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[Patch 4.12] RIP Lucian General Discussion - Page 55

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Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4122 Posts
July 24 2014 13:15 GMT
#1081
You might want the LoCi thread for that one.
Still, congrats!
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
July 24 2014 13:42 GMT
#1082
When I see a Nasus I usually take Gangplank, he has very good harass and his W nullifies wither.

Then again, I always take Gangplank.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 24 2014 14:51 GMT
#1083
Every time I see a Nasus I facepalm. I have never seen a Nasus doing well. I think people win with Nasus because they THINK they can win late game so it prevents some premature surrenders.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
July 24 2014 14:53 GMT
#1084
Shouldn't new Lucian shit all over Nasus? With E removing wither and doubletaps Nasus will never get a single auto/Q off and Lucian can just harass Nasus out of lane all day err day.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 24 2014 14:54 GMT
#1085
On July 24 2014 23:53 Mikau wrote:
Shouldn't new Lucian shit all over Nasus? With E removing wither and doubletaps Nasus will never get a single auto/Q off and Lucian can just harass Nasus out of lane all day err day.


Most champions shit on Nasus.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-24 15:00:48
July 24 2014 14:57 GMT
#1086
name one. (other than lucian, not sure how well he does vs nasus but i have never tested it)
gangplank is pretty shit versus nasus unless you want to just farm up.

quinn is a bit hard but quinn shits on anyone so better have sustain, she cant get away easily from ganks, similar to teemo matchup

I have never played a nasus lane and thought "wow I Shouldn't have picked nasus because x champ owns me too hard"

nasus is pretty overrated mid/late game because of his lack of burst and range but he's very strong at least. He's bad against mass ranged champs and thats pretty fotm atm with lulu/ryze/kayles etc top.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21666 Posts
July 24 2014 15:00 GMT
#1087
On July 24 2014 22:13 TyrantPotato wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
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FREEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

Thresh is love. Thresh is life.



Edit: Your right, will put in spoiler.

On topic though, Whenever i see nasus my first pick isn't generally teemo but rather quinn. Blind slightly worse but the harrassment is ridiculous on nasus.

Quinn? Your never going to get away from Wither with her once the cd is low enough Oo
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21666 Posts
July 24 2014 15:01 GMT
#1088
On July 24 2014 23:57 Slayer91 wrote:
name one. (other than lucian, not sure how well he does vs nasus but i have never tested it)
gangplank is pretty shit versus nasus unless you want to just farm up.

quinn is a bit hard but quinn shits on anyone so better have sustain, she cant get away easily from ganks, similar to teemo matchup

I have never played a nasus lane and thought "wow I Shouldn't have picked nasus because x champ owns me too hard"

nasus is pretty overrated mid/late game because of his lack of burst and range but he's very strong at least. He's bad against mass ranged champs and thats pretty fotm atm with lulu/ryze/kayles etc top.

Lucian should do well because he can just remove wither while doing the normal ranged shitting on melee thing.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-24 15:03:39
July 24 2014 15:01 GMT
#1089
I really liked that guys strat of going flask+pots and using E to harass teemo down, but It's a bit suspect, not sure how much damage you can guarantee on him i'll have to try it.

On July 25 2014 00:01 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 23:57 Slayer91 wrote:
name one. (other than lucian, not sure how well he does vs nasus but i have never tested it)
gangplank is pretty shit versus nasus unless you want to just farm up.

quinn is a bit hard but quinn shits on anyone so better have sustain, she cant get away easily from ganks, similar to teemo matchup

I have never played a nasus lane and thought "wow I Shouldn't have picked nasus because x champ owns me too hard"

nasus is pretty overrated mid/late game because of his lack of burst and range but he's very strong at least. He's bad against mass ranged champs and thats pretty fotm atm with lulu/ryze/kayles etc top.

Lucian should do well because he can just remove wither while doing the normal ranged shitting on melee thing.


lucian has pretty meh range and nasus plays every matchup like melee vs ranged.
If you aren't comfortable playing when the enemy is trying to harass you without fighting back you shouldn't be playning nasus

the whole thing is past level 9 maybe a bit later you can outsustain nearly everyone and 1v1 nearly everyone.

the only thing about lucian is he can break your W, but the best thing to do with a gank is to safe it till after he uses it.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 24 2014 15:05 GMT
#1090
On July 24 2014 23:57 Slayer91 wrote:
name one. (other than lucian, not sure how well he does vs nasus but i have never tested it)
gangplank is pretty shit versus nasus unless you want to just farm up.

quinn is a bit hard but quinn shits on anyone so better have sustain, she cant get away easily from ganks, similar to teemo matchup

I have never played a nasus lane and thought "wow I Shouldn't have picked nasus because x champ owns me too hard"

nasus is pretty overrated mid/late game because of his lack of burst and range but he's very strong at least. He's bad against mass ranged champs and thats pretty fotm atm with lulu/ryze/kayles etc top.

Sorry I was referring to Nasus' s mid/late game.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 24 2014 15:08 GMT
#1091
nasus biggest powerspikes are level 11/triforce finish and level 16. the rest is pretty irrelevent. Completing FH/visage/triforce core is also pretty good.
I come in for the scraps
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 24 2014 15:12 GMT
#1092
OK I hate triforce Nasus. I think it is a situational item and one which you can go without (don't you have Q already?).

I've seen many times Nasus (and sometimes Udyr) building triforce against teams with TF/Ashe/Lulu/Janna/etc. And get utterly destroyed. The extra 200 damagr means nothing if you can't even reach the target.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
July 24 2014 15:14 GMT
#1093
On July 25 2014 00:05 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 23:57 Slayer91 wrote:
name one. (other than lucian, not sure how well he does vs nasus but i have never tested it)
gangplank is pretty shit versus nasus unless you want to just farm up.

quinn is a bit hard but quinn shits on anyone so better have sustain, she cant get away easily from ganks, similar to teemo matchup

I have never played a nasus lane and thought "wow I Shouldn't have picked nasus because x champ owns me too hard"

nasus is pretty overrated mid/late game because of his lack of burst and range but he's very strong at least. He's bad against mass ranged champs and thats pretty fotm atm with lulu/ryze/kayles etc top.

Sorry I was referring to Nasus' s mid/late game.


what do you mean by that though?
you maen he gets "kited". thats mostly a teamcomp thing because if 3 guys are chaining CC on you then your team comp doesn't work properly to back you up or you're going too deep.

Trinity is pretty dumb on nasus you don't need it to win 1v1's and nearly always IBG/+CDR+Defenses are more important
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 24 2014 15:16 GMT
#1094
On July 25 2014 00:12 Sufficiency wrote:
OK I hate triforce Nasus. I think it is a situational item and one which you can go without (don't you have Q already?).

I've seen many times Nasus (and sometimes Udyr) building triforce against teams with TF/Ashe/Lulu/Janna/etc. And get utterly destroyed. The extra 200 damagr means nothing if you can't even reach the target.

Well if you picked a melee with no gapclosers into ashe/lulu/zyra I see bigger issues like trying to teamfight.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
July 24 2014 15:18 GMT
#1095
might not be that bad honestly. If you have like amumu you can just have him go in and 1 shot zyra you W the ashe so she does no damage (she's already ashe lol) and then just ezwin
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 24 2014 15:20 GMT
#1096
you shouldnt be trying to teamfight with nasus at any rate. your goal is to make it so 2 or more HAVE to come top to stop you therefore making the game much easier for your team. teamfighting is not how you play nasus unless have already taken top inhib tower.

also take flash, ghost/teleport is shit
I come in for the scraps
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 24 2014 15:22 GMT
#1097
Uh Amumu can't one shot a Zyra. It is really hard even if Amumu builds full AP. He needs to be very fed while Zyra is very behind.

I feel Nasus should build LW as the only damage items and Q tanks. Just my opinion.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
July 24 2014 15:28 GMT
#1098
How did Nasus suddenly "turn" bad ?

He'll always be a crazy manfighter with his kit once he hits 6 and will always be able to survive in lane thanks to his passive as long as you play like a big pussy on legs.
The legend of Darien lives on
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
July 24 2014 15:30 GMT
#1099
On July 24 2014 23:51 Sufficiency wrote:
Every time I see a Nasus I facepalm. I have never seen a Nasus doing well. I think people win with Nasus because they THINK they can win late game so it prevents some premature surrenders.

Lux and Soraka kind of inspire you with what they say.

Lux:
"Focus on the battle."
"I never think about losing."
"We can do this."
"Stay positive."

and her laugh of course does the opposite to the enemy team

Raka:
"Have hope!"
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-24 15:33:23
July 24 2014 15:31 GMT
#1100
On July 25 2014 00:22 Sufficiency wrote:
Uh Amumu can't one shot a Zyra. It is really hard even if Amumu builds full AP. He needs to be very fed while Zyra is very behind.

I feel Nasus should build LW as the only damage items and Q tanks. Just my opinion.


i didnt say amumu is going to one shot zyra
i mean he uses his you know, CC skills to lock down the enemy team adn quickly focus down a squishy with his teams focused fire

also nasus didn't become bad its juts vayneauthority has no idea what he's talking about lol
ghost teleport defintiely insn't shit on nasus. Sometimes you want flash but I think most of the time ghost is way more useful. Offensively flash doesn't do much since you have nothing to follow it up with except Q, and defensively ghost is better over a long period.

only against say jarvan would you take flash, or maybe a really annoying early jungle+top combo.
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