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On May 20 2014 10:33 canikizu wrote: max atk speed carry Lina is the way to go obviously. Only noobs play support Lina.
Zapping people is the most fun part of playing her.
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I think Karma and Morgana are the two best solo q supports right now. Usually have comparable damage to your mid laner. It's banay
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I'm learning Annie supp atm (kinda late to the party I know). Well she's still pretty bonkers too...
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I feel like tier lists are for people who think that they're better than their elo and that they'd be diamond if they just knew about that one secret champion that they can use to hard carry all their noob teammates.
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On May 20 2014 09:43 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2014 08:46 zulu_nation8 wrote: i'm amazed at how this subforum as a whole never gets tired of the whine -> real talk -> whine cycle. There will be more real talk and less whining really soon™. really soon as in "let me ban ketara real quick... there, done"?
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On May 20 2014 11:14 GolemMadness wrote: I feel like tier lists are for people who think that they're better than their elo and that they'd be diamond if they just knew about that one secret champion that they can use to hard carry all their noob teammates.
Stonewall. Secretly challenger stuck in plat elo hell?
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On May 20 2014 11:21 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2014 11:14 GolemMadness wrote: I feel like tier lists are for people who think that they're better than their elo and that they'd be diamond if they just knew about that one secret champion that they can use to hard carry all their noob teammates. Stonewall. Secretly challenger stuck in plat elo hell?
Wait, doesn't this guy make a bunch of tier lists and videos and stuff? I just looked at his Youtube, and he's been making videos for 3 years. How is he still in platinum? Stuff like this confuses me.
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On May 20 2014 11:31 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2014 11:21 Sufficiency wrote:On May 20 2014 11:14 GolemMadness wrote: I feel like tier lists are for people who think that they're better than their elo and that they'd be diamond if they just knew about that one secret champion that they can use to hard carry all their noob teammates. Stonewall. Secretly challenger stuck in plat elo hell? Wait, doesn't this guy make a bunch of tier lists and videos and stuff? I just looked at his Youtube, and he's been making videos for 3 years. How is he still in platinum? Stuff like this confuses me. This is where random people will come with claims of him being incredibly smart but just not having the mechanics to compete with these 14 year old robots.
Too bad this is a knowledge based game.....
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On May 20 2014 11:31 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2014 11:21 Sufficiency wrote:On May 20 2014 11:14 GolemMadness wrote: I feel like tier lists are for people who think that they're better than their elo and that they'd be diamond if they just knew about that one secret champion that they can use to hard carry all their noob teammates. Stonewall. Secretly challenger stuck in plat elo hell? Wait, doesn't this guy make a bunch of tier lists and videos and stuff? I just looked at his Youtube, and he's been making videos for 3 years. How is he still in platinum? Stuff like this confuses me.
Is this him? Plat 2
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/108613
Looks from his Player ID this is a really old account. He has probably being playing this game forever.
Wait a second. Does this guy even play soloQ?
He has 2k+ normal wins, but he got only 25 wins for Season 4 soloQ. His ranked history across all seasons is probably around 400, most of which played in Season 2.
Looks to me he does not really play ranked at all.
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He plays high elo normals with better players who carry him and they take it as seriously as LCS qualifiers. I totally get you're supposed to try hard when invited to a normal with a new group but that dude takes it way too seriously. The TL LoL group back in the day with vowels/milo, etc have dumped on him a couple of times iirc.
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On May 20 2014 09:43 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2014 08:46 zulu_nation8 wrote: i'm amazed at how this subforum as a whole never gets tired of the whine -> real talk -> whine cycle. There will be more real talk and less whining really soon™.
Why?
The real talk is just whining by a different subset of players who are whining about whining. Unless you make a rule that is basically "GD is about discussing the balance of LOL for progames only, all soloqueue discussion is banned."
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The problem with tierlist that stonewall makes is he tries to rank the shitty stuff. Just put out 'these 5 champs are a tier above others' the rest are niche picks.
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I wonder if there are any plans of adjusting the spirit items at all. Right now the approximate popularities in solo queue:
SotEL: 13% SotAG: 4.3% SotSW: 1.8% Wriggles: 1.6%
Of course, this is largely just because of the meta of junglers we have. But with Riot always trying to make different kinds of junglers viable, I could see them maybe buffing golem and spectral wraith a bit. Elder lizard being nearly two times more popular than the other three items combined does seem a bit silly.
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On May 20 2014 10:48 RagequitBM wrote: I think Karma and Morgana are the two best solo q supports right now. Usually have comparable damage to your mid laner. It's banay
If you learn when Morgana/Karma should be build as tanks instead of damage they get even stronger.
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On May 20 2014 12:58 wei2coolman wrote: The problem with tierlist that stonewall makes is he tries to rank the shitty stuff. Just put out 'these 5 champs are a tier above others' the rest are niche picks.
What I find strange is all the different categories. Take a champion like Jarvan. He's tier 3 support, tier 1 tank, tier 3 bruiser and tier 2 fighter. But then Nasus is tier 1 support, tier 3 tank and tier 2 bruiser. But Zac is tier 1 magic damage and tier 1 tank. I mean, what information are you supposed to garner from this? Why isn't there an overall tier list? Why are Gragas and Zac so highly rated? SO MANY QUESTIONS.
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everyone knows best defense is good offense
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On May 20 2014 13:01 Goumindong wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2014 10:48 RagequitBM wrote: I think Karma and Morgana are the two best solo q supports right now. Usually have comparable damage to your mid laner. It's banay If you learn when Morgana/Karma should be build as tanks instead of damage they get even stronger.
The tankiest I'll go on Karma is like sightstone, athene's, mikael's and locket. I much prefer the sightstone, athene's/morello, frost queen and liandry's route though.
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On May 20 2014 12:59 GolemMadness wrote: I wonder if there are any plans of adjusting the spirit items at all. Right now the approximate popularities in solo queue:
SotEL: 13% SotAG: 4.3% SotSW: 1.8% Wriggles: 1.6%
Of course, this is largely just because of the meta of junglers we have. But with Riot always trying to make different kinds of junglers viable, I could see them maybe buffing golem and spectral wraith a bit. Elder lizard being nearly two times more popular than the other three items combined does seem a bit silly. That has more to do with the nature of the type of champions that are popular, and less so the item choices. Unless you tremendously bough SotAG to insane levels, shit like Maokai jungle still isn't going to happen.
On May 20 2014 13:06 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2014 12:58 wei2coolman wrote: The problem with tierlist that stonewall makes is he tries to rank the shitty stuff. Just put out 'these 5 champs are a tier above others' the rest are niche picks. What I find strange is all the different categories. Take a champion like Jarvan. He's tier 3 support, tier 1 tank, tier 3 bruiser and tier 2 fighter. But then Nasus is tier 1 support, tier 3 tank and tier 2 bruiser. But Zac is tier 1 magic damage and tier 1 tank. I mean, what information are you supposed to garner from this? Why isn't there an overall tier list? Why are Gragas and Zac so highly rated? SO MANY QUESTIONS. People who use tier lists are those looking for FotM op's, there's no point in trying to rank anything below the first 2 tiers anyways.
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I want Rammus back. My first champion
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