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canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
July 07 2014 18:26 GMT
#741
Shyvana jungle with the new SotAG is a beast. It's like the perfect item for her.
Gargas is pretty fun too.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
July 07 2014 18:30 GMT
#742
On July 08 2014 03:20 Dusty wrote:
The fact that Riot hasn't banned Bistre (known NA DDoS-er) is a joke. So much proof and evidence that he is doing this and no action has been taken.

Oh damn is that what the Dyrus tweet was about? I thought he was talking about some bistro place LOL
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 07 2014 18:31 GMT
#743
On July 08 2014 03:26 canikizu wrote:
Shyvana jungle with the new SotAG is a beast. It's like the perfect item for her.
Gargas is pretty fun too.

SotAG is like Dcap for people with health scaling.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 07 2014 18:32 GMT
#744
On July 08 2014 03:30 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:20 Dusty wrote:
The fact that Riot hasn't banned Bistre (known NA DDoS-er) is a joke. So much proof and evidence that he is doing this and no action has been taken.

Oh damn is that what the Dyrus tweet was about? I thought he was talking about some bistro place LOL

It's rather impressive how publicly known bistre is and how unsubtle he is. Mancloud entered a match, saw bistre and the second bistre's team started losing his connection magically dropped due mysterious unknown forces.
Glorious SEA doto
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
July 07 2014 18:46 GMT
#745
On July 08 2014 02:41 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 02:05 Sufficiency wrote:
DFG vlad is about as good as AD Ahri.

AD Ahri used to be okay when Muramana was broken as fuck.

AD ahri is still fine.

She has a fast base auto speed (.668; better than most ADCs) she has ok scaling (2% vs the 3-4 that ADs usually have) and she has a 2 second stun on a 12 second cooldown. (Plus the dash). Given that two attack speed items is common these days low AS scaling isn't even that big a deal.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 07 2014 19:17 GMT
#746
On July 08 2014 02:42 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 02:41 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 08 2014 02:05 Sufficiency wrote:
DFG vlad is about as good as AD Ahri.

AD Ahri used to be okay when Muramana was broken as fuck.

what
lol

The muramana proc on each of her W and her ult, did pretty bonkers damage.
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-07 19:41:06
July 07 2014 19:27 GMT
#747
On July 08 2014 04:17 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 02:42 arb wrote:
On July 08 2014 02:41 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 08 2014 02:05 Sufficiency wrote:
DFG vlad is about as good as AD Ahri.

AD Ahri used to be okay when Muramana was broken as fuck.

what
lol

The muramana proc on each of her W and her ult, did pretty bonkers damage.

Going to point out that muramana used to be magic damage too.

Didn't they change it so series dodges weren't game losses anymore?
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
July 07 2014 19:58 GMT
#748
nope. tabbed out and didnt select a champion yesterday and it lost me my series.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 07 2014 20:49 GMT
#749
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/07/77-pbe-update.html

holy shit, if these go through........... lol. WHEN THE FUCK IS RIOT GUNNA LEARN RANGE CHANGES ARE FUCKING STUPID.
liftlift > tsm
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
July 07 2014 20:51 GMT
#750
and the circle of ad nerfs keep on going
BW -> League -> CSGO
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 07 2014 20:52 GMT
#751
On July 08 2014 05:51 wussleeQ wrote:
and the circle of ad nerfs keep on going

it's fucking 50 range. like holy shit, that's huge. 25 wrecked kennen for like 2 1/2 season.
liftlift > tsm
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
July 07 2014 20:53 GMT
#752
ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS GIVE HIS PASSIVE A COOLDOWN LOL
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 07 2014 20:54 GMT
#753
No way is this all going through.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 07 2014 20:55 GMT
#754
On July 08 2014 05:53 IMoperator wrote:
ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS GIVE HIS PASSIVE A COOLDOWN LOL

I didn't even think he was that op'd tbh. Twitch/Jinx/Kog/Trist were all popping up in these recent patches.
liftlift > tsm
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 07 2014 20:56 GMT
#755
50 range reduction alone if it goes through would replace "olafing" a champion with lucianning.
Glorious SEA doto
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 07 2014 20:57 GMT
#756
On July 08 2014 05:56 Fusilero wrote:
50 range reduction alone if it goes through would replace "olafing" a champion with lucianning.

You mean culling.
liftlift > tsm
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
July 07 2014 20:58 GMT
#757
on the plus side if the changes go through there'll finally be an adc thats worse than quinn.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
July 07 2014 20:58 GMT
#758
On July 08 2014 05:55 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 05:53 IMoperator wrote:
ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS GIVE HIS PASSIVE A COOLDOWN LOL

I didn't even think he was that op'd tbh. Twitch/Jinx/Kog/Trist were all popping up in these recent patches.

he's not, that's the stupid thing, ever since they changed BT he's like lower tier than kog/trist and on the same tier as twitch/cait/jinx
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 07 2014 21:00 GMT
#759
On July 08 2014 05:57 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 05:56 Fusilero wrote:
50 range reduction alone if it goes through would replace "olafing" a champion with lucianning.

You mean culling.

Now that I think about it lucianning is far less natural to say than olafing. Let's go with culling then
Glorious SEA doto
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 07 2014 21:04 GMT
#760
On July 08 2014 05:58 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 05:55 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 08 2014 05:53 IMoperator wrote:
ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS GIVE HIS PASSIVE A COOLDOWN LOL

I didn't even think he was that op'd tbh. Twitch/Jinx/Kog/Trist were all popping up in these recent patches.

he's not, that's the stupid thing, ever since they changed BT he's like lower tier than kog/trist and on the same tier as twitch/cait/jinx

The one thing I did like about Lucian was that it was an ADC that non ADC players could play, and not be useless.
liftlift > tsm
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