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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
March 05 2014 02:41 GMT
#1001
I really like pantheon jungle. I tried it for the first time today and his ganks are just so fun and satisfying. Add in a thresh and your ganks per level 6 are just stupid easy to pull off. What's his innate weakness? Getting counter jungled/not getting early kills? I feel like you could just far it out and get a BC/Elder Lizard online and proceed to walk around the map gibbing things.
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Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
March 05 2014 02:55 GMT
#1002
On March 05 2014 11:26 The_Unseen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 09:12 silencefc wrote:
I think Kayle only really beats Darius if her reaction time is fast enough to consistently Intervention his ult. If Darius gets ahead he doesn't even need to ult.

I'm also sure that due to Reckoning's cast time, if Kayle doesn't immediately turn away after using it while Darius is walking at her, he can land a Apprehend. If she tries to follow it up at all she's going to get hooked.


Kayle main here, and I swear Darius is a pretty easy matchup once you've played it a couple times, his ult is one of the easiest to ult reactively

As a Darius main, I find what you say to be true. Darius ult is so easy to react to. Every Kayle I've gone up against has been able to successively use Intervention to block Noxian Guillotine and take no damage.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
March 05 2014 02:57 GMT
#1003
On March 05 2014 11:41 Cixah wrote:
I really like pantheon jungle. I tried it for the first time today and his ganks are just so fun and satisfying. Add in a thresh and your ganks per level 6 are just stupid easy to pull off. What's his innate weakness? Getting counter jungled/not getting early kills? I feel like you could just far it out and get a BC/Elder Lizard online and proceed to walk around the map gibbing things.

He can have some trouble pre 6 if counter ganked and out played but once hes 6......hes so strong and his ganks are almost always a kill esp bot lane
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
March 05 2014 03:06 GMT
#1004
On March 05 2014 11:29 IMoperator wrote:
if you're a jungler and every lane is losing, what do you do to try to come back?

What I like to do is spam in all chat how bad they are because you're going to lose anyways so its better to make them feel the power of your teenage angst
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Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
March 05 2014 03:13 GMT
#1005
On March 05 2014 12:06 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 11:29 IMoperator wrote:
if you're a jungler and every lane is losing, what do you do to try to come back?

What I like to do is spam in all chat how bad they are because you're going to lose anyways so its better to make them feel the power of your teenage angst

This
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
March 05 2014 03:20 GMT
#1006
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dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
March 05 2014 03:29 GMT
#1007
On March 05 2014 12:20 krndandaman wrote:
for those who actually play veigar, what do you if the following situation arises:

you are decently fed. not like 10/0, but decent amount of kills and cs. you are pretty powerful and can pretty much 1 shot anyone 1v1.

your adc on the otherhand, is not that strong. not a feeding 0/10, but relatively low amount of kills and will do some dmg in fights, but you get the point. other team tank is pretty strong and adc cannot effectively kill him yet.

what should you do?

should I DFG burst and go for the tank peel so that my adc can live, or should I still just go for the diver(s)?


What items do you have? DFG/Void, DFG/void/dcap, or dfg/void/dcap/lichbane?

If you have lichbane. and the other team is diving, its pretty easy to just stun their diver with the close edge of the cage on him and then just w q auto, and your team can finish him off.

Honestly, its pretty much entirely situational, and really depends on how many and who has mikaels/banshees/qss on the other team at the time.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
March 05 2014 03:32 GMT
#1008
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Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
March 05 2014 03:56 GMT
#1009
Always kill damage first. Then go for the tank.
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
March 05 2014 04:07 GMT
#1010
so, for some reason everyone stopped playing/banning rengar, so i just jungle him and mass victorys
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 05 2014 04:30 GMT
#1011
On March 05 2014 13:07 SagaZ wrote:
so, for some reason everyone stopped playing/banning rengar, so i just jungle him and mass victorys


The reason is that people believe hes shit after the nerf he got.

That wasn't the case though.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
March 05 2014 04:32 GMT
#1012
On March 05 2014 12:56 Goumindong wrote:
Always kill damage first. Then go for the tank.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
March 05 2014 04:34 GMT
#1013
On March 05 2014 13:32 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 12:56 Goumindong wrote:
Always kill damage first. Then go for the tank.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

Which is also an absolute.

Seriously who wrote this?
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-05 04:36:33
March 05 2014 04:35 GMT
#1014
On March 05 2014 13:30 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 13:07 SagaZ wrote:
so, for some reason everyone stopped playing/banning rengar, so i just jungle him and mass victorys


The reason is that people believe hes shit after the nerf he got.

That wasn't the case though.


A typical case of rise and fall. At one given time, a champion can be regarded overpowered -> said champion gets nerfed and becomes underpowered/useless just go back up there again after a certain amount of time/changes.


People forget about recently nerfed champions way too fast, instead of conducting tests like SagaZ did, with success ^_^
hi
imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
March 05 2014 04:37 GMT
#1015
On March 05 2014 12:32 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 12:29 dae wrote:
On March 05 2014 12:20 krndandaman wrote:
for those who actually play veigar, what do you if the following situation arises:

you are decently fed. not like 10/0, but decent amount of kills and cs. you are pretty powerful and can pretty much 1 shot anyone 1v1.

your adc on the otherhand, is not that strong. not a feeding 0/10, but relatively low amount of kills and will do some dmg in fights, but you get the point. other team tank is pretty strong and adc cannot effectively kill him yet.

what should you do?

should I DFG burst and go for the tank peel so that my adc can live, or should I still just go for the diver(s)?


What items do you have? DFG/Void, DFG/void/dcap, or dfg/void/dcap/lichbane?

If you have lichbane. and the other team is diving, its pretty easy to just stun their diver with the close edge of the cage on him and then just w q auto, and your team can finish him off.

Honestly, its pretty much entirely situational, and really depends on how many and who has mikaels/banshees/qss on the other team at the time.


not that late game.
DFG/void/and parts of the next item.

other team tank would be 2 item. my adc would be around ie/zeal or bt/shiv


In this situation, I usually try and just QR a carry and EW-dfg someone else, hoping that your tank will finish off the carry for you and that your adc does enough damage to kill a cc'd and half-health tank. If you can assess how much your combo does, then you can split it up and try to snipe multiple people.
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Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 05 2014 04:39 GMT
#1016
On March 05 2014 13:35 Sponkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 13:30 Disengaged wrote:
On March 05 2014 13:07 SagaZ wrote:
so, for some reason everyone stopped playing/banning rengar, so i just jungle him and mass victorys


The reason is that people believe hes shit after the nerf he got.

That wasn't the case though.


A typical case of rise and fall. At one given time, a champion can be regarded overpowered -> said champion gets nerfed and becomes underpowered/useless just go back up there again after a certain amount of time/changes.


People forget about recently nerfed champions way too fast, instead of conducting tests like SagaZ did, with success ^_^


Like I don't understand why people stopped playing/banning Rengar I mean he can still pretty much delete people almost instantly.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
March 05 2014 04:43 GMT
#1017
ok im d3 now, is that still considered bad?
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 05 2014 04:45 GMT
#1018
On March 05 2014 13:43 IMoperator wrote:
ok im d3 now, is that still considered bad?


Better then my Silver so no
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-05 04:48:11
March 05 2014 04:46 GMT
#1019
On March 05 2014 13:39 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 13:35 Sponkz wrote:
On March 05 2014 13:30 Disengaged wrote:
On March 05 2014 13:07 SagaZ wrote:
so, for some reason everyone stopped playing/banning rengar, so i just jungle him and mass victorys


The reason is that people believe hes shit after the nerf he got.

That wasn't the case though.


A typical case of rise and fall. At one given time, a champion can be regarded overpowered -> said champion gets nerfed and becomes underpowered/useless just go back up there again after a certain amount of time/changes.


People forget about recently nerfed champions way too fast, instead of conducting tests like SagaZ did, with success ^_^


Like I don't understand why people stopped playing/banning Rengar I mean he can still pretty much delete people almost instantly.


Dunno, you have to remember you have 3x2 bans and there's 118 champions, each capable of functioning in (i'm not gonna do the math here, 6 am ftl) X amount of team comps, that's so huge. Like i admire a team like EG pulling out retarded old team-composition ideas that may seem "outdated" yet they still work like a charm, because they are confident in the mechanics and dynamics of said team comp.

On March 05 2014 13:43 IMoperator wrote:
ok im d3 now, is that still considered bad?


Only as bad as you want it to sound tbh. For lesser skilled players, you are playing with the elite, but for the elite, you're quite the noob.
hi
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 05 2014 04:49 GMT
#1020
On March 05 2014 13:34 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 13:32 sylverfyre wrote:
On March 05 2014 12:56 Goumindong wrote:
Always kill damage first. Then go for the tank.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

Which is also an absolute.

Seriously who wrote this?


A Sith?
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