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EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
May 14 2014 15:07 GMT
#941
On May 14 2014 19:53 AlterKot wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/24jljg/strong_soloq_picks_list_with_insight_from_a/
http://cloth5.com/4-6competitivetierlist/

I use these.


The only additions I have to the first tier list would be Vel'Koz for support (seems harder to play than the average support) and TF for mid lane.
I also probably wouldn't have put Irelia on the top champs, but I can see his point.
wat
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
May 14 2014 15:11 GMT
#942
On something completely different. Does Pantheon E apply Braum's passive stacks on every single volley? If so that would maybe make the Braum/Pantheon dragonslayer combo a fun cheesy botlane pick. Panth stun into impossible to miss Braum Q into Braum's passive stun in under a second. Pretty big burst/kill potential.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 14 2014 15:14 GMT
#943
On May 15 2014 00:11 Mikau wrote:
On something completely different. Does Pantheon E apply Braum's passive stacks on every single volley? If so that would maybe make the Braum/Pantheon dragonslayer combo a fun cheesy botlane pick. Panth stun into impossible to miss Braum Q into Braum's passive stun in under a second. Pretty big burst/kill potential.

You could just read braum's passive description and see the answer?
+ Show Spoiler +
ofc not
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
May 14 2014 15:15 GMT
#944
Think it's autos only that proc it
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
May 14 2014 15:17 GMT
#945
On May 15 2014 00:14 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2014 00:11 Mikau wrote:
On something completely different. Does Pantheon E apply Braum's passive stacks on every single volley? If so that would maybe make the Braum/Pantheon dragonslayer combo a fun cheesy botlane pick. Panth stun into impossible to miss Braum Q into Braum's passive stun in under a second. Pretty big burst/kill potential.

You could just read braum's passive description and see the answer?
+ Show Spoiler +
ofc not

No need to be an ass about it.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
May 14 2014 15:18 GMT
#946
Nightblue sitting there wondering whether or not some guy is Amazing.

Isn't he a TSM sub? Shouldn't he know who is teammates are?

Goes to show how much of a joke these team "subs" are.
Useless wet fish.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
May 14 2014 15:23 GMT
#947
On May 15 2014 00:18 Capped wrote:
Nightblue sitting there wondering whether or not some guy is Amazing.

Isn't he a TSM sub? Shouldn't he know who is teammates are?

Goes to show how much of a joke these team "subs" are.


theres no such thing as TSM subs since subs in TSM wont make it in the main team no matter what
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
May 14 2014 15:25 GMT
#948
On May 15 2014 00:23 justiceknight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2014 00:18 Capped wrote:
Nightblue sitting there wondering whether or not some guy is Amazing.

Isn't he a TSM sub? Shouldn't he know who is teammates are?

Goes to show how much of a joke these team "subs" are.


theres no such thing as TSM subs since subs in TSM wont make it in the main team no matter what


Nightblue doesn't even want to be in the LCS, he just wants the TSM brand for viewers and to stream all year.

He makes more then LCS players just streaming too which is funny.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
May 14 2014 15:34 GMT
#949
The sub system in LCS is so fucked.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 14 2014 15:37 GMT
#950
There's nothing particularly special about the sub system, rito tries to enforce subs so we don't have another repeat of aAa but teams just don't give a fuck about their subs.
Glorious SEA doto
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 16:10:01
May 14 2014 16:02 GMT
#951
On May 14 2014 23:58 cLutZ wrote:
But that is just an indictment of pantheon as a holder for a lategame global, not late game globals in general (which is what I disagreed with).


Yeah sorry I can't read. I agree with you that globals fall off a lot in late game scenarios (in soloq).

Edit: Nightblue wants to be a TSM sub because having TSM in the title gives him more viewers. TSM want nightblue as a sub because it convenient for TSM to have a decent (no idea how good he is in competative, but he has played SOME arranged 5s) jungle sub.

So if they would need a jungle sub for a week in the LCS, they could use him. Like if Amazing would have visa issues and oddone for some reason couldn't make a one week comeback.

It's highly unlikely that he's ever going to sub for TSM in the LCS, but it's way better to have a backup, than to go "Oh shit we need to find a jungler within the next few days or we're screwed.
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
May 14 2014 16:07 GMT
#952
Is Pantheon jungle still top tier?

Also, I really don't get Jax... I basically have to play like the biggest pussy ever (or die horrible and embarassing deaths) for the first 30 minutes. That is so much the opposite of what I usually play, it's really really hard and confusing.

Should I watch vods from people like WingsofDeath on Youtube to better learn how to play Jax? Is it even worth it?

Also, I really struggle with Ryze. Basically I can't farm for shit with that auto attack -.-
God why is learning a new role so hard -.-
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 14 2014 16:07 GMT
#953
On May 15 2014 01:02 zodde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 23:58 cLutZ wrote:
But that is just an indictment of pantheon as a holder for a lategame global, not late game globals in general (which is what I disagreed with).


Yeah sorry I can't read. I agree with you that globals fall off a lot in late game scenarios (in soloq).

I actually think they are strong...
Freeeeeeedom
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 14 2014 16:09 GMT
#954
On May 15 2014 00:18 Capped wrote:
Nightblue sitting there wondering whether or not some guy is Amazing.

Isn't he a TSM sub? Shouldn't he know who is teammates are?

Goes to show how much of a joke these team "subs" are.


He doesn't talk to the other TSM members.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 14 2014 16:10 GMT
#955
On May 14 2014 19:13 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 19:12 739 wrote:
On May 14 2014 19:09 Gahlo wrote:
On May 14 2014 19:02 739 wrote:
I wish we had such an awesome event calendar like LiquidDota have...

Too bad, soon we won't even be on there.

yeah let's just hope SC2 will die soon.

But I still enjoy Starcraft.


Me too.
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 16:29:56
May 14 2014 16:19 GMT
#956
On May 15 2014 01:07 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2014 01:02 zodde wrote:
On May 14 2014 23:58 cLutZ wrote:
But that is just an indictment of pantheon as a holder for a lategame global, not late game globals in general (which is what I disagreed with).


Yeah sorry I can't read. I agree with you that globals fall off a lot in late game scenarios (in soloq).

I actually think they are strong...


Yeah sorry I am even worse at reading than I thought. My mind is all over the place today.

I guess I can agree with globals being strong in a vacuum, however, I dont think that their lategame power is necessarily what makes champions with globals strong. And it's kind of hard to separate globals from the champion that have them. All three global ults have their strongest points in the midgame IMO.

Teleport is so strong right now because the reduced cooldown on turrets make them double as a free card for laning fuck-ups. Previously, if you died/got too low to stay at a tower with a huge minion wave coming in, you lost the lane. Now you can just TP back and get most of the exp anyways. That combined with the current top "meta" picks makes for a laning phase that is very hard to straight up lose.

Of course TP is also strong because of dragon fights and stuff, but previously, you would lose lane too hard vs an ignite top laner without getting all that much back during the laning phase.

ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
May 14 2014 16:28 GMT
#957
On May 15 2014 01:02 zodde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 23:58 cLutZ wrote:
But that is just an indictment of pantheon as a holder for a lategame global, not late game globals in general (which is what I disagreed with).


Yeah sorry I can't read. I agree with you that globals fall off a lot in late game scenarios (in soloq).

Edit: Nightblue wants to be a TSM sub because having TSM in the title gives him more viewers. TSM want nightblue as a sub because it convenient for TSM to have a decent (no idea how good he is in competative, but he has played SOME arranged 5s) jungle sub.

So if they would need a jungle sub for a week in the LCS, they could use him. Like if Amazing would have visa issues and oddone for some reason couldn't make a one week comeback.

It's highly unlikely that he's ever going to sub for TSM in the LCS, but it's way better to have a backup, than to go "Oh shit we need to find a jungler within the next few days or we're screwed.
Not really, TSM want him because of streaming, marketing & publicity, of that I have no doubt. By agreeing to join TSM's streaming network, a portion of NB's Twitch profits go to TSM. Considering the extra exposure that a TSM banner gives him, I would definitively imagine the agreement is worthwhile for both parties.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
May 14 2014 16:32 GMT
#958
On May 15 2014 01:07 Celial wrote:
Is Pantheon jungle still top tier?


Nightblue sure seems to think so. He's of the opinion that he can fight any jungler at any time in the early game outside of Kha'Zix, but even then it can be iffy.
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
May 14 2014 16:33 GMT
#959
On May 15 2014 01:28 ChaoSbringer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2014 01:02 zodde wrote:
On May 14 2014 23:58 cLutZ wrote:
But that is just an indictment of pantheon as a holder for a lategame global, not late game globals in general (which is what I disagreed with).


Yeah sorry I can't read. I agree with you that globals fall off a lot in late game scenarios (in soloq).

Edit: Nightblue wants to be a TSM sub because having TSM in the title gives him more viewers. TSM want nightblue as a sub because it convenient for TSM to have a decent (no idea how good he is in competative, but he has played SOME arranged 5s) jungle sub.

So if they would need a jungle sub for a week in the LCS, they could use him. Like if Amazing would have visa issues and oddone for some reason couldn't make a one week comeback.

It's highly unlikely that he's ever going to sub for TSM in the LCS, but it's way better to have a backup, than to go "Oh shit we need to find a jungler within the next few days or we're screwed.
Not really, TSM want him because of streaming, marketing & publicity, of that I have no doubt. By agreeing to join TSM's streaming network, a portion of NB's Twitch profits go to TSM. Considering the extra exposure that a TSM banner gives him, I would definitively imagine the agreement is worthwhile for both parties.


Makes a lot of sense, didn't really think of that angle. However, having a sub as a last resort isn't exaclty a drawback, is it?

Your point probably played a much bigger role in making the deal happen though.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
May 14 2014 16:34 GMT
#960
http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=15827596

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