EPT[Patch 4.8] RIP Pantheon General Discussion - Page 28
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On May 27 2014 01:16 phathom321 wrote: Don't most assassins basically do the same thing with early kills? Rengar's early kill potential is pretty nuts and lets him snowball a lot easier than champions like Fizz or Akali and could probably use some tuning (along with the obvious issues of Ferocity) but I'd say that if your friend was on Fizz or Akali with 2 early kills like that he probably would have wrecked people in fights like just as well as Rengar could. Any assassin who snowballs real hard can do these things. Rengar is a little different though because of how his ult works. Fizz, Akali, Leblanc, Talon etc part of their damage is tied to their ult. If they're so fed they can instagib somebody without using their ult then they work similar to Rengar yes, but if they need their ult to get a kill it's different. They instagib somebody 1v1, but then when your team forces a 5v4 for an objective afterwards, they aren't as scary without their ult. Rengar's ult does not increase his damage, all it does is give him guaranteed engage on an isolated target. It's not of much use in a 5v5 at all aside from just giving vision. So not only does he have better engage on the isolated target since his ult lets him bypass wards and see where everybody is, after he ganks somebody he still has 100% of his teamfight potential to pressure an objective afterwards. Basically what this means is he doesn't have to be as far ahead as other assassins to do the same sort of shit. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Also his ult does give him damage.....How is stacking ferocity for free not giving him damage? | ||
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
On May 27 2014 01:01 Fildun wrote: He got one kill at level 3 on their jungler and then one at level 4 on the solo laner I think. Oh okay, incidentally I had a Silver 5 Rengar in a game on my smurf who was against a plat and he got a double on their jungle/top when they dove him, he had this strange quadruple doran into tiamat+LW I think. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
And his damage maybe needs to be reduced a little. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 27 2014 01:19 turdburgler wrote: i dont see how anyone can possibly defend a situation where any champ can kill another with 0 opportunity to fight back. Til poppy is op'd | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Quiet, we're going to take over EU LCS with her. | ||
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Chemiczny84
Poland458 Posts
She is if you don't shut her down early... | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On May 27 2014 01:35 krndandaman wrote: this. there's hardly anything you can do to be completely safe from rengar, especially in soloq. the only thing you can do is stay near teammates (and even then sometimes rengar is strong enough to just dive in and kill you) but eventually you'll have to clear a wave or whatnot. its extremely frustrating to play against something you can't react to. Out of curiosity, does everyone feel the same for TF or Noc? | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 27 2014 01:47 Sufficiency wrote: Out of curiosity, does everyone feel the same for TF or Noc? Nocturne sorta, mostly cuz you can't see shit. At least with TF you get time to react. On May 27 2014 01:44 Fusilero wrote: Quiet, we're going to take over EU LCS with her. And they thought jax was a late game terror. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
The problem with Rengar may have to do with his unlimited gapclosing in brush, his burst, and his instant E (compared to Noc who needs time for his Unspeakable Horror) | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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johnybravo22
38 Posts
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Wolfstan
Canada605 Posts
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