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silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
March 05 2014 00:12 GMT
#981
I think Kayle only really beats Darius if her reaction time is fast enough to consistently Intervention his ult. If Darius gets ahead he doesn't even need to ult.

I'm also sure that due to Reckoning's cast time, if Kayle doesn't immediately turn away after using it while Darius is walking at her, he can land a Apprehend. If she tries to follow it up at all she's going to get hooked.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
March 05 2014 00:18 GMT
#982
I think I've played enough jungle ad sion in normals to break it out in ranked. This is so terrible but feels so right
Platinum Support GOD
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
March 05 2014 00:34 GMT
#983
On March 05 2014 09:18 MattBarry wrote:
I think I've played enough jungle ad sion in normals to break it out in ranked. This is so terrible but feels so right

Dont torture your teammates with this
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
March 05 2014 00:37 GMT
#984
Fuck all people who pick sion. That is all.
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
March 05 2014 00:39 GMT
#985
You guys just don't know about the adventures of Swaglord Tolkein
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
March 05 2014 00:39 GMT
#986
I once underestimated a semi fed AD sion....got wrecked
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-05 00:40:43
March 05 2014 00:40 GMT
#987
On March 05 2014 09:18 MattBarry wrote:
I think I've played enough jungle ad sion in normals to break it out in ranked. This is so terrible but feels so right

But but it's so weak now that phantom dancer gives so little movespeed =(

I guess you can trnity froce to make up for that..
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 05 2014 00:42 GMT
#988
Hipster here. Never played SC2 (beside custom games)
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
March 05 2014 00:43 GMT
#989
On March 05 2014 09:40 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 09:18 MattBarry wrote:
I think I've played enough jungle ad sion in normals to break it out in ranked. This is so terrible but feels so right

But but it's so weak now that phantom dancer gives so little movespeed =(

I guess you can trnity froce to make up for that..

I go hydra shiv and destroy worlds. It's pretty fun, but I won't even claim it's good
Platinum Support GOD
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
March 05 2014 01:08 GMT
#990
Ap sion is still pretty terror tbh. dfg q w lichbane auto destroys squishes.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
March 05 2014 01:15 GMT
#991
AD sion is the only real way to play Sion
Platinum Support GOD
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
March 05 2014 01:23 GMT
#992
Do i buy renek, vi or k6. Decisions decisions. I wont ask you to decide for me but i will ask you this - which one is easier to play mechanically? As in doesnt require a bunch of skills to be used extremely quickly. I think k6 would be a bit like this? I get lag so playing champions that need me to use QWER in under a second is pretty difficult.
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-05 01:34:40
March 05 2014 01:33 GMT
#993
On March 05 2014 10:23 Omnishroud wrote:
Do i buy renek, vi or k6. Decisions decisions. I wont ask you to decide for me but i will ask you this - which one is easier to play mechanically? As in doesnt require a bunch of skills to be used extremely quickly. I think k6 would be a bit like this? I get lag so playing champions that need me to use QWER in under a second is pretty difficult.

All of them are pretty hard to play. Renek requires you to double E->W->Q combo to do da deeps. Vi requires you to land Q->E right after a auto for W chains. KhaZix requires you to leap->Q->hydra in succession then prepare for another combo if a reset occurs.
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
March 05 2014 01:43 GMT
#994
On March 05 2014 10:33 MooMooMugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 10:23 Omnishroud wrote:
Do i buy renek, vi or k6. Decisions decisions. I wont ask you to decide for me but i will ask you this - which one is easier to play mechanically? As in doesnt require a bunch of skills to be used extremely quickly. I think k6 would be a bit like this? I get lag so playing champions that need me to use QWER in under a second is pretty difficult.

All of them are pretty hard to play. Renek requires you to double E->W->Q combo to do da deeps. Vi requires you to land Q->E right after a auto for W chains. KhaZix requires you to leap->Q->hydra in succession then prepare for another combo if a reset occurs.


Reneks combo seems like its a longer timing window as opposed to say K6 where if he doesnt leap,Q,Hydra almost instantly its pretty useless. Vi im unsure of, her ult is pretty lol and her skills look more like they require positioning then precise timings but ive not played her at all so ye but chaining 2 skills together isnt all that hard with my delay, its when im required to do 3+ really quickly things just start borking.
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 05 2014 01:43 GMT
#995
Depends if you want to top or jungle honestly.

I remember one TL inhouse where some guy wrecked with AD Sion. Never doubt again.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 05 2014 02:13 GMT
#996
On March 05 2014 10:33 MooMooMugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 10:23 Omnishroud wrote:
Do i buy renek, vi or k6. Decisions decisions. I wont ask you to decide for me but i will ask you this - which one is easier to play mechanically? As in doesnt require a bunch of skills to be used extremely quickly. I think k6 would be a bit like this? I get lag so playing champions that need me to use QWER in under a second is pretty difficult.

All of them are pretty hard to play. Renek requires you to double E->W->Q combo to do da deeps. Vi requires you to land Q->E right after a auto for W chains. KhaZix requires you to leap->Q->hydra in succession then prepare for another combo if a reset occurs.

Lol. Vi is not hard to play. Press R on opponent, recieve free gold, continue to snowball. The only hard thing about her is AA resetting, which is pretty easy.
liftlift > tsm
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
March 05 2014 02:26 GMT
#997
On March 05 2014 09:12 silencefc wrote:
I think Kayle only really beats Darius if her reaction time is fast enough to consistently Intervention his ult. If Darius gets ahead he doesn't even need to ult.

I'm also sure that due to Reckoning's cast time, if Kayle doesn't immediately turn away after using it while Darius is walking at her, he can land a Apprehend. If she tries to follow it up at all she's going to get hooked.


Kayle main here, and I swear Darius is a pretty easy matchup once you've played it a couple times, his ult is one of the easiest to ult reactively
I got five reasons for you to shut up
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
March 05 2014 02:29 GMT
#998
if you're a jungler and every lane is losing, what do you do to try to come back?
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-05 02:32:02
March 05 2014 02:31 GMT
#999
play well
do your best i suppose you could say
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
March 05 2014 02:38 GMT
#1000
On March 05 2014 11:29 IMoperator wrote:
if you're a jungler and every lane is losing, what do you do to try to come back?

Find the lane that you can reverse the snowball in fastest and do that.
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