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Updated TL LoL policy in regards to the use of "lomo"

In regards to theorycrafting and hyperbole, please have firsthand experience of the scenario before giving your input

Future of TL LoL, post Liquid`Dota standalone site
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
May 19 2014 23:46 GMT
#1941
On May 20 2014 08:39 FinestHour wrote:
havent played games in more then 2 weeks log on chat restricted
wat do

People who got reported on to tribunal will get chat restricted. It's sort of like automute in dota2.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
May 19 2014 23:47 GMT
#1942
On May 20 2014 08:46 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i'm amazed at how this subforum as a whole never gets tired of the whine -> real talk -> whine cycle.

where else would we go?
every other LoL subcommunity i've seen in the last 5 years has been much worse than here
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-19 23:51:33
May 19 2014 23:49 GMT
#1943
On May 20 2014 08:32 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 05:27 Ryuu314 wrote:
On May 20 2014 05:25 Diamond wrote:
Tier lists are so weird, RoG/Stonewall has Zac listed as a T1 AP Damage jungle (what?) and a T1 tank jungle. Did I miss something recently?

Stonewall's an idiot and his jungle tier list are completely irrelevant and useless.

My guess on what people really mean when they say "bad at carrying" is rather "bad at teamfighting" and/or "bad at making lategame decisions."

Pretty sure the only time tier lists were relevant was like pre s1.
they're beyond stupid and worthless now

I'm completely blown away by the fact that none of the League news sites have a competitive tier list that's completely objective. IE, based off of competitive pick trends with the ONLY criteria for rating them being pick/ban rate, weighted by win rate.

I'd argue that objective tier lists can be useful for the spectator or the very competitive in order to track and keep up with current competitive trends. It's also pretty neat information to know. Stuff like this.

Unfortunately, every single tier list I can find are full of subjective and/or completely useless crap like Stonewall's jungle tier list where he uses metrics like how fast a champion goldfishes.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 19 2014 23:59 GMT
#1944
On May 20 2014 08:49 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 08:32 arb wrote:
On May 20 2014 05:27 Ryuu314 wrote:
On May 20 2014 05:25 Diamond wrote:
Tier lists are so weird, RoG/Stonewall has Zac listed as a T1 AP Damage jungle (what?) and a T1 tank jungle. Did I miss something recently?

Stonewall's an idiot and his jungle tier list are completely irrelevant and useless.

My guess on what people really mean when they say "bad at carrying" is rather "bad at teamfighting" and/or "bad at making lategame decisions."

Pretty sure the only time tier lists were relevant was like pre s1.
they're beyond stupid and worthless now

I'm completely blown away by the fact that none of the League news sites have a competitive tier list that's completely objective. IE, based off of competitive pick trends with the ONLY criteria for rating them being pick/ban rate, weighted by win rate.

I'd argue that objective tier lists can be useful for the spectator or the very competitive in order to track and keep up with current competitive trends. It's also pretty neat information to know. Stuff like this.

Unfortunately, every single tier list I can find are full of subjective and/or completely useless crap like Stonewall's jungle tier list where he uses metrics like how fast a champion goldfishes.


Damn
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23349 Posts
May 20 2014 00:01 GMT
#1945
LOL
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 20 2014 00:03 GMT
#1946
Oh man Lina is all the way at the bottom lol.

My experience with DotA was limited, but Lina was like the only hero I knew how to play....

Just do some simple math factoring in magic resistance, then go in and zap people. Oh the fun times.

I am under no illusion that her kit would actually be viable in anything that is even remotely competitive.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 20 2014 00:03 GMT
#1947
I feel like some one said skarner a while back

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/27380811

let the trollerino begin
I come in for the scraps
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23349 Posts
May 20 2014 00:04 GMT
#1948
skarjoelhansson
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 20 2014 00:06 GMT
#1949
AP Skarner OP.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
May 20 2014 00:07 GMT
#1950
On May 20 2014 08:46 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i'm amazed at how this subforum as a whole never gets tired of the whine -> real talk -> whine cycle.

it used to be whine -> realtalk-> OT -> whine, but now one part of the chain was moved to a diferent thread.
This is why we should have the "bly monument of real talk" topic but people think it will be too toxic (of course it will, just man up).
That way we can finally break the cycle and reach the ideal GD state, whine -> whine -> whine. It will be called the Valhalol and it will be glorious
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 20 2014 00:11 GMT
#1951
On May 20 2014 09:03 Sufficiency wrote:
Oh man Lina is all the way at the bottom lol.

My experience with DotA was limited, but Lina was like the only hero I knew how to play....

Just do some simple math factoring in magic resistance, then go in and zap people. Oh the fun times.

I am under no illusion that her kit would actually be viable in anything that is even remotely competitive.

She was actually a strong competitive support for a long time, just the game currently has shifted away from playstyles which are comfortable for her.
Moderator
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 20 2014 00:13 GMT
#1952
On May 20 2014 09:11 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 09:03 Sufficiency wrote:
Oh man Lina is all the way at the bottom lol.

My experience with DotA was limited, but Lina was like the only hero I knew how to play....

Just do some simple math factoring in magic resistance, then go in and zap people. Oh the fun times.

I am under no illusion that her kit would actually be viable in anything that is even remotely competitive.

She was actually a strong competitive support for a long time, just the game currently has shifted away from playstyles which are comfortable for her.


That's actually interesting, because I thought her kit was too bland (beside her W which is a short aoe stun) to be played semi-seriously.

Goes to show how much I know about DotA.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
May 20 2014 00:17 GMT
#1953
On May 20 2014 09:13 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 09:11 TheYango wrote:
On May 20 2014 09:03 Sufficiency wrote:
Oh man Lina is all the way at the bottom lol.

My experience with DotA was limited, but Lina was like the only hero I knew how to play....

Just do some simple math factoring in magic resistance, then go in and zap people. Oh the fun times.

I am under no illusion that her kit would actually be viable in anything that is even remotely competitive.

She was actually a strong competitive support for a long time, just the game currently has shifted away from playstyles which are comfortable for her.


That's actually interesting, because I thought her kit was too bland (beside her W which is a short aoe stun) to be played semi-seriously.

Goes to show how much I know about DotA.

if it makes you feel better the only dota hero i can stand playing/play well is tidehunter
:<
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 20 2014 00:43 GMT
#1954
On May 20 2014 08:46 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i'm amazed at how this subforum as a whole never gets tired of the whine -> real talk -> whine cycle.

There will be more real talk and less whining really soon™.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 01:06:31
May 20 2014 01:04 GMT
#1955
On May 20 2014 09:11 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 09:03 Sufficiency wrote:
Oh man Lina is all the way at the bottom lol.

My experience with DotA was limited, but Lina was like the only hero I knew how to play....

Just do some simple math factoring in magic resistance, then go in and zap people. Oh the fun times.

I am under no illusion that her kit would actually be viable in anything that is even remotely competitive.

She was actually a strong competitive support for a long time, just the game currently has shifted away from playstyles which are comfortable for her.


Actually I had a question about this if you are still around, with SD being so popular right now why don't we see Lina more often for the Disrupion +Sunstrike combo?

(I also like to play her on Drow teams)
Carrilord has arrived.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 01:10:21
May 20 2014 01:09 GMT
#1956
On May 20 2014 09:17 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 09:13 Sufficiency wrote:
On May 20 2014 09:11 TheYango wrote:
On May 20 2014 09:03 Sufficiency wrote:
Oh man Lina is all the way at the bottom lol.

My experience with DotA was limited, but Lina was like the only hero I knew how to play....

Just do some simple math factoring in magic resistance, then go in and zap people. Oh the fun times.

I am under no illusion that her kit would actually be viable in anything that is even remotely competitive.

She was actually a strong competitive support for a long time, just the game currently has shifted away from playstyles which are comfortable for her.


That's actually interesting, because I thought her kit was too bland (beside her W which is a short aoe stun) to be played semi-seriously.

Goes to show how much I know about DotA.

if it makes you feel better the only dota hero i can stand playing/play well is tidehunter
:<

tidehunter is arguably a top tier pick as an offlaner now after the 6.81 changes. His E reduces enemy attack damage by 60% and it works on ancients. 6.81 basically made an already very hard to kill hero even harder to kill plus gave him a way to reliably catch up/get farm via ancient stacking.
On May 20 2014 10:04 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 09:11 TheYango wrote:
On May 20 2014 09:03 Sufficiency wrote:
Oh man Lina is all the way at the bottom lol.

My experience with DotA was limited, but Lina was like the only hero I knew how to play....

Just do some simple math factoring in magic resistance, then go in and zap people. Oh the fun times.

I am under no illusion that her kit would actually be viable in anything that is even remotely competitive.

She was actually a strong competitive support for a long time, just the game currently has shifted away from playstyles which are comfortable for her.


Actually I had a question about this if you are still around, with SD being so popular right now why don't we see Lina more often for the Disrupion +Sunstrike combo?

(I also like to play her on Drow teams)

probably cause mirana is arguably more useful and she also combos with SD very well. Lina has other issues that make her unfavorable atm.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 01:10:59
May 20 2014 01:10 GMT
#1957
sunstrike is invoker's EEE spell. if you're referring to lina's w, there are many other strong single target stuns that benefit more from the setup that shadow demon's disruption provides offensively (e.g. mirana's arrow).
Hey! Listen!
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
May 20 2014 01:16 GMT
#1958
On May 20 2014 10:04 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 09:11 TheYango wrote:
On May 20 2014 09:03 Sufficiency wrote:
Oh man Lina is all the way at the bottom lol.

My experience with DotA was limited, but Lina was like the only hero I knew how to play....

Just do some simple math factoring in magic resistance, then go in and zap people. Oh the fun times.

I am under no illusion that her kit would actually be viable in anything that is even remotely competitive.

She was actually a strong competitive support for a long time, just the game currently has shifted away from playstyles which are comfortable for her.


Actually I had a question about this if you are still around, with SD being so popular right now why don't we see Lina more often for the Disrupion +Sunstrike combo?

(I also like to play her on Drow teams)


LSA isn't the best spell to use an SD setup for, even amongst supports, plus she's competing with supports entire kits and not just a setup off of SD in tri-lanes.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 01:33:49
May 20 2014 01:33 GMT
#1959
max atk speed carry Lina is the way to go obviously. Only noobs play support Lina.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
May 20 2014 01:34 GMT
#1960
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