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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
May 20 2014 17:31 GMT
#2041
On May 21 2014 02:06 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 02:04 Celial wrote:
Why wouldn't you give him Ez though. I mean, come on. It's your own fault, really.

rofl, wtf. You're blaming the victim. gw


you're missing the joke, gw.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 20 2014 17:33 GMT
#2042
If it was a joke, certainly whooshed over me.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
May 20 2014 18:37 GMT
#2043
Does this mean you can be drop-hacked out of champion selection ?
I played a normal two days ago, where champ select got cancelled like 4 or 5 times in a row for "Player failing to select a champion" though I'm pretty sure they were hovering something everytime.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
May 20 2014 18:45 GMT
#2044
On May 21 2014 03:37 -Zoda- wrote:
Does this mean you can be drop-hacked out of champion selection ?
I played a normal two days ago, where champ select got cancelled like 4 or 5 times in a row for "Player failing to select a champion" though I'm pretty sure they were hovering something everytime.


The message is bugged, that just means someone dodged.

Unrelated: Been playing my smurf the last couple days, my god I forgot how slow progress is on getting champs/runes without spending $. Most of the good junglers also seem to be 4800-6300, ouch.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 20 2014 18:54 GMT
#2045
On May 21 2014 01:07 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 01:05 ParadeofMadness wrote:
Got chat restricted for 20 games, jesus this is so bullshit.
Cant even see the tribunal cases because for some reason there was no email

It's automated based on reports about you acting like a jerk. Be glad you got 20, it's the lowest duration there is.

Huh? I received one for 5 games before.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Ichtyornis
Profile Joined May 2014
9 Posts
May 20 2014 19:02 GMT
#2046
How can you even be sure it's a drophack if game was still in champ select ?
I thought the recognition factor was the game missing in game history.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11514 Posts
May 20 2014 19:09 GMT
#2047
On May 21 2014 02:26 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 02:06 Simberto wrote:
So, assuming you are botlane, and you are blue side, and pushing.

How does one survive the gank where the enemy comes through your own jungle via mid? Especially early on you just can't ward against that. If you ward your own tribush you are still dead when you see the guy. If mid wards reasonably, you are fine, but mid never wards. If you walk and ward for mid you leave your ADC alone for 30+ seconds, which usually doesn't end well. I guess the solution is "don't push if you are on that side", but that usually means that you lose the lane anyways. Also hard to convince your ADC of that.

This is a problem i have had for quite i while. Usually it isn't that hard because for some utterly inexplicable reason junglers rarely gank via that path. No matter what i do, i can't come up with a solution that is better then "Mid has to ward that path", but that doesn't really help because that never happens.

Disclaimer: In the last month I have played a single game of blue side support (DuoQ with LPL All-Star Kyrie "Mejais SoulStealer" Clinic). It was at a glorious Gold 5-Gold 3 MMR.

1) If Mid wards that path then you are just fine

2) If you know their Jungler is not around then (is currently showing in top lane) you can do whatever the fuck you want

3) If your Jungler is around and you are pushing because you're stronger than their bot lane (either you chunked them with harass or they're just a weaker duo) then ping like crazy and it will be free triple kill

4) If the enemy bot lane is in a position where they can't aid a gank because they're pushed in to tower at half HP with two creep waves built up then you can still do whatever you want because you can just turn and kill their jungler 2v1 when he comes from behind

5) If its very likely that you're about to get double killed because they have a ganking jungler that hasn't shown anywhere and you're pushed up and guaranteed to lose the 2v3 even though you have the stronger creep wave (you got chunked low on HP; they have high HP and strong all-in/gank assist; the enemy jungler does massive DPS and you can't burst him down 2v1 before the enemy laners show up) then you should probably just play like bitches and stay out of range of the enemy duo engage so that you can navigate around the gank coming.


The problem is that i am not a duo. If i am duoing, then yes, i can act like that. However, most of the time i am only a support. And noone ever listens to supports. People only listen to others if they have 5/1/x stats. So if they don't see them, they don't believe me that they exist. And coordinating with a random adc to kill the jungler when they are in full panic OMG I AM GETTING GANKED GOTTA RUN mode is really hard.

I'd be kind of interested as to why not every jungler does this gank, as it appears to be so incredibly effective. Mids never ward. I have no idea why this is the case even with free wards, but they just don't.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
May 20 2014 19:13 GMT
#2048
Tried this "Korean Kayle" build twice today (even though I've seen ppl building Hurricane on Kayle for months and get flamed for it). Shit's is animal.

The even crazier splitpushing alone made it worth it over Lich Bane/MPen boots, but in teamfights, each E swing felt like a Fiddle ulti.
Forever Young
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
May 20 2014 19:16 GMT
#2049
On May 21 2014 02:33 NeoIllusions wrote:
If it was a joke, certainly whooshed over me.


its a satire based on taking the perspective of the toxic drophacker
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 19:33:42
May 20 2014 19:32 GMT
#2050
selfie with dat solo q play

On May 21 2014 04:13 sung_moon wrote:
Tried this "Korean Kayle" build twice today (even though I've seen ppl building Hurricane on Kayle for months and get flamed for it). Shit's is animal.

The even crazier splitpushing alone made it worth it over Lich Bane/MPen boots, but in teamfights, each E swing felt like a Fiddle ulti.


i really dont believe it. it feels like a build where you have no damage for 20+ minutes as your teams ap mid and just hope you dont get punished for it. in that case sure you deserve to win once you have 3+ items completed but if your build needs 6-8k gold to do anything you are gonna lose more than you win.
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
May 20 2014 19:35 GMT
#2051
On May 21 2014 01:05 ParadeofMadness wrote:
Got chat restricted for 20 games, jesus this is so bullshit.
Cant even see the tribunal cases because for some reason there was no email

I play 2 games a day for 5 days a week. Gonna take me 2 weeks for this to be over.



I picked up 30 games. Down to 16 now.

Totally deserved it, lucky I'm not banned.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 19:42:08
May 20 2014 19:40 GMT
#2052
On May 21 2014 04:09 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 02:26 xes wrote:
On May 21 2014 02:06 Simberto wrote:
So, assuming you are botlane, and you are blue side, and pushing.

How does one survive the gank where the enemy comes through your own jungle via mid? Especially early on you just can't ward against that. If you ward your own tribush you are still dead when you see the guy. If mid wards reasonably, you are fine, but mid never wards. If you walk and ward for mid you leave your ADC alone for 30+ seconds, which usually doesn't end well. I guess the solution is "don't push if you are on that side", but that usually means that you lose the lane anyways. Also hard to convince your ADC of that.

This is a problem i have had for quite i while. Usually it isn't that hard because for some utterly inexplicable reason junglers rarely gank via that path. No matter what i do, i can't come up with a solution that is better then "Mid has to ward that path", but that doesn't really help because that never happens.

Disclaimer: In the last month I have played a single game of blue side support (DuoQ with LPL All-Star Kyrie "Mejais SoulStealer" Clinic). It was at a glorious Gold 5-Gold 3 MMR.

1) If Mid wards that path then you are just fine

2) If you know their Jungler is not around then (is currently showing in top lane) you can do whatever the fuck you want

3) If your Jungler is around and you are pushing because you're stronger than their bot lane (either you chunked them with harass or they're just a weaker duo) then ping like crazy and it will be free triple kill

4) If the enemy bot lane is in a position where they can't aid a gank because they're pushed in to tower at half HP with two creep waves built up then you can still do whatever you want because you can just turn and kill their jungler 2v1 when he comes from behind

5) If its very likely that you're about to get double killed because they have a ganking jungler that hasn't shown anywhere and you're pushed up and guaranteed to lose the 2v3 even though you have the stronger creep wave (you got chunked low on HP; they have high HP and strong all-in/gank assist; the enemy jungler does massive DPS and you can't burst him down 2v1 before the enemy laners show up) then you should probably just play like bitches and stay out of range of the enemy duo engage so that you can navigate around the gank coming.


The problem is that i am not a duo. If i am duoing, then yes, i can act like that. However, most of the time i am only a support. And noone ever listens to supports. People only listen to others if they have 5/1/x stats. So if they don't see them, they don't believe me that they exist. And coordinating with a random adc to kill the jungler when they are in full panic OMG I AM GETTING GANKED GOTTA RUN mode is really hard.

I'd be kind of interested as to why not every jungler does this gank, as it appears to be so incredibly effective. Mids never ward. I have no idea why this is the case even with free wards, but they just don't.



The only solution to your first-stated problem is pinking the tri-brush early on (after first back typically) and then keeping pressure on said pink ward with your adc and you will be fine. There is no other real solution, but this solution is used constantly at my MMR (low diamond thrash shit, but u get the point). The reason is, that it's too risky for purple's team support to actually face-check the brush (in case blue jungler shows up) and the lack of ward's early on makes it even harder. They have 2 realistic shots with their yellow trinket, but it usually fails since purple ADC will lose several creeps trying to ensure map control and it often ends up with you having the tri-brush for yourself, while purple support will control the river-brush with a pink (typically).

On May 21 2014 01:05 ParadeofMadness wrote:
Got chat restricted for 20 games, jesus this is so bullshit.
Cant even see the tribunal cases because for some reason there was no email

I play 2 games a day for 5 days a week. Gonna take me 2 weeks for this to be over.


Lol stop da whine pls, i got 40 games chat restriction and I'm still surprised how light of a punishment i actually got.
hi
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 19:48:29
May 20 2014 19:48 GMT
#2053
On May 21 2014 03:45 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 03:37 -Zoda- wrote:
Does this mean you can be drop-hacked out of champion selection ?
I played a normal two days ago, where champ select got cancelled like 4 or 5 times in a row for "Player failing to select a champion" though I'm pretty sure they were hovering something everytime.


The message is bugged, that just means someone dodged.

Unrelated: Been playing my smurf the last couple days, my god I forgot how slow progress is on getting champs/runes without spending $. Most of the good junglers also seem to be 4800-6300, ouch.


My smurf is actually OK. The only "expensive" champion I got is Noc. When he is not available I can still jungle with Amumu, WW, or Yi.


For other lanes, I play Kat (second most expensive champion I got), Soraka, Ryze, TF, Ashe, Janna. I also got Sona for free during NA regionals 2012.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
May 20 2014 19:49 GMT
#2054
TIL everyone on tl is toxic as fuck and actually expects to get banned.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 19:53:41
May 20 2014 19:52 GMT
#2055
I've been expecting a permanent ban for 3 years now, and the hardest punishment i've gotten was 2x 72 hour ban when i wasnt planning to play.
hi
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 20 2014 19:53 GMT
#2056
On May 21 2014 04:49 turdburgler wrote:
TIL everyone on tl is toxic as fuck and actually expects to get banned.


Santa Baron icon user here.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
May 20 2014 19:53 GMT
#2057
If you get banned, either you're toxic or you don't know when to shut up and mute dudes yo.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 19:55:21
May 20 2014 19:55 GMT
#2058
On May 21 2014 04:52 Sponkz wrote:
I've been expecting a permanent ban for 3 years now, and the hardest punishment i've gotten was 2x 72 hour ban when i wasnt planning to play.

i have got warnings out of game saying ive been reported, what do those mean?
they randomly pop up sometimes when im not even being toxic too.

I've never been banned or anything in the many many many years ive been playing this game :X

On May 21 2014 04:53 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 04:49 turdburgler wrote:
TIL everyone on tl is toxic as fuck and actually expects to get banned.


Santa Baron icon user here.


same
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
May 20 2014 19:55 GMT
#2059
On May 21 2014 04:53 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 04:49 turdburgler wrote:
TIL everyone on tl is toxic as fuck and actually expects to get banned.


Santa Baron icon user here.


Same, *fist bump*
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
May 20 2014 19:58 GMT
#2060
On May 21 2014 04:55 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 04:53 Sufficiency wrote:
On May 21 2014 04:49 turdburgler wrote:
TIL everyone on tl is toxic as fuck and actually expects to get banned.


Santa Baron icon user here.


Same, *fist bump*

Roffles has a Santa Baron
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