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Updated TL LoL policy in regards to the use of "lomo"

In regards to theorycrafting and hyperbole, please have firsthand experience of the scenario before giving your input

Future of TL LoL, post Liquid`Dota standalone site
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
May 20 2014 12:57 GMT
#2021
On May 20 2014 21:45 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 21:43 Gahlo wrote:
Ich streaming, 76 viewers.

How the might have fallen.


he literalls just turned it on, had 12k yesterday.

Aaaaaaaaaand he's at 4k. He'll stay popular, he's a nice guy and a good player.
The legend of Darien lives on
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
May 20 2014 13:00 GMT
#2022
He had over 10.000 viewers yesterday, it's gonna rise, no worries.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 20 2014 13:01 GMT
#2023
I meant in the sense that if you try to come from behind, Q them, and taunt after/during their dash, ranged champs won't get "pulled back in" because of their range, so you have to taunt after you Q them with a limited duration to kill them, in my experience. If they try using their escape before your Q hits, then yes by all means interrupt them, but they aren't always that eager and I've found you need a bursty duo lane to kill them during the taunt. Melee champs are so much easier to kill because you waste less time during the taunt and they're easier to keep in Tremors anyway.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
May 20 2014 13:09 GMT
#2024
On May 20 2014 21:45 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 21:43 Gahlo wrote:
Ich streaming, 76 viewers.

How the might have fallen.


he literalls just turned it on, had 12k yesterday.

Well then.
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
May 20 2014 15:42 GMT
#2025
On May 20 2014 05:50 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 05:45 Diamond wrote:
I feel like the word "bad" is being thrown around quite a bit here without context.

If you say a gold player is "bad", what does that mean? Is he bad compared to the Top .1%? Bad compared to silver? Bad compared to bronze? Remember a MASSIVE amount of the LoL playerbase is Silver or below, being gold alone means you are either REALLY lucky with teamates (go play the lotto if you are that lucky), or you are better than most LoL players.

Anyone that below LCS level isn't just "bad", they are "bad" when compared to that level.

League isn't about making good plays, it's about not making bad ones and capitalizing on when your opponent makes a bad play. Every "good" play is just a result of an opponent having made a bad play, and you capitalizing on it. The main way to improve is to fix all the mistakes you're making, and that requires recognising them, and for gold/plat players, that's going to be a shitload of mistakes being made constantly.

The first part of improving is recognising just how shit you actually are, and how many mistakes you're making, and how many mistakes your opponent is making, (which you then double fuck up by not capitalising on.) You can't get good unless you realise quite how shit you actually are.

/source, I'm fucking terrible tt


Totally late to the party, but this post is golden doggiedog, listen to the wisdom
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
May 20 2014 16:00 GMT
#2026
On May 20 2014 16:30 JazzVortical wrote:
Lina is dumb anyway. Fire based skills with an ult that is a.... lightning bolt. Of course.

Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 13:01 Goumindong wrote:
On May 20 2014 10:48 RagequitBM wrote:
I think Karma and Morgana are the two best solo q supports right now. Usually have comparable damage to your mid laner. It's banay


If you learn when Morgana/Karma should be build as tanks instead of damage they get even stronger.

I can see Morg going full CDR tank at times. Bind all day and not die during ult is appealing if your team needs a beefier frontline, but I don't understand tank Karma. You want to build some AP. Your whole deal in teamfights is an AOE shield, which you want to be as strong as possible. How does being a tank help that?


Tank karma works the same way. Bind all day,slow all day, shield all day. Mantra w back up to enough HP and keep binding. You do it in the same situation you build tank Morg in. When your team needs a front line but doesn't have a jungler or top that will take the role and you are against a team which can initiate through your poke/siege.
ParadeofMadness
Profile Joined February 2014
United Kingdom1027 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 16:08:44
May 20 2014 16:05 GMT
#2027
Got chat restricted for 20 games, jesus this is so bullshit.
Cant even see the tribunal cases because for some reason there was no email

I play 2 games a day for 5 days a week. Gonna take me 2 weeks for this to be over.
See Noob, Flame Noob. Top Lane main. 120ping master race Aspire to be one man rape train : choo-choo- yamedie~ mothafucka
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
May 20 2014 16:07 GMT
#2028
On May 21 2014 01:05 ParadeofMadness wrote:
Got chat restricted for 20 games, jesus this is so bullshit.
Cant even see the tribunal cases because for some reason there was no email

It's automated based on reports about you acting like a jerk. Be glad you got 20, it's the lowest duration there is.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
May 20 2014 16:08 GMT
#2029
Lowest from automated punishment or lowest overall? Because I'm pretty sure I received for 10 games.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
ParadeofMadness
Profile Joined February 2014
United Kingdom1027 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 16:09:56
May 20 2014 16:09 GMT
#2030
Nice of you to assume things without even seeing the tribunal case. Dickhead.

User was warned for this post
See Noob, Flame Noob. Top Lane main. 120ping master race Aspire to be one man rape train : choo-choo- yamedie~ mothafucka
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
May 20 2014 16:10 GMT
#2031
On May 21 2014 01:09 ParadeofMadness wrote:
Nice of you to assume things without even seeing the tribunal case.

Nice of you being so touchy and interpreting poorly. I said reports of you being a jerk, not you being a jerk.
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
May 20 2014 16:10 GMT
#2032
On May 21 2014 01:09 ParadeofMadness wrote:
Nice of you to assume things without even seeing the tribunal case. Dickhead.


There's one example
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
May 20 2014 16:10 GMT
#2033
On May 21 2014 01:09 ParadeofMadness wrote:
Dickhead.


No need to see tribunal. ^_^
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
May 20 2014 16:14 GMT
#2034
On May 21 2014 01:05 ParadeofMadness wrote:
Got chat restricted for 20 games, jesus this is so bullshit.
Cant even see the tribunal cases because for some reason there was no email

I play 2 games a day for 5 days a week. Gonna take me 2 weeks for this to be over.

On May 21 2014 00:44 ParadeofMadness wrote:
Why does TL hate LoL so much?
One of the biggest games with the most active posters, yet only stream not by default is lol.
Is Nazgul just jelly of Lol's popularity? pathetic

On May 21 2014 01:09 ParadeofMadness wrote:
Nice of you to assume things without even seeing the tribunal case. Dickhead.

LOL
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 20 2014 16:22 GMT
#2035
Wow, got drophacked by my own teammate in ARAM because I wouldn't give him Ezreal.

I can't even.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
May 20 2014 17:04 GMT
#2036
Why wouldn't you give him Ez though. I mean, come on. It's your own fault, really.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11924 Posts
May 20 2014 17:06 GMT
#2037
So, assuming you are botlane, and you are blue side, and pushing.

How does one survive the gank where the enemy comes through your own jungle via mid? Especially early on you just can't ward against that. If you ward your own tribush you are still dead when you see the guy. If mid wards reasonably, you are fine, but mid never wards. If you walk and ward for mid you leave your ADC alone for 30+ seconds, which usually doesn't end well. I guess the solution is "don't push if you are on that side", but that usually means that you lose the lane anyways. Also hard to convince your ADC of that.

This is a problem i have had for quite i while. Usually it isn't that hard because for some utterly inexplicable reason junglers rarely gank via that path. No matter what i do, i can't come up with a solution that is better then "Mid has to ward that path", but that doesn't really help because that never happens.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 20 2014 17:06 GMT
#2038
On May 21 2014 02:04 Celial wrote:
Why wouldn't you give him Ez though. I mean, come on. It's your own fault, really.

rofl, wtf. You're blaming the victim. gw
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
May 20 2014 17:20 GMT
#2039
On May 21 2014 02:06 Simberto wrote:
So, assuming you are botlane, and you are blue side, and pushing.

How does one survive the gank where the enemy comes through your own jungle via mid? Especially early on you just can't ward against that. If you ward your own tribush you are still dead when you see the guy. If mid wards reasonably, you are fine, but mid never wards. If you walk and ward for mid you leave your ADC alone for 30+ seconds, which usually doesn't end well. I guess the solution is "don't push if you are on that side", but that usually means that you lose the lane anyways. Also hard to convince your ADC of that.

This is a problem i have had for quite i while. Usually it isn't that hard because for some utterly inexplicable reason junglers rarely gank via that path. No matter what i do, i can't come up with a solution that is better then "Mid has to ward that path", but that doesn't really help because that never happens.


1) Mid or jungle has to ward that path.

2) Your jungler has to be prepared for a counter gank

3) You have to know where the enemy jungler is before pushing out like that or you have to be winning hard enough that you can turn and burst the jungler without losing the 3v2.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
May 20 2014 17:26 GMT
#2040
On May 21 2014 02:06 Simberto wrote:
So, assuming you are botlane, and you are blue side, and pushing.

How does one survive the gank where the enemy comes through your own jungle via mid? Especially early on you just can't ward against that. If you ward your own tribush you are still dead when you see the guy. If mid wards reasonably, you are fine, but mid never wards. If you walk and ward for mid you leave your ADC alone for 30+ seconds, which usually doesn't end well. I guess the solution is "don't push if you are on that side", but that usually means that you lose the lane anyways. Also hard to convince your ADC of that.

This is a problem i have had for quite i while. Usually it isn't that hard because for some utterly inexplicable reason junglers rarely gank via that path. No matter what i do, i can't come up with a solution that is better then "Mid has to ward that path", but that doesn't really help because that never happens.

Disclaimer: In the last month I have played a single game of blue side support (DuoQ with LPL All-Star Kyrie "Mejais SoulStealer" Clinic). It was at a glorious Gold 5-Gold 3 MMR.

1) If Mid wards that path then you are just fine

2) If you know their Jungler is not around then (is currently showing in top lane) you can do whatever the fuck you want

3) If your Jungler is around and you are pushing because you're stronger than their bot lane (either you chunked them with harass or they're just a weaker duo) then ping like crazy and it will be free triple kill

4) If the enemy bot lane is in a position where they can't aid a gank because they're pushed in to tower at half HP with two creep waves built up then you can still do whatever you want because you can just turn and kill their jungler 2v1 when he comes from behind

5) If its very likely that you're about to get double killed because they have a ganking jungler that hasn't shown anywhere and you're pushed up and guaranteed to lose the 2v3 even though you have the stronger creep wave (you got chunked low on HP; they have high HP and strong all-in/gank assist; the enemy jungler does massive DPS and you can't burst him down 2v1 before the enemy laners show up) then you should probably just play like bitches and stay out of range of the enemy duo engage so that you can navigate around the gank coming.
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