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Updated TL LoL policy in regards to the use of "lomo"

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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 20 2014 04:32 GMT
#1981
did some1 say rammus?

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/20313991#profile
I come in for the scraps
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 20 2014 04:33 GMT
#1982
On May 20 2014 13:30 Dark_Chill wrote:
I want Rammus back.
My first champion

i'm still salty about the fiddle and rammus nerfs. They weren't even fucking op'd (okay, rammus was a bit lulzy in solo queue). Then Riot was like "NAH. UNFUN MECHANICS" *releases shit like Braum and Yasuo that completely nullifies major ultis, and make ADC's do jack shit for like 5 seconds*.
liftlift > tsm
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
May 20 2014 04:52 GMT
#1983
My face when I tried to Ori ult into a Braum =\.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 20 2014 05:04 GMT
#1984
UnKooL doesnt even recognize me, whats the point of living anymore?
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
May 20 2014 05:22 GMT
#1985
On May 20 2014 13:10 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 13:01 Goumindong wrote:
On May 20 2014 10:48 RagequitBM wrote:
I think Karma and Morgana are the two best solo q supports right now. Usually have comparable damage to your mid laner. It's banay


If you learn when Morgana/Karma should be build as tanks instead of damage they get even stronger.


The tankiest I'll go on Karma is like sightstone, athene's, mikael's and locket. I much prefer the sightstone, athene's/morello, frost queen and liandry's route though.


For Karma don't underestimate the power of randuin's. Mainly you want to be tanking when their team has enough of a front line to stop your damage while your team is lighter on that front. But the power of being able to soak damage and the mantra w back to half HP is pretty amazing when you've got 3500 HP and 200 armor. When you need that extra beef in front of your carries never be afraid to get the big tank items.

For Morgana I like an early GA since dying with GA doesn't stop her ult and most people don't realize this but the standard tanky items work too.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 20 2014 05:28 GMT
#1986
On May 20 2014 11:34 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 11:31 GolemMadness wrote:
On May 20 2014 11:21 Sufficiency wrote:
On May 20 2014 11:14 GolemMadness wrote:
I feel like tier lists are for people who think that they're better than their elo and that they'd be diamond if they just knew about that one secret champion that they can use to hard carry all their noob teammates.


Stonewall. Secretly challenger stuck in plat elo hell?


Wait, doesn't this guy make a bunch of tier lists and videos and stuff? I just looked at his Youtube, and he's been making videos for 3 years. How is he still in platinum? Stuff like this confuses me.

This is where random people will come with claims of him being incredibly smart but just not having the mechanics to compete with these 14 year old robots.

Too bad this is a knowledge based game.....

Stonewall is a total fucking scrub and it felt really good to winstreak past him in my division because I have bad blood with that fucker over a girl a few years back LOL
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 20 2014 05:49 GMT
#1987
I wouldnt say a person is "stuck in plat" with less than 50 games in the tier lol
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
May 20 2014 06:05 GMT
#1988
Not sure who it is/was, but there was a rammus just duoing with Seraph a day or two.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11960 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 06:25:17
May 20 2014 06:23 GMT
#1989
On May 20 2014 12:59 GolemMadness wrote:
I wonder if there are any plans of adjusting the spirit items at all. Right now the approximate popularities in solo queue:

SotEL: 13%
SotAG: 4.3%
SotSW: 1.8%
Wriggles: 1.6%

Of course, this is largely just because of the meta of junglers we have. But with Riot always trying to make different kinds of junglers viable, I could see them maybe buffing golem and spectral wraith a bit. Elder lizard being nearly two times more popular than the other three items combined does seem a bit silly.


Wait, wriggles so low? Is FF in that statistic? Where are those numbers from?

Edit: Yeah ok, you might wanna add the 7% FF on there.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 07:07:20
May 20 2014 07:01 GMT
#1990
On May 20 2014 12:59 GolemMadness wrote:
I wonder if there are any plans of adjusting the spirit items at all. Right now the approximate popularities in solo queue:

SotEL: 13%
SotAG: 4.3%
SotSW: 1.8%
Wriggles: 1.6%

Of course, this is largely just because of the meta of junglers we have. But with Riot always trying to make different kinds of junglers viable, I could see them maybe buffing golem and spectral wraith a bit. Elder lizard being nearly two times more popular than the other three items combined does seem a bit silly.

Where do you pull these stats from? I'd like to see the same with only Diamond and Feral Flare included.

Edit: In Diamond:
Feral Flare: 6.48% pick rate 54.23% winrate
Wriggles: 0.70% 16.37%
SotEL: 18.47% 52.25%
SotAG: 3.53% 50.79%
SotSW: 1.55% 51.59% (note: winrate here fluctuates heavily)
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
May 20 2014 07:10 GMT
#1991
I assumed that logic would dictate that wriggles would be higher than feral, since it's kind of a prerequisite. I guess it only counts items you have at the end of the game though.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
May 20 2014 07:17 GMT
#1992
On May 20 2014 16:10 GolemMadness wrote:
I assumed that logic would dictate that wriggles would be higher than feral, since it's kind of a prerequisite. I guess it only counts items you have at the end of the game though.

Yup, it does. That also explains the low winrate for wriggles because if you win you have Feral completed most of the time.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
May 20 2014 07:30 GMT
#1993
Lina is dumb anyway. Fire based skills with an ult that is a.... lightning bolt. Of course.

On May 20 2014 13:01 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 10:48 RagequitBM wrote:
I think Karma and Morgana are the two best solo q supports right now. Usually have comparable damage to your mid laner. It's banay


If you learn when Morgana/Karma should be build as tanks instead of damage they get even stronger.

I can see Morg going full CDR tank at times. Bind all day and not die during ult is appealing if your team needs a beefier frontline, but I don't understand tank Karma. You want to build some AP. Your whole deal in teamfights is an AOE shield, which you want to be as strong as possible. How does being a tank help that?
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
May 20 2014 07:35 GMT
#1994
On May 20 2014 16:30 JazzVortical wrote:
Lina is dumb anyway. Fire based skills with an ult that is a.... lightning bolt. Of course.

The Last Airbender reference obviously.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
May 20 2014 07:58 GMT
#1995
On May 20 2014 16:30 JazzVortical wrote:
Lina is dumb anyway. Fire based skills with an ult that is a.... lightning bolt. Of course.

Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 13:01 Goumindong wrote:
On May 20 2014 10:48 RagequitBM wrote:
I think Karma and Morgana are the two best solo q supports right now. Usually have comparable damage to your mid laner. It's banay


If you learn when Morgana/Karma should be build as tanks instead of damage they get even stronger.

I can see Morg going full CDR tank at times. Bind all day and not die during ult is appealing if your team needs a beefier frontline, but I don't understand tank Karma. You want to build some AP. Your whole deal in teamfights is an AOE shield, which you want to be as strong as possible. How does being a tank help that?


If you're able to soak up damage through a tank item, it'll do more than AP for your shield ever will. Also, you're a support, so it's not like you're able to build a ton of AP. The reason for building AP items is for their other stats (CDR, liandry's passive, maybe twin shadows).
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
May 20 2014 08:50 GMT
#1996
I'm so psyched. Fixed my PC so I might actually be able to play games again instead of only doing arams or vs AI. Need a new mouse, but one thing at a time I suppose.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 09:12:53
May 20 2014 08:58 GMT
#1997
Yeah, CDR's Karma primary stat, although I guess tankiness makes sense: more resilience means more liberty to stand closer to the fight, to get W's root off or auto people and significantly reduce the cooldown on her Mantra. Morello could still make sense if the enemy has heavy sustain thanks to her low cooldown on Inner Flame.

On May 20 2014 11:06 Anakko wrote:
I'm learning Annie supp atm (kinda late to the party I know). Well she's still pretty bonkers too...

I've seen one Annie two days ago (who dumpstered Draven so hard he ranted about her stun being OP and denied that it was nerfed in the early game recently) but apart from tha she's always been a very rare pick in my games, even while she remained popular, after the fad from s3 Worlds. Not sure why she seemed to disappear from soloQ like that, especially when Leona is so popular for the sake of initiation. Are people seeing a bunch of her?

I've also started to see more Jayce. I'm not sure why since he didn't appear in competitive games (I've yet to see any MF though) but I guess it makes sense when other champions like Ryze, Kayle, Soraka, etc. are showing themselves in the top lane (and how he just bullies and laughs at Shyvana, Renekton, etc. he beats Jax too at least early but Jax's always banned, what's a bit more surprising is that he's supposed to lose to Irelia who was getting popular).
Any other trends starting to form?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
May 20 2014 09:04 GMT
#1998
Support Gragas and support Velkoz has been showing up from time to time, though Thresh/Morg still being top contenders (braum banned all day yo). I like da support gragas, he counters so many junglers wtf.
hi
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 20 2014 09:39 GMT
#1999
Support grag is pretty legit, lots of potential for outplay now that E is a mini stun instead of a slow
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
May 20 2014 09:57 GMT
#2000
Oh noes, our forums just got moved :\
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