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[Patch 4.12] RIP Lucian General Discussion - Page 55
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Fildun
Netherlands4119 Posts
Still, congrats! | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
Then again, I always take Gangplank. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Mikau
Netherlands1446 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On July 24 2014 23:53 Mikau wrote: Shouldn't new Lucian shit all over Nasus? With E removing wither and doubletaps Nasus will never get a single auto/Q off and Lucian can just harass Nasus out of lane all day err day. Most champions shit on Nasus. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
gangplank is pretty shit versus nasus unless you want to just farm up. quinn is a bit hard but quinn shits on anyone so better have sustain, she cant get away easily from ganks, similar to teemo matchup I have never played a nasus lane and thought "wow I Shouldn't have picked nasus because x champ owns me too hard" nasus is pretty overrated mid/late game because of his lack of burst and range but he's very strong at least. He's bad against mass ranged champs and thats pretty fotm atm with lulu/ryze/kayles etc top. | ||
Gorsameth
Netherlands21351 Posts
On July 24 2014 22:13 TyrantPotato wrote: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/ap5c4/107a8b6427.jpg) FREEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM Thresh is love. Thresh is life. Edit: Your right, will put in spoiler. On topic though, Whenever i see nasus my first pick isn't generally teemo but rather quinn. Blind slightly worse but the harrassment is ridiculous on nasus. Quinn? Your never going to get away from Wither with her once the cd is low enough Oo | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21351 Posts
On July 24 2014 23:57 Slayer91 wrote: name one. (other than lucian, not sure how well he does vs nasus but i have never tested it) gangplank is pretty shit versus nasus unless you want to just farm up. quinn is a bit hard but quinn shits on anyone so better have sustain, she cant get away easily from ganks, similar to teemo matchup I have never played a nasus lane and thought "wow I Shouldn't have picked nasus because x champ owns me too hard" nasus is pretty overrated mid/late game because of his lack of burst and range but he's very strong at least. He's bad against mass ranged champs and thats pretty fotm atm with lulu/ryze/kayles etc top. Lucian should do well because he can just remove wither while doing the normal ranged shitting on melee thing. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On July 25 2014 00:01 Gorsameth wrote: Lucian should do well because he can just remove wither while doing the normal ranged shitting on melee thing. lucian has pretty meh range and nasus plays every matchup like melee vs ranged. If you aren't comfortable playing when the enemy is trying to harass you without fighting back you shouldn't be playning nasus the whole thing is past level 9 maybe a bit later you can outsustain nearly everyone and 1v1 nearly everyone. the only thing about lucian is he can break your W, but the best thing to do with a gank is to safe it till after he uses it. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On July 24 2014 23:57 Slayer91 wrote: name one. (other than lucian, not sure how well he does vs nasus but i have never tested it) gangplank is pretty shit versus nasus unless you want to just farm up. quinn is a bit hard but quinn shits on anyone so better have sustain, she cant get away easily from ganks, similar to teemo matchup I have never played a nasus lane and thought "wow I Shouldn't have picked nasus because x champ owns me too hard" nasus is pretty overrated mid/late game because of his lack of burst and range but he's very strong at least. He's bad against mass ranged champs and thats pretty fotm atm with lulu/ryze/kayles etc top. Sorry I was referring to Nasus' s mid/late game. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
I've seen many times Nasus (and sometimes Udyr) building triforce against teams with TF/Ashe/Lulu/Janna/etc. And get utterly destroyed. The extra 200 damagr means nothing if you can't even reach the target. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On July 25 2014 00:05 Sufficiency wrote: Sorry I was referring to Nasus' s mid/late game. what do you mean by that though? you maen he gets "kited". thats mostly a teamcomp thing because if 3 guys are chaining CC on you then your team comp doesn't work properly to back you up or you're going too deep. Trinity is pretty dumb on nasus you don't need it to win 1v1's and nearly always IBG/+CDR+Defenses are more important | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On July 25 2014 00:12 Sufficiency wrote: OK I hate triforce Nasus. I think it is a situational item and one which you can go without (don't you have Q already?). I've seen many times Nasus (and sometimes Udyr) building triforce against teams with TF/Ashe/Lulu/Janna/etc. And get utterly destroyed. The extra 200 damagr means nothing if you can't even reach the target. Well if you picked a melee with no gapclosers into ashe/lulu/zyra I see bigger issues like trying to teamfight. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
also take flash, ghost/teleport is shit | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
I feel Nasus should build LW as the only damage items and Q tanks. Just my opinion. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
He'll always be a crazy manfighter with his kit once he hits 6 and will always be able to survive in lane thanks to his passive as long as you play like a big pussy on legs. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On July 24 2014 23:51 Sufficiency wrote: Every time I see a Nasus I facepalm. I have never seen a Nasus doing well. I think people win with Nasus because they THINK they can win late game so it prevents some premature surrenders. Lux and Soraka kind of inspire you with what they say. Lux: "Focus on the battle." "I never think about losing." "We can do this." "Stay positive." and her laugh of course does the opposite to the enemy team Raka: "Have hope!" | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On July 25 2014 00:22 Sufficiency wrote: Uh Amumu can't one shot a Zyra. It is really hard even if Amumu builds full AP. He needs to be very fed while Zyra is very behind. I feel Nasus should build LW as the only damage items and Q tanks. Just my opinion. i didnt say amumu is going to one shot zyra i mean he uses his you know, CC skills to lock down the enemy team adn quickly focus down a squishy with his teams focused fire also nasus didn't become bad its juts vayneauthority has no idea what he's talking about lol ghost teleport defintiely insn't shit on nasus. Sometimes you want flash but I think most of the time ghost is way more useful. Offensively flash doesn't do much since you have nothing to follow it up with except Q, and defensively ghost is better over a long period. only against say jarvan would you take flash, or maybe a really annoying early jungle+top combo. | ||
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