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chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
March 04 2014 19:35 GMT
#961
support ashe might suck, but frostfang is ridiculous on her in arams, it's probably harder to NOT hit at least 2 people with volley than the other way around.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 04 2014 19:50 GMT
#962
On March 05 2014 04:35 chalice wrote:
support ashe might suck, but frostfang is ridiculous on her in arams, it's probably harder to NOT hit at least 2 people with volley than the other way around.


Cash ashe is back(sh)
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 04 2014 20:23 GMT
#963
On March 05 2014 03:31 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 00:45 cLutZ wrote:

Ashe support fundamentally misunderstands why Ashe ADC is useful. Its like Gragas, Orianna, Lux, Kayle, etc at support, which fundamentally misunderstands the strength of those champions, which is providing utility alongside damage. Now, the new FF might change the ability of supports to bring damage, but there isn't even an AD upgrade for it now, so you aren't even going to get moderate scaling for your Ashe support.


Kayle support was actually played at the pro level recently. Once, anyway.


So was Amumu and Malphite and Kennen

Freeeeeeedom
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
March 04 2014 20:27 GMT
#964
Sometimes I fear that some poor soul will stumble upon TL LoL GD and think he was actually reading serious posts. Then he takes what he learns in game and when he gets torn a new one by his teammates for trying support Ashe or some other quality strategy he will blame TL, thus creating 5 more people that think TL sucks.
I got nothin'...
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 04 2014 20:29 GMT
#965
How do you think we manage to keep our payroll small so that we can remain between despising elitists?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
March 04 2014 20:33 GMT
#966
On March 05 2014 05:29 Alaric wrote:
How do you think we manage to keep our payroll small so that we can remain between despising elitists?

Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?

a lightly moderated forum with no required credentials linked to usernames isn't going to be a great place for quality discussion, but we do alright with what we've got
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
March 04 2014 20:48 GMT
#967
b-b-but most of us used to play BW/SC2 isn't that a good enough credential?
I got nothin'...
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 04 2014 21:02 GMT
#968
Well when the only response to a moderately comprehensive breakdown of Support Ashe is "Someone played Kayle Support recently..."
Freeeeeeedom
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 04 2014 21:03 GMT
#969
Is that a reference? I don't get the sentence.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
March 04 2014 21:08 GMT
#970
On March 05 2014 06:03 Alaric wrote:
Is that a reference? I don't get the sentence.


http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/has-anyone-really-been-far-even-as-decided-to-use-even-go-want-to-do-look-more-like
TranslatorBaa!
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4168 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 21:08:50
March 04 2014 21:08 GMT
#971
I decided to try again Malph top, since he is not perma banned now. Everyone is beating the shit out of me haha:-) in lane I mean and they don''t really kill me, but I am always out-farmed. Most of the time due to the fact that I run out of mana while they don''t even use mana. First time I really realize what a discrepancy mana vs no mana creates. Anyway, Malph still can be an asset for the team with 2-3 good ulties
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 04 2014 21:21 GMT
#972
On March 05 2014 06:08 M2 wrote:
I decided to try again Malph top, since he is not perma banned now. Everyone is beating the shit out of me haha:-) in lane I mean and they don''t really kill me, but I am always out-farmed. Most of the time due to the fact that I run out of mana while they don''t even use mana. First time I really realize what a discrepancy mana vs no mana creates. Anyway, Malph still can be an asset for the team with 2-3 good ulties


It's hard to really qualify a "good ult", but its a risky strategy to build a team centered around slapping down 2 or 3 big AOE's on the enemy team IMO, high level players will spread out in anticipation and it'll be much less effective.

Ashe support is bad, she has less CC, less tankiness and less damage than most supports-- I'm not even talking about the 4 FOTM's, I'm even including tier-2's.
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cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
March 04 2014 21:23 GMT
#973
These are facts.

Without jungler intervention:
Darius beats Xin
Prenerf Kayle beats Darius. (max Q)

These are also volatile lanes. Even a jungler gank that only took off 200hp can cause Xin to beat Darius.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 04 2014 21:24 GMT
#974
Oh.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
March 04 2014 21:55 GMT
#975
On March 05 2014 05:27 YouGotNothin wrote:
Sometimes I fear that some poor soul will stumble upon TL LoL GD and think he was actually reading serious posts. Then he takes what he learns in game and when he gets torn a new one by his teammates for trying support Ashe or some other quality strategy he will blame TL, thus creating 5 more people that think TL sucks.

TL is a good place to meet skillfull players and go into a community, but most of the talking now is down through Skype groups and shit, the forum is a bit more... Messy, since it's public.
The legend of Darien lives on
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 23:38:10
March 04 2014 23:35 GMT
#976
i started reading these threads when odds* posted the locket veigar stuff a while ago. that build actually helped me become a much better player lol
BW -> League -> CSGO
OhTwoMise
Profile Joined September 2012
United States164 Posts
March 04 2014 23:53 GMT
#977
You guys are overcomplicating things. You pick support Ashe for Arrow. Everything else is either a perk or a barrier. If you don't reeeaally need Arrow, pick something else. And Arrow is pretty bad right now with the number of Banshees and Crucibles that are in every game.
ZataN
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand414 Posts
March 04 2014 23:56 GMT
#978
Just had someone counter pick Kass with Ryze in ranked.

This should be great.
CJ BABY | FAKER > PAWN BELIEVE IT
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
March 05 2014 00:07 GMT
#979
On March 05 2014 08:56 ZataN wrote:
Just had someone counter pick Kass with Ryze in ranked.

This should be great.


At least it should be a quick game!
ZataN
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand414 Posts
March 05 2014 00:07 GMT
#980
On March 05 2014 09:07 LoCicero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 08:56 ZataN wrote:
Just had someone counter pick Kass with Ryze in ranked.

This should be great.


At least it should be a quick game!

and it was. lol. my attitude probably didnt help.
CJ BABY | FAKER > PAWN BELIEVE IT
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