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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 06 2014 13:13 GMT
#1221
you have fun playing as AD Garen for a while, then you realize that you should have picked Darius.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Ballsdeep or afk
Profile Joined November 2013
Great Britain31 Posts
March 06 2014 13:40 GMT
#1222
darius cant spin silly
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
March 06 2014 13:48 GMT
#1223
What does Darius' Q do again?
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 06 2014 13:49 GMT
#1224
Try to hit with his axe and realise that the weight's carrying him away.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
March 06 2014 14:15 GMT
#1225
On March 06 2014 13:38 UnKooL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 13:34 57 Corvette wrote:
On March 06 2014 13:18 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 06 2014 13:18 57 Corvette wrote:
I think I'm just gonna main jungle until this whole "GRAGAS OP BANBANBAN" phase passes. Not consistent enough with other midlaners.

Ahri is pretty fun and does alright against fotm midlaners. Though her midgame and lategame is all based on landing charm.


Excluding gragas, I am pretty bad at the mobile assassin type of mid. Can't play Ahri/Kass/LB/Khaz to save my life.

If you main Ori you can go so far. You can reach for the skies and never have to worry about a nerf or the metagame because she strong independent lady forever.

Well until Riot wants to nerf athenes I guess, ori herself likely won't see changes one way or the other
Bronze player stuck in platinum
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
March 06 2014 15:32 GMT
#1226
I've been playing Vlad some recently after seeing VoyBoy play him in the LCS to much success. I have really been liking a Haunting Guise (or Revolver if I need tons of sustain) -> Rylai's -> Liandries build on him. However most of the guides (likely outdated) I have been reading seem to recommend Deathcap -> Zhonyas. Zhonyas early seems a tad overkill on a champ that is ranged and already has an untargetable ability. Any suggestions TL?
I got nothin'...
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
March 06 2014 15:38 GMT
#1227
On March 07 2014 00:32 YouGotNothin wrote:
I've been playing Vlad some recently after seeing VoyBoy play him in the LCS to much success. I have really been liking a Haunting Guise (or Revolver if I need tons of sustain) -> Rylai's -> Liandries build on him. However most of the guides (likely outdated) I have been reading seem to recommend Deathcap -> Zhonyas. Zhonyas early seems a tad overkill on a champ that is ranged and already has an untargetable ability. Any suggestions TL?

Besides the obvious, depends on match up.

Top or mid, and what league level?
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
aurawashere
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
March 06 2014 15:51 GMT
#1228
zhonyas turns vlad into a god, popping zhonyas at a good time lets vlad get another cycle of spells off+potentially another pool
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
March 06 2014 15:54 GMT
#1229
On March 06 2014 22:11 Doctorbeat wrote:
Anybody on EUW wanna trade a mystery champ/skin?

I need to do one to get my RP to 0.

I'd be up for a mystery skin.
"Alán Shore" and "August Terran" @ LoL EUW - liquidparty
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
March 06 2014 16:22 GMT
#1230
Orianna is like the best designed champion ever. It's fun, interactive with your teammates, well-rounded and unique.

Serious post time: brief Skarner early game analysis
Skarner's first clear is one of the fastest, with only significant champion who slightly outspeeds him being Evelynn. Significantly faster than the latest AD caster junglers, including Kha'Zix. Skarner loses moderate amount of his hp early in the jungle. His fighting strength in the first and subsequent clears I would judge to be somewhere in the middle, despite his damage output, due to lack of reposition. Skarner's offensive capabilites both in the enemy jungle and lanes are pathetic to zero in the early game, due to lack of necessary CC. Because of lack of CC or jumps, early counterganks are likely to be ineffective as well, making Skarner a jungler with perhaps the lowest earlygame presence possible.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 06 2014 16:28 GMT
#1231
I played a game with Skarner during drinking game night. Granted it was a silly game and I was building AP, but overall I dislike his new kit. Having to "stack" his AS with Q just feels annoying, and while the slow on his E feels nice, overall I'd rather have the perma-slow sticking power.
It's your boy Guzma!
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 17:14:17
March 06 2014 17:12 GMT
#1232
Recently ive just stopped caring about what lane im playing, idk what it is. If im bottom 2 picks i'll just inform people i suck shit at ADC and pref not to but other then that i just pick whatevers available.

I mean its not raising my winrate or anything because fuck trolls but at least im more relaxed about it :D

Also annie support literally wrecks shit. She just becomes a pseudo carry after "early mid" game and starts dueling people lol, amount of times people have thought "oh its just their support" TIBBERS BITCH "You have slain an enemy".
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
DrunkenOne
Profile Joined August 2012
United States302 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 17:31:00
March 06 2014 17:29 GMT
#1233
Re: GP this season, he's still "viable" but has a lot of bad matchups where all he can do is passively farm since you run out of mana harassing or healing against all the stupid manaless supertanks. You pretty much have to hope to either cheese them at level 1, or hope they engage or badly position themselves at lvl 2/3 and you can win an all in thanks to LOL base stats and passive. Getting 1st blood at lvl 1-3 and coming back to lane with an extra d sword vs someone means you can usually bully them forever. I built tankier in s3, usually playing as koreaplank running something like 1/22/7, but I've been building damage heavy early on in s4, usually doing something like 21/9 and rushing a hydra for waveclear and sustain. Sure you have oranges for sustain but you run oom so fast. An auto Q auto hydra active wrecks people even with armor. Shiv works ok for waveclear except with a shiv your all in is much worse than a hydra and you basically poke poke poke poke, and you have no sustain. Plus the build path for a shiv is terrible since avarice gives you nothing and zeal is kind of meh as a first item. I also usually buy 1-2 mana pots every recall to keep the harass up.

With the d-shield nerf I would guess its easier to harass down for an early all in, but if they start cloth +5 you are probably screwed. It also helps that no one has any idea how to play against GP, at least in gold where I am, and they start d sword and think they can bully you early.
Yarr?
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
March 06 2014 18:09 GMT
#1234
On March 07 2014 00:38 Jek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 00:32 YouGotNothin wrote:
I've been playing Vlad some recently after seeing VoyBoy play him in the LCS to much success. I have really been liking a Haunting Guise (or Revolver if I need tons of sustain) -> Rylai's -> Liandries build on him. However most of the guides (likely outdated) I have been reading seem to recommend Deathcap -> Zhonyas. Zhonyas early seems a tad overkill on a champ that is ranged and already has an untargetable ability. Any suggestions TL?

Besides the obvious, depends on match up.

Top or mid, and what league level?


Besides the obvious what? Top or mid, do his core items change that much depending on the lane? I figure revolver is better if you need sustain which is more likely top, but besides that what else changes. Also, I don't see what my league has to do with how to best build vlad. I am Silver I for what its worth though.

I know item builds depend on matchup, but most champs have a 2-3 item core they rely on and then deviate from there depending on match ups, game flow, etc. I was wondering what Vlad's core is, I feel Rylai's/Liandries is good but guides I have read say Deathcap/Zhonyas is core.
I got nothin'...
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
March 06 2014 18:14 GMT
#1235
I've had a weird bug in the past few games where I can't see any of the chat in champ select, including my own. I can see the picks and bans fine and once the game starts it's fine.

Anybody else been experiencing this?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 06 2014 18:18 GMT
#1236
It's when the chat server itself is borked from what I've seen. Can you still go on channels and see your friendlist and stuff?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
March 06 2014 18:18 GMT
#1237
On March 07 2014 03:09 YouGotNothin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 00:38 Jek wrote:
On March 07 2014 00:32 YouGotNothin wrote:
I've been playing Vlad some recently after seeing VoyBoy play him in the LCS to much success. I have really been liking a Haunting Guise (or Revolver if I need tons of sustain) -> Rylai's -> Liandries build on him. However most of the guides (likely outdated) I have been reading seem to recommend Deathcap -> Zhonyas. Zhonyas early seems a tad overkill on a champ that is ranged and already has an untargetable ability. Any suggestions TL?

Besides the obvious, depends on match up.

Top or mid, and what league level?


Besides the obvious what? Top or mid, do his core items change that much depending on the lane? I figure revolver is better if you need sustain which is more likely top, but besides that what else changes. Also, I don't see what my league has to do with how to best build vlad. I am Silver I for what its worth though.

I know item builds depend on matchup, but most champs have a 2-3 item core they rely on and then deviate from there depending on match ups, game flow, etc. I was wondering what Vlad's core is, I feel Rylai's/Liandries is good but guides I have read say Deathcap/Zhonyas is core.

Hourglass is deff a core . With is nice too for the CD-r spell vamp.... My endgame build is usually wota/rylias/hg/CD-R boots /spirit visage/ and eighter deathcap /void staff/ or liandrys depending on the game with 9/21 master it's top...,.. I find him awful mid
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 06 2014 18:32 GMT
#1238
Zhonya's is core but you rarely get chance to rush it. Usually I find myself getting it as 3rd item at earliest.
liftlift > tsm
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
March 06 2014 18:40 GMT
#1239
To be honest I'm not 100% sure revolver is core on Vlad anymore

I haven't played him in a while but with Cowl out now you kinda need Haunting Guise asap and a revolver is a huge waste of gold for sustain when you could be building penetration. Thoughts?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 18:46:15
March 06 2014 18:43 GMT
#1240
I agree that revolver isn't necessary, Q provides decent sustain on its own. However against some high-sustain opponents it may help especially if you get behind.

Edit: Also can someone explain why Vlad is considered bad mid? Voyboy ran him mid in the LCS and did fine with it.
I got nothin'...
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