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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
July 24 2014 20:06 GMT
#1161
On July 25 2014 04:47 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 04:45 cLutZ wrote:
On July 25 2014 04:33 xes wrote:
At least this dick contest is between D1s instead of standard Bronze 3 theorycrafting

Hecarim support is secret op. Also Skarner mid. Don't tell anyone.

Yeah i been having alot of success with mobos 4pd triforce support hecarim too tbh

Vaporized?
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
July 24 2014 20:10 GMT
#1162
On July 25 2014 00:43 JimmiC wrote:
On the Nasus vs Teemo Discussion. I'm high gold (I've actually been the promised plat land, yeah you can drop =-(

I got counter picked by teemo tons. And I found most of the time I would crush.

9/21/0 red ad yellow armor blue mr quints mr (thanks slayer I used to use life steal quints and argued it hard but mr better vs teemo and other better choices vs others) I then go cloth 5 pots (need the pots to stay full and take harass, cloth helps you lots early and a lot of teemos even ap will start dorans blade.)

I then take ghost ignite. I know TP is the thing and there are many benifits but it really ups your all in potential which vs teemo is the thing.

I max Q, it's your huge damage and basically what makes you nasus. I see that E might be "safer" but all the farm you get with e will not load your Q which is what you need.

I farm only when my q is up and let him push me to my tower. I often let the early ranged creep die just to not take the harass. Use your pots to stay close to 100% don't wait till you're low to use them, it's just more dangerous and takes away any kill potential.

Ask for gank, it doesn't always happen but as mentioned with your W it's a pretty easy kill since he is pushing, squishy and slowed.

If no gank at level 4 put a second point in w (2 in q 2 in w) be at full health or close 2 it. bait out a blind and turn back like your running when he goes for a ranged creep of yours turn on him and pop ghost and then wither. Even if he flashes keep after him when he's at 50% ignite. If you don't kill oh well but no point saving it since you need both summoners to kill him. Chase him right to edge of tower, if you can kill him but you will die , do it trades are good for you. At the very least he will have to back or be ez for you to farm a bit. Make sure first purchase is cowl and always grab pots.

Just farm safe again until both summoners up. Then rinse and repeat the above. Once you are 11 you can kill him any time you want even under tower while summoners up, and ofter 1v2 or at least get away.

If your first all in fails its ok just tower farm Q, still once u have cowl and 11 hes dead anyways. if you lose tower it kinda sucks but then to put more pressure on you he has to come up even further.

I would always get mercs as my boots, the tenacity helps chasing with shrooms and the mr is nice.


Tenacity doesn't reduce the duration of slows iirc.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
July 24 2014 20:17 GMT
#1163
it does
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-24 20:25:58
July 24 2014 20:23 GMT
#1164
On July 25 2014 04:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 04:33 Slayer91 wrote:
it was very provoked
its not even d1s
just people who claimed to be d1 in the past but arent


at no point did i ever address you before you said i had no idea what i was talking about so that is incorrect


yeah but claiming nasus is bad in teamfights is just retarded
on a side note holy shit i forgot how hard is it to win with marten
we musta been like 20k gold ahead and he just jumps nito their team with ziggs to try to snipe an adc LOL
i was 1v2ing them or at least surviving a 1v2 all game and then we lose at 50 minutes pretty sick

or runs into their jungle and gets both their solo lanes fed
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 24 2014 20:58 GMT
#1165


52 minutes of staring at flame. worth.
liftlift > tsm
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 24 2014 20:58 GMT
#1166
On July 25 2014 05:23 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 04:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 25 2014 04:33 Slayer91 wrote:
it was very provoked
its not even d1s
just people who claimed to be d1 in the past but arent


at no point did i ever address you before you said i had no idea what i was talking about so that is incorrect


yeah but claiming nasus is bad in teamfights is just retarded
on a side note holy shit i forgot how hard is it to win with marten
we musta been like 20k gold ahead and he just jumps nito their team with ziggs to try to snipe an adc LOL
i was 1v2ing them or at least surviving a 1v2 all game and then we lose at 50 minutes pretty sick

or runs into their jungle and gets both their solo lanes fed

I even wrote in chat if you want to win the challenge you have to stop duoing with marten.Teut pls
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 24 2014 21:28 GMT
#1167
Getting "counterpicked" by Nasus as Irelia. Gonna report.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 24 2014 21:40 GMT
#1168
wat that MU is a stomp in nasus' favor. all you need is triforce and mercs to murder her
I come in for the scraps
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 24 2014 22:12 GMT
#1169
--- Nuked ---
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
July 24 2014 22:14 GMT
#1170
On July 25 2014 04:47 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 04:45 cLutZ wrote:
On July 25 2014 04:33 xes wrote:
At least this dick contest is between D1s instead of standard Bronze 3 theorycrafting

Hecarim support is secret op. Also Skarner mid. Don't tell anyone.

Yeah i been having alot of success with mobos 4pd triforce support hecarim too tbh

nah dude, the build is ninja tabi, 4 Zephyr Warmogs now. Zephyr gives more movespeed than PD dawg. how could you forget.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 24 2014 22:16 GMT
#1171
Dunno, he was doing random shit, he attacked minions randomly without killing them and didn't Q either (he actually got 4 cs out of the first 2 waves). He bought sheen after his first back with 0 pots nor wards too (didn't matter since as long as he doesn't Wither before I activate Hiten Style it's really really hard to outdps his passive), and I TP'd bot a bit after 6 for 3 kills (or 4?), the tower and dragon. I lost a bunch of farm because he slow-pushed the entire time and our mid (who died bot) rushed there when he respawned to protect the tower, so he took it all.
I went there without buying because TP was down and the new wave built up pretty big, traded, we both ended up low and I got greedy (ult ready, was waiting for the wave to line-up and Amumu dived me after failing his Q 2-3s before I could heal off the wave so I died and missed ~15 cs total). After that I had triforce+boots while he had Sheen+FH so it didn't matter, item differential too big (didn't check but I think exp was about even).

Feels like Jax, you can get an early advantage (especially if he misplays) but you don't really have the levers to win yourself, it's hard to force errors to exploit, and eventually he autowins.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 24 2014 22:49 GMT
#1172
On July 25 2014 04:47 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 04:45 cLutZ wrote:
On July 25 2014 04:33 xes wrote:
At least this dick contest is between D1s instead of standard Bronze 3 theorycrafting

Hecarim support is secret op. Also Skarner mid. Don't tell anyone.

Yeah i been having alot of success with mobos 4pd triforce support hecarim too tbh

Man, you sacrifice a lot in combat by going mobi over S
swifties.
Freeeeeeedom
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 25 2014 00:05 GMT
#1173
So it looks like in ranked soloQ, blue side only wins 51% now.

Riot changed the matchmaking algorithm and blue side now have higher MMR.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
July 25 2014 00:08 GMT
#1174
My question on the whole Nasus discussion, why pick him at all? I don't see why you would willingly pick an even/losing lane in SoloQ, in 5s/semi-organized play, yeah, sure, he fits a role, but why not pick someone that split pushes better (Jax/Tryn) tanks more (mundo/shyvana) or straight up wins his lane/scales into a great carry/semi-carry (Ryze/lulu/Riven)

I'm a scrub at that high silver/low gold rating, so I'm just curious what the thought process behind picking Nasus is.
Steam: rook492
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-25 00:20:25
July 25 2014 00:17 GMT
#1175
he beats jax and trynd in 1v1 split push, he tanks compareably to mundo/shyv and i don't know why you'd call lulu a "semi carry" when she's basically an AP-support and he rekts people like riven in teamfights

he's basically an anti melee champ

i mean ultimately the 95% of the reason you pick a champ is teamfights+laning phase and nasus is okay in laning phase and strong in teamfights in a lot of comps

interesting thing about nasus v s ryze if you do that guys strat of going flask into chalice and maxing E it actually is really strong against ryze because he's super squishy so he can't eat much E harass and he can't do shit if you push the lane hard enough
you can legit win against ryze and have like 30 cs up on him it's insane
probably good against kennen quinn as well as teemo where he demonstrated it
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 25 2014 00:17 GMT
#1176
On July 25 2014 09:08 Crusnik wrote:
My question on the whole Nasus discussion, why pick him at all? I don't see why you would willingly pick an even/losing lane in SoloQ, in 5s/semi-organized play, yeah, sure, he fits a role, but why not pick someone that split pushes better (Jax/Tryn) tanks more (mundo/shyvana) or straight up wins his lane/scales into a great carry/semi-carry (Ryze/lulu/Riven)

I'm a scrub at that high silver/low gold rating, so I'm just curious what the thought process behind picking Nasus is.


answered your own question, he's highly underrated and people think he is dogshit (heuueue) and then you 1v2 their top/jungler. I only like playing champions that no one plays.
I come in for the scraps
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-25 00:37:41
July 25 2014 00:30 GMT
#1177
I guess as an anti-carry/melee he's good, but it's still a really passive lane for the most part, which is why I don't understand why you pick it over say, Ryze, who scales comparably, but wins, or Shen, or also scales well, but again, can win matchups.

Could also be that I got tired of being a bitch in lane and just want to go aggro when I feel like I can to punish or all-in if I get a lead. Nasus can't really do that, then again, Ryze and Shen can't really all-in either, but meh.

E: Also, wtf is this OGN game from the other day l0l..Was the entire K vs White series hilarious picks or just the first game?
Steam: rook492
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 25 2014 00:38 GMT
#1178
Just because you can't do that doesn't mean the champion can't.Shen is probably last champion that comes to mind to pick if you want to win lane.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 25 2014 00:40 GMT
#1179
From my experience, a good Tryndamere can beat Nasus. I got stomped pretty hard by Fwii.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
July 25 2014 00:41 GMT
#1180
On July 25 2014 09:30 Crusnik wrote:
I guess as an anti-carry/melee he's good, but it's still a really passive lane for the most part, which is why I don't understand why you pick it over say, Ryze, who scales comparably, but wins, or Shen, or also scales well, but again, can win matchups.

Could also be that I got tired of being a bitch in lane and just want to go aggro when I feel like I can to punish or all-in if I get a lead. Nasus can't really do that, then again, Ryze and Shen can't really all-in either, but meh.

E: Also, wtf is this OGN game from the other day l0l..Was the entire K vs White series hilarious picks or just the first game?

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