EPT[Patch 4.2] Xerath/Skarner General Discussion - Page 96
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IMoperator
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
I'd hardly say he's dominating. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 21 2014 07:38 IMoperator wrote: how long until wukong's ult gets nerfed? or his passive? I think his Q is what's stupid, 30% armor reduction for 3 seconds, that's fucking huge. | ||
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Swords
6038 Posts
1. He isn't actually retiring, some disagreement with management precipitated him being removed. Sounds like he's still getting along fine with his teammates. 2. Hated the role-swap decision, felt like it ruined everything Xmithie and Zuna had worked on in Season 3. 3. Feels like management doesn't structure or enforce practice properly. 4. Swapping Zuna and Xmithie was Kenma's (Zuna's brother) idea. Pretty damning of XDG's management overall. | ||
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SidianTheBard
United States2475 Posts
Start WQE. I suppose maxing E could be sweet because that 70% slow is pretty disgusting. Been awhile since I've played her. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
On February 21 2014 08:01 Swords wrote: From Bloodwater's AMA so far: 1. He isn't actually retiring, some disagreement with management precipitated him being removed. Sounds like he's still getting along fine with his teammates. 2. Hated the role-swap decision, felt like it ruined everything Xmithie and Zuna had worked on in Season 3. 3. Feels like management doesn't structure or enforce practice properly. 4. Swapping Zuna and Xmithie was Kenma's (Zuna's brother) idea. Pretty damning of XDG's management overall. Its clear that Zuna's brother is putting his family first before the team despite of how poorly hes performing. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On February 21 2014 06:25 ticklishmusic wrote: Athene's is a safe choice for a lot of assassins In a lot of high level games, you can't really depend on getting blue So Athene's lets you farm really hard to buy your next item, and your threat of chunking is still decently high That's how I see it anyways Sure, but the goal is really to turn you into a reliable Nidalee spear. W>Q>E >W Out If you go DFG you are oom after that one or 2 times. So you go Athenes do it once, rest, do it a 2nd (WQRE or WQER) and you got a kill/forced them back. | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On February 21 2014 08:08 MooMooMugi wrote: Its clear that Zuna's brother is putting his family first before the team despite of how poorly hes performing. What's even clearer is that Kenma as a manager is failing at his job, regardless of Zuna's performance. | ||
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Swords
6038 Posts
On February 21 2014 08:08 MooMooMugi wrote: Its clear that Zuna's brother is putting his family first before the team despite of how poorly hes performing. Bloodwater definitely respects Zuna's game knowledge and likes him as a teammate though (he mentions this in the AMA). It'd be interesting to see how Zuna would do as a coach, since his teammates and peers seem to like him and respect his knowledge, he just doesn't translate the knowledge properly to his own play. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
On February 21 2014 08:06 SidianTheBard wrote: Is E what most people max on Sej? I thought with the Q change it's better to max that so you have more mobility? Q > E > W? Start WQE. I suppose maxing E could be sweet because that 70% slow is pretty disgusting. Been awhile since I've played her. Maxing E makes your ganks really strong, the resulting extra damage from the stronger slow(and R has a deceptively large range) often more than makes up for what you'd get for hitting you Q. | ||
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SidianTheBard
United States2475 Posts
On February 21 2014 08:21 Gahlo wrote: Maxing E makes your ganks really strong, the resulting extra damage from the stronger slow(and R has a deceptively large range) often more than makes up for what you'd get for hitting you Q. Yeah, I know having a 70% snare with max level E is very strong. I'll have to give it a shot, everytime I've played Sej lately I just max Q because I always like having the faster CD on it because it's your gap closer/escape. I know before her rework I always maxed E first and I do recall it being strong. Time to Sej it up tonight! At least do a normal to try her out again. I've been playing too much Vi/Elise/Fiddle in the jungle lately, would be fun to try some Sej again. Spectral Wraith for more dmg or do you just do Golem? I'm thinking Golem so you get tankier but Wraith but be pretty awesome on her. I know if you get fed grabbing a Liandries is pretty awesome on her, otherwise you build mostly just pure tank? Randuins/veil iirc. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
I open W>Q>E and max R>E>W>Q, but I could see maxing Q second. I max W second for clear speed. If I played her more you probably actually only need to go like 3 points into W to have it kill small monsters, but I'm not that fancy. The item build I've been using is golem stone > ninja tabi > sunfire and bveil, then last 2 items some combination of randuin, visage and liandry. If I'm super fed I'll buy a warmogs after liandry and call it a "damage item" | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
Just don't max Q first.... that's kind of dumb hahaha | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
that and Travis is the go to puff piece reporter for the LoL scene, the fact that the info came from him is just rank with spin. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
Right now I feel the tower changes are definitely a step in the right direction. Sure it is an inelegant change on the surface, but I find the lack of laneswap/3v1 dives refreshing. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
On February 21 2014 08:30 SidianTheBard wrote: Yeah, I know having a 70% snare with max level E is very strong. I'll have to give it a shot, everytime I've played Sej lately I just max Q because I always like having the faster CD on it because it's your gap closer/escape. I know before her rework I always maxed E first and I do recall it being strong. Time to Sej it up tonight! At least do a normal to try her out again. I've been playing too much Vi/Elise/Fiddle in the jungle lately, would be fun to try some Sej again. Spectral Wraith for more dmg or do you just do Golem? I'm thinking Golem so you get tankier but Wraith but be pretty awesome on her. I know if you get fed grabbing a Liandries is pretty awesome on her, otherwise you build mostly just pure tank? Randuins/veil iirc. I like golem, because it frees me up on Tenacity, gives me early tank that Sejuani is in dire need of, and adds a bit of damage onto W. I could see the reasoning for Wraith, it just isn't for me. I think Liandry's fits the "that one offensive item" niche on her that, say, Blade of the Ruined King does on Shyvana or Black Cleaver on a tank focused Vi. I'd like to try out mirroring the early MPen build of Elise on Sej, but I've only played her this season with a duo that insists on playing fighters. The Sejuani thread is the one I intend to do a pass on if Riot would stop putting out a damn PBE update every friggen day.  | ||
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Swords
6038 Posts
On February 21 2014 08:39 AsnSensation wrote: So xdg did actually bench bloodwater and the "clarification" provided by travis and ongamers (after richard lewis broke the story first) was filled with false infos provided by xdg management. Thats hilarious. Bloodwater's exact quote on the matter: "I was removed from the team because I was not dedicated enough according to the management and owner of XDG." Now maybe Bloodwater being not dedicated enough was true, but the fact that XDG swapped Zuna and Xmithie despite Bloodwater (and possibly other teammates) being against it, and that they lied saying Bloodwater was retiring, leads me to believe Bloodwater was perfectly dedicated and they just kicked him to make room for Zuna. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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