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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
March 01 2014 10:38 GMT
#521
Get feral flare on Nasus and get TWO KINDS OF STACKS AT ONCE.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 01 2014 10:44 GMT
#522
On March 01 2014 19:38 GolemMadness wrote:
Get feral flare on Nasus and get TWO KINDS OF STACKS AT ONCE.

Feral flare/ Sword of the occult/ Mejais/tear, travel back in time and get leviathan. TOO MANY STACKS SOMEBODY STOP ME.
Glorious SEA doto
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
March 01 2014 10:57 GMT
#523
PBE thread updated.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
March 01 2014 12:27 GMT
#524
Is anyone else getting 600+ pings when playing on EUW? I checked my internet and it's totally fine.
It's impossible to play like this :\
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
March 01 2014 12:39 GMT
#525
Is there a way to check my ping to EUW before entering a queue?
FBH #1!
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
March 01 2014 12:48 GMT
#526
Play a custom with bots?
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 01 2014 12:53 GMT
#527
On March 01 2014 21:48 AlterKot wrote:
Play a custom with bots?

I normally play an empty match before I start playing properly, good to check if everything is in order so it doesn't happen in the middle of a ranked.
Glorious SEA doto
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 01 2014 13:12 GMT
#528
Very often I go in a game with bots and I have no ping but after when I go in ranked it starts.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-01 13:26:51
March 01 2014 13:18 GMT
#529
fiora my new love, i feel shes incredibly underrated seems similar to yasuo but is not perma banned lol
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
March 01 2014 13:55 GMT
#530
On March 01 2014 22:12 nafta wrote:
Very often I go in a game with bots and I have no ping but after when I go in ranked it starts.

Exactly what I'm experiencing as well.
FBH #1!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 01 2014 14:13 GMT
#531
When I used to get hard lag in lol I would check in a bot game and it would be fine but when I went into a ranked/normal it would lag really hard. So not sure how safe that test is
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
March 01 2014 15:05 GMT
#532
It's not safe at all, but it's better than nothing. If you experience lag in botgames then you know not to play ranked. If you don't then there's nothing else you can do pretty much.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 01 2014 15:34 GMT
#533
http://www.twitch.tv/faceittv
If anyone is interested SK prime is running yi mid with sotl.
Glorious SEA doto
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
March 01 2014 15:35 GMT
#534
On March 01 2014 18:10 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2014 16:25 JazzVortical wrote:
On March 01 2014 15:19 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
This patch has made Lulu even better. She's still really strong at mid and doran's shield nerf is going to hurt melee assassins. Frostfang buff now make her auto even more deadly than an ADC at bottom, and she's the #1 counter to Leona and Thresh. She's also viable top and has no problem against melee bruisers like Renekton. I believe Lulu is the best champion in the game now.

I have literally played Lulu once in my entire time in league (can't get into the yordle champs at all), so noob Lulu question:
Why does she counter Thresh and Leona? I have no idea how Lulu works so I'm just curios.

EDIT: Wriggles upgrade http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/02/228-pbe-update-2.html

Feral Flare

Transforms from Wriggle's Lantern after 25 large monsters killed with Maim.
+20 Attack Damage
+35% Attack Speed
UNIQUE Passive - Maim: Basic attacks deal 100 ( + 3 per kill/assist/large monster kill ) magic damage (33% against champions) and heal 12 ( + 1 per kill/assist/large monster kill ) on hit. This damage and heal is increased by kills, assists and large monster kills.
UNIQUE Passive: Gain 30% increased Gold from monsters.
UNIQUE Active: Places a Stealth Ward that reveals the surrounding area for 180 seconds (180 second cooldown)
Limited to 1 Gold Income item



Looks.... interesting.



Leona and Thresh are all-in supports. Lulu has a excellent disengage, probably the best among champions not named Janna or Nami. However, even if they don't engage, Lulu can still poke and autoattack them.



All-in on Lulu is something like this:

Get poly'ed, slowed and watch yourself die, while you wonder how the fuck you didn't kill her.
hi
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 01 2014 17:03 GMT
#535
On March 01 2014 18:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2014 18:06 GolemMadness wrote:
Wriggles still looks like crap. I don't really get why they're trying to push an item designed to make you sit around in the jungle and farm all day.


because it would be nice if you didnt have to play early game junglers to compete just because map pressure and kills >>> everything. if we started seeing more jungle variety because farming jungle is so good that dying teammates isn't too bad then that's only a good thing. seeing junglers get behind and then be useless all game because the other is ahead is annoying.


I actually think the problem in the jungle is no longer about needing an earlygame jungler who pressures. Its mostly about the jungle being too hard for a lot of people to clear quickly (while being healthy) for the first 1 or 2 clears (the only ones that are important), while being able to maintain a facade of ganks.

Like, there is a whole class of junglers: Maokai, Naut, Sejuani, Amumu, Rammus, even Jarvan noe that are too slow or get too low, or both. So they get behind by default, to the point that even if they have theoretically strong ganks, in practice they don't because the laner can just kill them, the jungler can kill them, or they will get doublekilled in a countergank.
Freeeeeeedom
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
March 01 2014 17:18 GMT
#536
amumu is about to become fotm, even clg dexter said that yesterday on stream
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 01 2014 17:22 GMT
#537
I'm finding myself enjoying Hexakill way more than I thought I would. Part of it obviously comes from playing on a smurf, and Garen (champ I usually never play, and no gap closer so it forces me to play differently and try things and stuff), but the oddball picks and general disregard of the meta with flamers or people wanting to stick to the meta being exceptions makes the mode comfortable for goofing around and trying random stuff. I sometimes wish I could do that with normals compared to more serious ranked, but the general atmosphere is still close between the 2 and my normal Elo is still too high that if I try to goof around too much I'll make my team get crushed in 20 minutes and it won't be fun for anyone.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
March 01 2014 17:42 GMT
#538
On March 02 2014 02:22 Alaric wrote:
I'm finding myself enjoying Hexakill way more than I thought I would. Part of it obviously comes from playing on a smurf, and Garen (champ I usually never play, and no gap closer so it forces me to play differently and try things and stuff), but the oddball picks and general disregard of the meta with flamers or people wanting to stick to the meta being exceptions makes the mode comfortable for goofing around and trying random stuff. I sometimes wish I could do that with normals compared to more serious ranked, but the general atmosphere is still close between the 2 and my normal Elo is still too high that if I try to goof around too much I'll make my team get crushed in 20 minutes and it won't be fun for anyone.

Lmfao why the fuck do you smurf Hexakill?
God Bless
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22435 Posts
March 01 2014 17:44 GMT
#539
On March 02 2014 02:42 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 02:22 Alaric wrote:
I'm finding myself enjoying Hexakill way more than I thought I would. Part of it obviously comes from playing on a smurf, and Garen (champ I usually never play, and no gap closer so it forces me to play differently and try things and stuff), but the oddball picks and general disregard of the meta with flamers or people wanting to stick to the meta being exceptions makes the mode comfortable for goofing around and trying random stuff. I sometimes wish I could do that with normals compared to more serious ranked, but the general atmosphere is still close between the 2 and my normal Elo is still too high that if I try to goof around too much I'll make my team get crushed in 20 minutes and it won't be fun for anyone.

Lmfao why the fuck do you smurf Hexakill?

because everyone likes stomping noobs?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
March 01 2014 17:47 GMT
#540
You know all the modes have their own MMR right?
God Bless
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