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Updated TL LoL policy in regards to the use of "lomo"

In regards to theorycrafting and hyperbole, please have firsthand experience of the scenario before giving your input

Future of TL LoL, post Liquid`Dota standalone site
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
May 14 2014 10:12 GMT
#921
So, from my understanding Ryze vs Kayle lane is basically "whoever gets more jungle pressure stomps the other". Am I wrong on that?
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
May 14 2014 10:13 GMT
#922
On May 14 2014 19:12 739 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 19:09 Gahlo wrote:
On May 14 2014 19:02 739 wrote:
I wish we had such an awesome event calendar like LiquidDota have...

Too bad, soon we won't even be on there.

yeah let's just hope SC2 will die soon.

But I still enjoy Starcraft.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 14 2014 10:27 GMT
#923
On May 14 2014 19:12 AlterKot wrote:
So, from my understanding Ryze vs Kayle lane is basically "whoever gets more jungle pressure stomps the other". Am I wrong on that?

Pretty much.Kayle will keep you under tower 24/7 so its either you get outfarmed or your jungler comes to stop her.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
May 14 2014 10:30 GMT
#924
if kayle is keeping you under tower and your jungler doesnt do anything about it thats just kinda sad. and she cant harras you under the tower because of your prison.

i think as far as it goes ryze should be happy with a lane like that, if you are confident in your late game just chill under tower np.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
May 14 2014 10:48 GMT
#925
Alright, guess I was trying too hard to zone her from farm and try to harras and keep her low, next time I'll just afkfarm.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
May 14 2014 10:50 GMT
#926
I have not played for over a year, but I feel like playing some games. Can anyone point me to a good tierlist of champions or recommend me some?

I prefer support, jungle or top
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
May 14 2014 10:53 GMT
#927
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/24jljg/strong_soloq_picks_list_with_insight_from_a/
http://cloth5.com/4-6competitivetierlist/

I use these.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 14 2014 11:06 GMT
#928
This commentator in the skt vs kt match is a new level of bad
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 14 2014 11:16 GMT
#929
On May 14 2014 19:13 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 19:12 739 wrote:
On May 14 2014 19:09 Gahlo wrote:
On May 14 2014 19:02 739 wrote:
I wish we had such an awesome event calendar like LiquidDota have...

Too bad, soon we won't even be on there.

yeah let's just hope SC2 will die soon.

But I still enjoy Starcraft.

Because KT rolster is still winning in SC2?
Glorious SEA doto
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 14 2014 12:10 GMT
#930
On May 14 2014 19:53 AlterKot wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/24jljg/strong_soloq_picks_list_with_insight_from_a/
http://cloth5.com/4-6competitivetierlist/

I use these.


Those are for competitive games though. In soloQ there are tons of good champions that are not even remotely good in competitive.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 12:12:52
May 14 2014 12:12 GMT
#931
is that why he never mentions that they are strong in solo queue
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
May 14 2014 13:21 GMT
#932
First link is for soloq, but it has only 5 champs per role so that's why I use cloth5 list too.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 14 2014 13:24 GMT
#933
On May 14 2014 22:21 AlterKot wrote:
First link is for soloq, but it has only 5 champs per role so that's why I use cloth5 list too.


Oh there are two links lol. On my phone it almost seems like there is only one
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 14 2014 13:43 GMT
#934
On May 14 2014 14:30 Goumindong wrote:
It's because global ultimates lack power in strict 5v5 settings. Mid game can snowball on global plays which lead to quick wins but as games get longer they're harder to make use because the enemy will tend to be grouped more and because the enemy will be able to avoid the global ults.

Pantheon has a weaker late game because of it

Really? Shen used to be very important lategame, and Twisted Fate, and teleport has always been considered a late game summoner.

Freeeeeeedom
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 14 2014 13:53 GMT
#935
My understanding of the issue is that Shen has an aow taunt and TF has AOE Q at long range and W on pretty short cooldown.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 14 2014 14:01 GMT
#936
Also Pantheon's R has a fairly long channel.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
May 14 2014 14:09 GMT
#937
I hate that Twisted Fate is seeing more play lately. You start a fight bot lane and you're winning and then BAM the eye appears. :D
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 14 2014 14:16 GMT
#938
Twisted Fate is my go to pick once again.

Well, unless it is LeBlanc on the other side, in which case I just dodge.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
May 14 2014 14:30 GMT
#939
On May 14 2014 22:43 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 14:30 Goumindong wrote:
It's because global ultimates lack power in strict 5v5 settings. Mid game can snowball on global plays which lead to quick wins but as games get longer they're harder to make use because the enemy will tend to be grouped more and because the enemy will be able to avoid the global ults.

Pantheon has a weaker late game because of it

Really? Shen used to be very important lategame, and Twisted Fate, and teleport has always been considered a late game summoner.



Pantheon doesn't have a good way to splitpush unless he's really ahead. Both Shen and TF can splitpush quite successfully.

Shen cause he can just pressure a lane. If you come after him, he will take forever to kill and even has a good chance of escaping cause of E over walls and stuff.

TF cause he melts towers with W and lichbane, can duel well against both squishies with his burst, and tanks with his low cooldown stun and quite good sustained damage. Not to mention a TF with lichbane and/or spooky ghost + MS quints/masteries is damn hard to catch unless you surround him.

Because Pantheon can't really duel tanks and isn't even that good vs squishies (talking lategame here), and on top of that, cant run away nearly as well as the other two, the split push threat of his ultimate is a lot weaker.

The best way to use pantheons ultimate lategame is to force an objective, then use ult to cut off the other team while your team engages. This, however, requires more coordination than what's available in some (most?) soloq games. If you place your ult too far away from your team, you run the risk of dying before your team even gets into the fight, resulting in "omg panth why suicide??"-comments from your team. And if you ult too close to your team, the other team might get away with only Talisman burned.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 14 2014 14:58 GMT
#940
But that is just an indictment of pantheon as a holder for a lategame global, not late game globals in general (which is what I disagreed with).
Freeeeeeedom
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