
#1181
So, odds of NA LCS players picking Shen this weekend?

Also, Mecha Aatrox and Mecha Mal are available for purchase on live servers(I didn't see anyone mention it).
Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
July 25 2014 00:45 GMT
#1182
On July 25 2014 09:30 Crusnik wrote:
I guess as an anti-carry/melee he's good, but it's still a really passive lane for the most part, which is why I don't understand why you pick it over say, Ryze, who scales comparably, but wins, or Shen, or also scales well, but again, can win matchups.

Could also be that I got tired of being a bitch in lane and just want to go aggro when I feel like I can to punish or all-in if I get a lead. Nasus can't really do that, then again, Ryze and Shen can't really all-in either, but meh.


I don't play Nasus really but I have seen enough of Sirhcez's stream to know he survives basically every matchup by using teleport to back early for defensive items and just stacking the Q. Its an extreme example but just yesterday he got 600 stacks by 20 minutes and he often has 400+ against even the toughest matchups. At 300+ that early in the game wither becomes a death sentence especially with ganks and the lane rolls from there. I understand your frustration in not wanting to Q 100-200 CS every game before going deep though lol.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 25 2014 00:45 GMT
#1183
Would be pretty shocking if any team picks shen.Unless there are 6 top bans don't see that happening.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 25 2014 00:48 GMT
#1184
With so little time to practice with Shen, I think it unlikely, especially this late in the season when games mean so much.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-25 00:54:15
July 25 2014 00:53 GMT
#1185
On July 25 2014 09:40 GolemMadness wrote:
From my experience, a good Tryndamere can beat Nasus. I got stomped pretty hard by Fwii.


A good X can beat a good Y.
in any case trynd is a lot stronger in early lane than nasus is. I just said in terms of 1v1ing later in the game nasus beats pretty much every melee with reasonable gold similarity.
if trynd has like full items with LW maybe its different but even then with thornmail im not sure.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 25 2014 01:05 GMT
#1186
Shen can bully Irelia, Jax and others pretty hard in lane tbh.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-25 01:21:21
July 25 2014 01:21 GMT
#1187
As I see it, I think Shen will get picked in a "protect the Koggles" team comp, and we'd just need to see Gragas (and maybe Mundo or Trist) get banned.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35143 Posts
July 25 2014 01:22 GMT
#1188
On July 25 2014 10:21 Kinie wrote:
As I see it, I think Shen will get picked in a "protect the Koggles" team comp, and we'd just need to see Gragas (and maybe Mundo or Trist) get banned.

Pls, pop Shen on Twitch.
Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
July 25 2014 01:37 GMT
#1189
On July 25 2014 10:22 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 10:21 Kinie wrote:
As I see it, I think Shen will get picked in a "protect the Koggles" team comp, and we'd just need to see Gragas (and maybe Mundo or Trist) get banned.

Pls, pop Shen on Twitch.


With zilean bomb and revive
TrAce/Cpt Jack for president (or both)
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
July 25 2014 01:48 GMT
#1190
I think I said a "protect the Koggles" plan, not "have our only lategame DPS be the Koggles" plan.

Unless you mean have Shen + Twitch be on the same team. Cause that just sounds dirty.
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
July 25 2014 01:58 GMT
#1191
On July 25 2014 10:48 Kinie wrote:
I think I said a "protect the Koggles" plan, not "have our only lategame DPS be the Koggles" plan.

Unless you mean have Shen + Twitch be on the same team. Cause that just sounds dirty.


Shen+zil+lulu+twitch/Rengar, I like to call it the Nuclear Annihilation comp.
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Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
July 25 2014 02:04 GMT
#1192
Also works with nocturne
TrAce/Cpt Jack for president (or both)
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-25 02:19:33
July 25 2014 02:14 GMT
#1193
I think Shen actually beats a lot of weaker lanes early on, and at the 5-6 item stage he'll beat most champs as well. It's just the midgame timing where he doesn't have the items to push and his %hp healing from Q isn't insane yet where he'll get a bit bullied.

Also mecha or glacial malphite?
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
July 25 2014 02:20 GMT
#1194
Well back in season 3, the top meta basically boiled down to Jax, Renekton, or Shen, with the occasional pick of Riven, Jayce, or Ryze, as I don't think Shyvana's rework had been allowed in time for the Worlds stage.

What's happening so far in season 4 top lane? Shyvana, Renekton, Ryze, Jax, Lulu, and now Gragas. Shen would probably be picked against two, maybe three of those 6, and the remaining 3 (Lulu, Gragas, Ryze) can be either banned or flex picked into mid/support.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35143 Posts
July 25 2014 02:23 GMT
#1195
On July 25 2014 11:20 Kinie wrote:
Well back in season 3, the top meta basically boiled down to Jax, Renekton, or Shen, with the occasional pick of Riven, Jayce, or Ryze, as I don't think Shyvana's rework had been allowed in time for the Worlds stage.

What's happening so far in season 4 top lane? Shyvana, Renekton, Ryze, Jax, Lulu, and now Gragas. Shen would probably be picked against two, maybe three of those 6, and the remaining 3 (Lulu, Gragas, Ryze) can be either banned or flex picked into mid/support.

Shyvana was played in WC3.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
July 25 2014 02:25 GMT
#1196
On July 25 2014 09:05 Sufficiency wrote:
So it looks like in ranked soloQ, blue side only wins 51% now.

Riot changed the matchmaking algorithm and blue side now have higher MMR.

That doesn't make any sense. Why would blue side win rate drop if the better players are now on blue instead of purple?
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
July 25 2014 02:46 GMT
#1197
baron throws
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
July 25 2014 02:47 GMT
#1198
--- Nuked ---
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 25 2014 03:31 GMT
#1199
I'm pretty sure Thoorin would suck his own dick if it was possible so when he said that the Flame interview was some of his best works I took it with a grain of salt, but it's really really good, Flame fan for life starting today.
Carrilord has arrived.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 25 2014 04:23 GMT
#1200
On July 25 2014 11:25 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 09:05 Sufficiency wrote:
So it looks like in ranked soloQ, blue side only wins 51% now.

Riot changed the matchmaking algorithm and blue side now have higher MMR.

That doesn't make any sense. Why would blue side win rate drop if the better players are now on blue instead of purple?


Well I meant to say purple :p
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