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Updated TL LoL policy in regards to the use of "lomo"

In regards to theorycrafting and hyperbole, please have firsthand experience of the scenario before giving your input

Future of TL LoL, post Liquid`Dota standalone site
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 20 2014 01:36 GMT
#1961
On May 20 2014 10:33 canikizu wrote:
max atk speed carry Lina is the way to go obviously. Only noobs play support Lina.


Zapping people is the most fun part of playing her.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
May 20 2014 01:48 GMT
#1962
I think Karma and Morgana are the two best solo q supports right now. Usually have comparable damage to your mid laner. It's banay
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
May 20 2014 02:06 GMT
#1963
I'm learning Annie supp atm (kinda late to the party I know). Well she's still pretty bonkers too...
TrAce/Cpt Jack for president (or both)
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
May 20 2014 02:14 GMT
#1964
I feel like tier lists are for people who think that they're better than their elo and that they'd be diamond if they just knew about that one secret champion that they can use to hard carry all their noob teammates.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
May 20 2014 02:15 GMT
#1965
On May 20 2014 09:43 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 08:46 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i'm amazed at how this subforum as a whole never gets tired of the whine -> real talk -> whine cycle.

There will be more real talk and less whining really soon™.

really soon as in "let me ban ketara real quick... there, done"?
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 20 2014 02:21 GMT
#1966
On May 20 2014 11:14 GolemMadness wrote:
I feel like tier lists are for people who think that they're better than their elo and that they'd be diamond if they just knew about that one secret champion that they can use to hard carry all their noob teammates.


Stonewall. Secretly challenger stuck in plat elo hell?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
May 20 2014 02:31 GMT
#1967
On May 20 2014 11:21 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 11:14 GolemMadness wrote:
I feel like tier lists are for people who think that they're better than their elo and that they'd be diamond if they just knew about that one secret champion that they can use to hard carry all their noob teammates.


Stonewall. Secretly challenger stuck in plat elo hell?


Wait, doesn't this guy make a bunch of tier lists and videos and stuff? I just looked at his Youtube, and he's been making videos for 3 years. How is he still in platinum? Stuff like this confuses me.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 20 2014 02:34 GMT
#1968
On May 20 2014 11:31 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 11:21 Sufficiency wrote:
On May 20 2014 11:14 GolemMadness wrote:
I feel like tier lists are for people who think that they're better than their elo and that they'd be diamond if they just knew about that one secret champion that they can use to hard carry all their noob teammates.


Stonewall. Secretly challenger stuck in plat elo hell?


Wait, doesn't this guy make a bunch of tier lists and videos and stuff? I just looked at his Youtube, and he's been making videos for 3 years. How is he still in platinum? Stuff like this confuses me.

This is where random people will come with claims of him being incredibly smart but just not having the mechanics to compete with these 14 year old robots.

Too bad this is a knowledge based game.....
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 02:51:21
May 20 2014 02:47 GMT
#1969
On May 20 2014 11:31 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 11:21 Sufficiency wrote:
On May 20 2014 11:14 GolemMadness wrote:
I feel like tier lists are for people who think that they're better than their elo and that they'd be diamond if they just knew about that one secret champion that they can use to hard carry all their noob teammates.


Stonewall. Secretly challenger stuck in plat elo hell?


Wait, doesn't this guy make a bunch of tier lists and videos and stuff? I just looked at his Youtube, and he's been making videos for 3 years. How is he still in platinum? Stuff like this confuses me.


Is this him? Plat 2

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/108613

Looks from his Player ID this is a really old account. He has probably being playing this game forever.

Wait a second. Does this guy even play soloQ?

He has 2k+ normal wins, but he got only 25 wins for Season 4 soloQ. His ranked history across all seasons is probably around 400, most of which played in Season 2.

Looks to me he does not really play ranked at all.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 02:59:45
May 20 2014 02:59 GMT
#1970
He plays high elo normals with better players who carry him and they take it as seriously as LCS qualifiers. I totally get you're supposed to try hard when invited to a normal with a new group but that dude takes it way too seriously. The TL LoL group back in the day with vowels/milo, etc have dumped on him a couple of times iirc.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 20 2014 03:47 GMT
#1971
On May 20 2014 09:43 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 08:46 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i'm amazed at how this subforum as a whole never gets tired of the whine -> real talk -> whine cycle.

There will be more real talk and less whining really soon™.


Why?

The real talk is just whining by a different subset of players who are whining about whining. Unless you make a rule that is basically "GD is about discussing the balance of LOL for progames only, all soloqueue discussion is banned."

Freeeeeeedom
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 03:53:07
May 20 2014 03:48 GMT
#1972
nevermind
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 20 2014 03:58 GMT
#1973
The problem with tierlist that stonewall makes is he tries to rank the shitty stuff. Just put out 'these 5 champs are a tier above others' the rest are niche picks.
liftlift > tsm
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
May 20 2014 03:59 GMT
#1974
I wonder if there are any plans of adjusting the spirit items at all. Right now the approximate popularities in solo queue:

SotEL: 13%
SotAG: 4.3%
SotSW: 1.8%
Wriggles: 1.6%

Of course, this is largely just because of the meta of junglers we have. But with Riot always trying to make different kinds of junglers viable, I could see them maybe buffing golem and spectral wraith a bit. Elder lizard being nearly two times more popular than the other three items combined does seem a bit silly.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
May 20 2014 04:01 GMT
#1975
On May 20 2014 10:48 RagequitBM wrote:
I think Karma and Morgana are the two best solo q supports right now. Usually have comparable damage to your mid laner. It's banay


If you learn when Morgana/Karma should be build as tanks instead of damage they get even stronger.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
May 20 2014 04:06 GMT
#1976
On May 20 2014 12:58 wei2coolman wrote:
The problem with tierlist that stonewall makes is he tries to rank the shitty stuff. Just put out 'these 5 champs are a tier above others' the rest are niche picks.


What I find strange is all the different categories. Take a champion like Jarvan. He's tier 3 support, tier 1 tank, tier 3 bruiser and tier 2 fighter. But then Nasus is tier 1 support, tier 3 tank and tier 2 bruiser. But Zac is tier 1 magic damage and tier 1 tank. I mean, what information are you supposed to garner from this? Why isn't there an overall tier list? Why are Gragas and Zac so highly rated? SO MANY QUESTIONS.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
May 20 2014 04:10 GMT
#1977
everyone knows best defense is good offense
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
May 20 2014 04:10 GMT
#1978
On May 20 2014 13:01 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 10:48 RagequitBM wrote:
I think Karma and Morgana are the two best solo q supports right now. Usually have comparable damage to your mid laner. It's banay


If you learn when Morgana/Karma should be build as tanks instead of damage they get even stronger.


The tankiest I'll go on Karma is like sightstone, athene's, mikael's and locket. I much prefer the sightstone, athene's/morello, frost queen and liandry's route though.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 04:25:11
May 20 2014 04:24 GMT
#1979
On May 20 2014 12:59 GolemMadness wrote:
I wonder if there are any plans of adjusting the spirit items at all. Right now the approximate popularities in solo queue:

SotEL: 13%
SotAG: 4.3%
SotSW: 1.8%
Wriggles: 1.6%

Of course, this is largely just because of the meta of junglers we have. But with Riot always trying to make different kinds of junglers viable, I could see them maybe buffing golem and spectral wraith a bit. Elder lizard being nearly two times more popular than the other three items combined does seem a bit silly.

That has more to do with the nature of the type of champions that are popular, and less so the item choices. Unless you tremendously bough SotAG to insane levels, shit like Maokai jungle still isn't going to happen.

On May 20 2014 13:06 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 12:58 wei2coolman wrote:
The problem with tierlist that stonewall makes is he tries to rank the shitty stuff. Just put out 'these 5 champs are a tier above others' the rest are niche picks.


What I find strange is all the different categories. Take a champion like Jarvan. He's tier 3 support, tier 1 tank, tier 3 bruiser and tier 2 fighter. But then Nasus is tier 1 support, tier 3 tank and tier 2 bruiser. But Zac is tier 1 magic damage and tier 1 tank. I mean, what information are you supposed to garner from this? Why isn't there an overall tier list? Why are Gragas and Zac so highly rated? SO MANY QUESTIONS.

People who use tier lists are those looking for FotM op's, there's no point in trying to rank anything below the first 2 tiers anyways.
liftlift > tsm
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
May 20 2014 04:30 GMT
#1980
I want Rammus back.
My first champion
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
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