EPT[Patch 4.10] Nidalee/Skarner Rework General Discussion - P…
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35143 Posts
On June 18 2014 12:32 chalice wrote: the problem with frozen heart and warmogs isn't with their completed item timings, it's the 1600/1800 gold abyss between belt/warden's and a finished item where you can only buy either a ruby crystal or a cloth armor's worth of EHP. Yup, but the top lane meta is shifting harder to 1.5 item timings with cutlass/tiamats being common. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On June 18 2014 12:43 sylverfyre wrote: Glacial feels even worse to build now than when it built out of chain mail. It feels like it just doesn't do anything except add 10% cdr. I think the mana is very useful on mana-based bruisers. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 18 2014 12:47 Sufficiency wrote: I think the mana is very useful on mana-based bruisers. What is this? | ||
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ZataN
New Zealand414 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35143 Posts
Currently just Trundle, but the wheel of fotm turns. On June 18 2014 12:53 ZataN wrote: Well I don't really understand why they had to offset the active nerf with a on hit damage buff. Is this to help kill tanks or something? Were unkillable tanks becoming more of a problem again (Mundo)? Jax is still going to be super strong, is he not? It's all about burst vs sustained. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On June 18 2014 12:53 ZataN wrote: Well I don't really understand why they had to offset the active nerf with a on hit damage buff. Is this to help kill tanks or something? Were unkillable tanks becoming more of a problem again (Mundo)? Jax is still going to be super strong, is he not? Yeah, looks bad for tanks. | ||
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miicah
Australia2470 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + /s | ||
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Frudgey
Canada3367 Posts
I mean I know he isn't flavor of the month by any means, but I play a lot of Darius top lane and Glacial actually feels pretty good on him. I also like it because you can build it out of cloth so I don't feel as bad doing cloth 5 in certain match ups. That extra mana on mana based bruisers goes a long way I feel. | ||
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ItsFunToLose
United States776 Posts
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Frudgey
Canada3367 Posts
On June 18 2014 13:02 ItsFunToLose wrote: Darius has mana costs? Haha he does actually. Granted, they're much more noticeable when you're playing against some sort of manaless bruiser!  | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
You!.. Would anyone want to test dueling with like the new botrk vs say sunfire cape + random item? I don't think hydra beats it 1v1 unless you're both standing in creep waves. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On June 18 2014 13:06 Frudgey wrote: Haha he does actually. Granted, they're much more noticeable when you're playing against some sort of manaless bruiser! He feels alot worse when youre playing against a ferocity bruiser too. Sometimes rage brusiers can be really annoying On June 18 2014 13:08 obesechicken13 wrote: You!.. Would anyone want to test dueling with like the new botrk vs say sunfire cape + random item? I don't think hydra beats it 1v1 unless you're both standing in creep waves. I think it would depend on the champion. I think hydra riven should outburst just bork easily, hydra on renekton is very strong too provided you run away and manage your cooldowns well + abuse them early you can be way stronger when bork would usually rape you anally | ||
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Gahlo
United States35143 Posts
On June 18 2014 13:02 ItsFunToLose wrote: Darius has mana costs? Duh, haven't you felt the pain of being 2 mana short on your NBA JAM highlight reel penta? | ||
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Badboyrune
Sweden2247 Posts
I really, really wish they would stop trying to shove ap in the faces of supports. At best it does nothing because people are not interested in buy ap on supports, however if they keep giving supports stupid ap ratios on random stuff we're going to end up with more lane lulu/sorakas that does weird and annoying stuff that no one enjoys. I also really hope Nidalee just goes the way of Olaf and dies a slow, agonizing and lonely death where she can sit and ponder all the horrible games she's created, but with a 1.2ap ration on spear chances are it wont really change much | ||
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kongoline
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IMoperator
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Also that Lucian nerf, wadafaq. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
WW, Amumu, Pony just on top of my head. They all have some really good spammable spells, but they are somewhat gated by their max mana that they cannot continue to function in an extended fight. +max mana items work wonders on them. | ||
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