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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 17 2014 00:45 GMT
#1841
i get that most league players emphasize maining only 1 or 2 characters and roles but amumu and katarina are so insanely team reliant id imagine you have been frustrated many times by an unresponsive team when you get a money ult or other related situations and u get no followup and hair pulling commences
definitely recommend learning some strong top laners that can just split push literally all day and force 2-3 people to stop you, even the dumbest of teams can react off th
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 17 2014 01:10 GMT
#1842
I don't think they are actually that team reliant, beyond basic stuff like not getting caught (which is universal).
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
April 17 2014 01:37 GMT
#1843
On April 17 2014 09:07 Sufficiency wrote:
Now I am sure if you are diamond you will make the same argument about me, and that's fine. But it feels so frustrating to play at gold 5 on my smurf because when I make calls my teammates either:

1. Do not listen. Because they rather sit idly and do nothing instead of taking the advantage of seeing two opposing players at bot and take baron.
2. Listen, but executes very badly. Because they do not know how to properly bait/towerdive/etc.

At the end of the day, it's still my fault. Beyong playing Katarina and Amumu, I am not really good at other champions (I think I am decent at TF, but TF is still a bit weak and I am rusty). I also play too conservatively and often do not carry very hard (again, unless I am playing things like Katarina). I think if I can get to plat 5 on my smurf without playing those 2 champions, it would be a huge achievement for me... I am not sure how long it'll take though.

Eyyy I play Katarina and Amumu as my mains (:
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
April 17 2014 01:49 GMT
#1844
On April 17 2014 09:45 FinestHour wrote:
i get that most league players emphasize maining only 1 or 2 characters and roles but amumu and katarina are so insanely team reliant id imagine you have been frustrated many times by an unresponsive team when you get a money ult or other related situations and u get no followup and hair pulling commences
definitely recommend learning some strong top laners that can just split push literally all day and force 2-3 people to stop you, even the dumbest of teams can react off th



Haha...I wish
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 17 2014 02:17 GMT
#1845
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 17 2014 02:35 GMT
#1846
I wish people would build Athene's more often on Twisted Fate. It's actually a decent item on him (currently I like it as a second item). You don't need to build it every single game, but I think it's a good consideration especially when your team has weak engage and you need to be able to poke.


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Yes, you, cowTard. Void Staff was a terrible second item on Twisted Fate. In fact, you had very little mana at almost every single point of the game. Sometimes you couldn't even do a QW combo after R.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
April 17 2014 02:35 GMT
#1847
I find people will most of the time chill on that if you ping a line of "OMW"s down one of the other lanes. Draw the line for them to follow.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 17 2014 02:46 GMT
#1848
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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-17 02:53:13
April 17 2014 02:51 GMT
#1849
Dont chat. Smart pings. Treat them like infant children. Make a line of "HEY! OVER HERE!" and it's pretty hard to miss. Nothing is 100% and some people will still just charge down mid, but a good majority of the time they just need someone to paint it out for them.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 17 2014 02:53 GMT
#1850
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
April 17 2014 03:07 GMT
#1851
On April 17 2014 11:17 krndandaman wrote:
I think riot should create a PSA saying "you should push other lanes if mid inhib is down"

nearly all my games when im winning involve us repeatedly trying to bruteforce down mid despite inhib already being gone.
its like continuously trying to ram your head through a brick wall, but it eventually works since its soloq.

It's worse when their conclusion after the 5th failed time was that they need to baron.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 17 2014 04:18 GMT
#1852
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 17 2014 04:46 GMT
#1853
http://www.ongamers.com/articles/spellsy-s-stats-super-show-episode-2-champion-diversity/1100-1237/

man, seeing this champ diversity video about lcs, really exemplifies how shitty the champ pool for s4 has been.

though i disagree with his analysis that clg/tsm/c9 have small champ pool (imo it represents the fact that they had no problem transitioning with the meta from before, to the current meta now, shows they have a solid champ pool).
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
April 17 2014 04:57 GMT
#1854
On April 17 2014 13:46 wei2coolman wrote:
http://www.ongamers.com/articles/spellsy-s-stats-super-show-episode-2-champion-diversity/1100-1237/

man, seeing this champ diversity video about lcs, really exemplifies how shitty the champ pool for s4 has been.

though i disagree with his analysis that clg/tsm/c9 have small champ pool (imo it represents the fact that they had no problem transitioning with the meta from before, to the current meta now, shows they have a solid champ pool).

I think people were spoiled by Faker playing 15+ champions in his first 20 pro games, or something like that. It's like, if picks are there that they've already shown and a team doesn't feel the need to bust anything new out, why should they? Bjergsen was sitting on his Syndra for almost the entire split.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 17 2014 04:59 GMT
#1855
On April 17 2014 13:57 Gahlo wrote:
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On April 17 2014 13:46 wei2coolman wrote:
http://www.ongamers.com/articles/spellsy-s-stats-super-show-episode-2-champion-diversity/1100-1237/

man, seeing this champ diversity video about lcs, really exemplifies how shitty the champ pool for s4 has been.

though i disagree with his analysis that clg/tsm/c9 have small champ pool (imo it represents the fact that they had no problem transitioning with the meta from before, to the current meta now, shows they have a solid champ pool).

I think people were spoiled by Faker playing 15+ champions in his first 20 pro games, or something like that. It's like, if picks are there that they've already shown and a team doesn't feel the need to bust anything new out, why should they? Bjergsen was sitting on his Syndra for almost the entire split.

Pobelter's picks fueling EG's diversity. LoL game's Mushi.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
April 17 2014 05:00 GMT
#1856
On April 17 2014 13:59 onlywonderboy wrote:
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On April 17 2014 13:57 Gahlo wrote:
On April 17 2014 13:46 wei2coolman wrote:
http://www.ongamers.com/articles/spellsy-s-stats-super-show-episode-2-champion-diversity/1100-1237/

man, seeing this champ diversity video about lcs, really exemplifies how shitty the champ pool for s4 has been.

though i disagree with his analysis that clg/tsm/c9 have small champ pool (imo it represents the fact that they had no problem transitioning with the meta from before, to the current meta now, shows they have a solid champ pool).

I think people were spoiled by Faker playing 15+ champions in his first 20 pro games, or something like that. It's like, if picks are there that they've already shown and a team doesn't feel the need to bust anything new out, why should they? Bjergsen was sitting on his Syndra for almost the entire split.

Pobelter's picks fueling EG's diversity. LoL game's Mushi.


That's insulting please don't ever compare any LCS player to Mushi.
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Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
April 17 2014 05:55 GMT
#1857
I have an idea Sufficiency.

Since I'm now a legitimate gold player who carried himself through promos, I will duo queue with you and you will have a reliable Miss Fortune ADC to count on for Baron calls and other objectives.

It just makes sense.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 17 2014 06:23 GMT
#1858
or just play trynd and win the game by yourself by hitting towers faster then anyone
get everyone to follow your blade collect elo strongest arm in game
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
April 17 2014 06:25 GMT
#1859
On April 17 2014 15:23 FinestHour wrote:
or just play trynd and win the game by yourself by hitting towers faster then anyone
get everyone to follow your blade collect elo strongest arm in game

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Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
April 17 2014 06:37 GMT
#1860
On April 17 2014 11:51 Diamond wrote:
Dont chat. Smart pings. Treat them like infant children. Make a line of "HEY! OVER HERE!" and it's pretty hard to miss. Nothing is 100% and some people will still just charge down mid, but a good majority of the time they just need someone to paint it out for them.



I live by the "Ping til the system won't let me anymore and take the execute to make them learn" philosophy.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
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