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Updated TL LoL policy in regards to the use of "lomo"

In regards to theorycrafting and hyperbole, please have firsthand experience of the scenario before giving your input

Future of TL LoL, post Liquid`Dota standalone site
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 19 2014 21:50 GMT
#1921
Well the second could be just having a shit team at sieging and being vs ziggs/thresh/cait or something like that.Requires a lot more coordination to push through than to just hold.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
May 19 2014 21:53 GMT
#1922
On May 20 2014 06:34 AsnSensation wrote:
So seems like NiP is already a cut above the rest of the challenger scene after adding 2 completely new players to their roster not even 2 weeks ago. Well I guess having Alex, who's a proven beast and K0u, the best rookie jungler kinda helps in that regard.

that's unsurprising to me. the gap between LCS quality teams and challenger teams is huge. NiP is definitely LCS quality and Alex is easily one of the best mids in EU with extensive experience at the highest level of play.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4123 Posts
May 19 2014 21:54 GMT
#1923
On May 20 2014 06:50 nafta wrote:
Well the second could be just having a shit team at sieging and being vs ziggs/thresh/cait or something like that.Requires a lot more coordination to push through than to just hold.

Most of the time those guys will still go outside their base and then you kill them and get an inhib anyways.
Even in LCS people do that shit.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 19 2014 22:01 GMT
#1924


How long has Shen being disabled now?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-19 22:40:11
May 19 2014 22:02 GMT
#1925
+ Show Spoiler [Solo Mid Invitational Finals Spolier] +
NiP won 3-0 vs Gamers2!
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
May 19 2014 22:16 GMT
#1926
On May 20 2014 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
NiP won 3-0 vs Gamers2 in Solo mid invitational

It helps if you say what the spoiler tag is for, so people know whether they can click it or not~
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 19 2014 22:41 GMT
#1927
On May 20 2014 07:16 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
NiP won 3-0 vs Gamers2 in Solo mid invitational

It helps if you say what the spoiler tag is for, so people know whether they can click it or not~

I thought there was a discussion on that tournament that's all :|
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
May 19 2014 22:55 GMT
#1928
--- Nuked ---
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
May 19 2014 22:57 GMT
#1929
sounds lkie he just goes all in a lot more and you play safe
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 19 2014 23:02 GMT
#1930
On May 20 2014 06:46 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 06:43 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Lots of people don't know how to close out games and that's their biggest weakness. Instead of going for inhib #2 or ending when they have a chance they go and do whatever else it is they feel like doing because they don't see the checkmate and then end up losing when the 0-10 vayne on the other team reaches 200 farm and gets a penta.

There are two different kinds of "10-0 carry-the-game" kinds of scenarios here that I don't think people are specifying.

There's the "I'm 10-0 but the rest of my team's tempo is shit so I'm doing well but we're not winning". And there's the "I'm 10-0 and our whole team is doing well but we can't actually break base and win the game".

You're right, but my point is that basically all scenarios in League can be thought of as a practical extension of basic game sense. It's not hard to understand the basics of this game and they will carry you very far. In fact I'd say the upper limit of where you can climb in the ladder almost perfectly correlates to how well you understand the game.

All of the other stuff that's not basic game sense comes into play at the pro/team level where you're thinking about the meta-game (and I mean that in the denotative sense). Literally thinking about the game of playing the game. That's well above and beyond soloqueue. Soloqueue is nearly 100% about basic game sense.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 19 2014 23:05 GMT
#1931
On May 20 2014 08:02 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
You're right, but my point is that basically all scenarios in League can be thought of as a practical extension of basic game sense.

So basically we're saying the same thing.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
May 19 2014 23:09 GMT
#1932
Been playing on my smurf recently in high gold/low plat, and people have no idea how to end games. No concept of keeping waves pushed, pressuring areas of the map, how to split, get picks, etc. If it's anything other than "Group and push mid" they just seem lost. Just these relatively simple things go so far.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 19 2014 23:16 GMT
#1933
On May 20 2014 08:05 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 08:02 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
You're right, but my point is that basically all scenarios in League can be thought of as a practical extension of basic game sense.

So basically we're saying the same thing.

I wasn't aware your initial quoting of my post was an agreement with what I said. That wasn't so clear to me by the content of it, I apologize if we were saying the same thing without me knowing it.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 19 2014 23:20 GMT
#1934
I honestly cannot think of a more ridiculous discussion.

The last 5 pages is essentially "macro harder, micro faster".
Freeeeeeedom
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
May 19 2014 23:26 GMT
#1935
On May 20 2014 08:20 cLutZ wrote:
I honestly cannot think of a more ridiculous discussion.

The last 5 pages is essentially "macro harder, micro faster".


not quite
pretty good discussion about how the game works and how to approach doing well in a game

actually probably the most important discussion we've had in forever when it comes to improving your game
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
May 19 2014 23:32 GMT
#1936
On May 20 2014 05:27 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 05:25 Diamond wrote:
Tier lists are so weird, RoG/Stonewall has Zac listed as a T1 AP Damage jungle (what?) and a T1 tank jungle. Did I miss something recently?

Stonewall's an idiot and his jungle tier list are completely irrelevant and useless.

My guess on what people really mean when they say "bad at carrying" is rather "bad at teamfighting" and/or "bad at making lategame decisions."

Pretty sure the only time tier lists were relevant was like pre s1.
they're beyond stupid and worthless now
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-19 23:39:37
May 19 2014 23:39 GMT
#1937
havent played games in more then 2 weeks log on chat restricted
wat do
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 19 2014 23:41 GMT
#1938
On May 20 2014 08:39 FinestHour wrote:
havent played games in more then 2 weeks log on chat restricted
wat do

Instal curse voice so you can flame your team anyway.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-19 23:43:39
May 19 2014 23:43 GMT
#1939
His tierlist has so much "information" that it's useless.

I rather see a chart of win rate per champion for the league I am playing in.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 19 2014 23:46 GMT
#1940
i'm amazed at how this subforum as a whole never gets tired of the whine -> real talk -> whine cycle.
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