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On February 18 2014 02:24 Sponkz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2014 00:33 Sarah Bryant wrote:On February 18 2014 00:20 Alaric wrote:
I'm more baffled at the need to separate males and females in LoL competitions. There has been discussions about the pros and cons of such a thing, but in the end it's good. Many[MANY] girls are shy or unmotivated, and this gives them a more friendly environment to play, get better, and fall in love with the competitive play. Now dont get me wrong there is alot of politics, fights, trash talk, and intrigues in the female scene, but it's still quite welcoming and helps alot of girls enjoy the competitive scene. Sounds like the male scene.... Girls are so afraid of equality i feel, they like to be inferior to men.
LOL SPONKZ
be a real man and post that on pintrest or r/feminism
On February 18 2014 02:35 Gahlo wrote:
Renekton v Garen, gimme a quick summary.
who's next on the chopping block
TO THE FIELDS OF JUSTICE
white meat, dark meat, it's all the same
BATTLE THE INFAMY
CHARGE
do I have someone in my teeth?
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On February 18 2014 02:35 Gahlo wrote:
Renekton v Garen, gimme a quick summary.
Garen should win it, but not by much, and Renekton just infinitely more useful post lane.
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On February 18 2014 02:31 Sarah Bryant wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2014 02:24 Sponkz wrote:On February 18 2014 00:33 Sarah Bryant wrote:On February 18 2014 00:20 Alaric wrote:
I'm more baffled at the need to separate males and females in LoL competitions. There has been discussions about the pros and cons of such a thing, but in the end it's good. Many[MANY] girls are shy or unmotivated, and this gives them a more friendly environment to play, get better, and fall in love with the competitive play. Now dont get me wrong there is alot of politics, fights, trash talk, and intrigues in the female scene, but it's still quite welcoming and helps alot of girls enjoy the competitive scene. Sounds like the male scene.... Girls are so afraid of equality i feel, they like to be inferior to men. Eh nah as i said it's great to encourge girls to play competitive and motivate them. But for the top level girls who are ambitious and play hardcore to be the best, there is only goal and that is the lcs, not winning weekly esl female tournament.
But don't you think it's time to stop this silly separation and just make multi-gender teams? I've seen it before at Danish LAN's and some of the teams were rather successful (i remember one team reaching 3rd place in a tournament called NPF with a silver/gold girl and former Copenhagen Wolves won that tourney, so they are not THAT bad). Like i get the whole "GIRL POWER" thingie and that's cool, but i don't see why men should be better at computer games than girls. Maybe we are better at dedicating and devoting ourselves, but women should be able to do that as well.
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I have a few questions for junglers like scip and teut
1) is it worth it for me to use lol replay and view my lost games to look for missed opportunities etc in terms of ganking?
2) do you tend to focus on one lane to snowball or try to maintain presence all over the map?
3) are there any situations where you would not gank a particular lane and focus on others (except for the obvious situation where your laner is so far ahead he can 2v1 or something)?
4) if you get behind early on with either a buff steal or failed ganks/dying in a gank/their jungle's is stronger than you what do you do? Play passive or try to make plays? Any other tips for when playing from behind?
5) is actively trying to counter jungle worth it if you have a champion strong at dueling?
6) any other jungling/ganking tips or rules you guys have that May not be obvious to a guy in gold league?
Thanks
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On February 18 2014 02:39 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2014 02:35 Gahlo wrote:
Renekton v Garen, gimme a quick summary. Garen should win it, but not by much, and Renekton just infinitely more useful post lane.
i think the reverse might be true actually
On February 18 2014 02:40 Sponkz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2014 02:31 Sarah Bryant wrote:On February 18 2014 02:24 Sponkz wrote:On February 18 2014 00:33 Sarah Bryant wrote:On February 18 2014 00:20 Alaric wrote:
I'm more baffled at the need to separate males and females in LoL competitions. There has been discussions about the pros and cons of such a thing, but in the end it's good. Many[MANY] girls are shy or unmotivated, and this gives them a more friendly environment to play, get better, and fall in love with the competitive play. Now dont get me wrong there is alot of politics, fights, trash talk, and intrigues in the female scene, but it's still quite welcoming and helps alot of girls enjoy the competitive scene. Sounds like the male scene.... Girls are so afraid of equality i feel, they like to be inferior to men. Eh nah as i said it's great to encourge girls to play competitive and motivate them. But for the top level girls who are ambitious and play hardcore to be the best, there is only goal and that is the lcs, not winning weekly esl female tournament. But don't you think it's time to stop this silly separation and just make multi-gender teams? I've seen it before at Danish LAN's and some of the teams were rather successful (i remember one team reaching 3rd place in a tournament called NPF with a silver/gold girl and former Copenhagen Wolves won that tourney, so they are not THAT bad). Like i get the whole "GIRL POWER" thingie and that's cool, but i don't see why men should be better at computer games than girls. Maybe we are better at dedicating and devoting ourselves, but women should be able to do that as well.
personally I think anonymous styles of play like solo q promote the top level but do nothing to promote subcommunities like our favourite liquidparty and tl inhouses and our skype convo. Those type of subcommunities are what kept games like diablo 2 and WoW and Starcraft Brood war alive for so long. There were ways for people to meet up and then join in clans. A large part of what makes Sports so popular is that you have local teams which people support, and then from supporting their local teams they get to know and like the players, sort of the way everoyne had a favourite brood war player.
There should be more incentive for subcommunities but it would be a lot of work, even things like tournaments for people only within the same nation and then international tournaments of the winners of them could make like national "clubs" and keep people interested.
the esl female thing is a similar thing so i think its generally a great idea
On February 18 2014 02:43 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
I have a few questions for junglers like scip and teut
1) is it worth it for me to use lol replay and view my lost games to look for missed opportunities etc in terms of ganking?
2) do you tend to focus on one lane to snowball or try to maintain presence all over the map?
3) are there any situations where you would not gank a particular lane and focus on others (except for the obvious situation where your laner is so far ahead he can 2v1 or something)?
4) if you get behind early on with either a buff steal or failed ganks/dying in a gank/their jungle's is stronger than you what do you do? Play passive or try to make plays? Any other tips for when playing from behind?
5) is actively trying to counter jungle worth it if you have a champion strong at dueling?
6) any other jungling/ganking tips or rules you guys have that May not be obvious to a guy in gold league?
Thanks
1) maybe, but you should rather use post game analysis from memory and when you're dead to try to do the same thing without having to check the replay. Think of when there MIGHT have been an opportunity so you know when to look for it next time.
2)usually good gank opportunities are rare so you take what you can get, and hang around the lane you think is most likely to be gankable. If a lane is winning its often easier to gank, except bot lane, which is easier to gank when they are slightly losing.
3)if it's a gank likely to be unsuccessful or easy to countergank then you just dont gank, even if there is nowhere else to gank.
4)playing behind you just need to be more aware of the ability to get counterganked
5)if you want to hang around the lanes to gank from behind, you can kill their jungle, so you don't want to go back into your jungler you can far mtheir jungle. The actual reward for stealing their creeps is very low, its just a replacement for your own farm when you want to keep your positioning up. this works best when you just killed their jungle so you're about a level ahead
6)golden rule of jungling is never listen to laners, always trust your own judgement, if you are wrong you can learn from it. Laners nearly always make terrible calls and you ca'nt learn anything except the above rule
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The reason you don't see a lot of top female players is likely because there are fewer top female players. This makes it harder to get on a team.
Female only tournaments could be valuable in that they expose the fact that females do play the game competitively and in sufficient numbers to make teams, even if there are not enough to have them ranked among the best. This might increase female participation enough that they start showing up on LCS teams.
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On February 18 2014 02:40 Sponkz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2014 02:31 Sarah Bryant wrote:On February 18 2014 02:24 Sponkz wrote:On February 18 2014 00:33 Sarah Bryant wrote:On February 18 2014 00:20 Alaric wrote:
I'm more baffled at the need to separate males and females in LoL competitions. There has been discussions about the pros and cons of such a thing, but in the end it's good. Many[MANY] girls are shy or unmotivated, and this gives them a more friendly environment to play, get better, and fall in love with the competitive play. Now dont get me wrong there is alot of politics, fights, trash talk, and intrigues in the female scene, but it's still quite welcoming and helps alot of girls enjoy the competitive scene. Sounds like the male scene.... Girls are so afraid of equality i feel, they like to be inferior to men. Eh nah as i said it's great to encourge girls to play competitive and motivate them. But for the top level girls who are ambitious and play hardcore to be the best, there is only goal and that is the lcs, not winning weekly esl female tournament. But don't you think it's time to stop this silly separation and just make multi-gender teams? I've seen it before at Danish LAN's and some of the teams were rather successful (i remember one team reaching 3rd place in a tournament called NPF with a silver/gold girl and former Copenhagen Wolves won that tourney, so they are not THAT bad). Like i get the whole "GIRL POWER" thingie and that's cool, but i don't see why men should be better at computer games than girls. Maybe we are better at dedicating and devoting ourselves, but women should be able to do that as well.
It's not about girl power, as i said, it's to get new players on the competitive scene in nice friendly enviorment, the top girls play hardcore to win in team ranked, some in multi gender teams, and the dream for them is not esl female, but the lcs.
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On February 18 2014 02:31 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2014 02:11 nafta wrote:
Pretty much every single dash in the game. Like, can Aatroc Q>Flash and get the knockup? For some reason I tried that a few times and it didn't seem to work. But, then again, unstable ping.
Aatrox is different because his q is ground targeted instead of a vector. If you flash mid q you will still end up in the same spot. I think pretty much every vector targeted dash can be flashed in mid animation though.
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On February 18 2014 02:47 Sarah Bryant wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2014 02:40 Sponkz wrote:On February 18 2014 02:31 Sarah Bryant wrote:On February 18 2014 02:24 Sponkz wrote:On February 18 2014 00:33 Sarah Bryant wrote:On February 18 2014 00:20 Alaric wrote:
I'm more baffled at the need to separate males and females in LoL competitions. There has been discussions about the pros and cons of such a thing, but in the end it's good. Many[MANY] girls are shy or unmotivated, and this gives them a more friendly environment to play, get better, and fall in love with the competitive play. Now dont get me wrong there is alot of politics, fights, trash talk, and intrigues in the female scene, but it's still quite welcoming and helps alot of girls enjoy the competitive scene. Sounds like the male scene.... Girls are so afraid of equality i feel, they like to be inferior to men. Eh nah as i said it's great to encourge girls to play competitive and motivate them. But for the top level girls who are ambitious and play hardcore to be the best, there is only goal and that is the lcs, not winning weekly esl female tournament. But don't you think it's time to stop this silly separation and just make multi-gender teams? I've seen it before at Danish LAN's and some of the teams were rather successful (i remember one team reaching 3rd place in a tournament called NPF with a silver/gold girl and former Copenhagen Wolves won that tourney, so they are not THAT bad). Like i get the whole "GIRL POWER" thingie and that's cool, but i don't see why men should be better at computer games than girls. Maybe we are better at dedicating and devoting ourselves, but women should be able to do that as well. It's not about girl power, as i said, it's to get new players on the competitive scene in nice friendly enviorment, the top girls play hardcore to win in team ranked, some in multi gender teams, and the dream for them is not esl female, but the lcs.
That's good to hear ! I'm happy that girls can grow within computer games, because in Denmark especially it has been a taboo for some years and the media generally dislike eSports and make it look like "a bunch of nerds", instead of looking at the competitive side and the communities. There was actually an article some time ago, that suggested people playing violent video games would develop awkward behaviour, but they always seem to forget why this happens; when you play video games as a child, you react differently because of the new images shown on the screen and it all it really comes down to is making your parents understand that you are aware of this (and if you aren't you need help to BE aware). Personally it wasn't a problem for me, because my dad always played video games, but some of my friends and their parents, like seriously sometimes I'm thinking "what the fuck", simply because ignorance is bliss 
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sponkz you are really fucking capricious
at least i stay the same amount of asshole constantly, you oscilllate from ass kisser to previously banned user constantly
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Yeah, i hear that sometimes, glad you're finally catching up 
It's like, I've been trolling on this forum for freaking 2 years, you guys have no fucking clue about who i am lol.
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i guess it means you are an OK poster on average
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When I jungle Udyr (phoenix), do I take an early point in Q for the 100 or so physical DoT when ganking?
Also, SotAG -> Tabis/Swifties -> Triforce -> ??? then what? I saw Teut building Hexdrinker after Triforce and then Randuins... but then again, Teut has 10+ kills each game. How do I properly progress item builds?
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On February 18 2014 02:51 Atheros wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2014 02:31 cLutZ wrote:On February 18 2014 02:11 nafta wrote:
Pretty much every single dash in the game. Like, can Aatroc Q>Flash and get the knockup? For some reason I tried that a few times and it didn't seem to work. But, then again, unstable ping. Aatrox is different because his q is ground targeted instead of a vector. If you flash mid q you will still end up in the same spot. I think pretty much every vector targeted dash can be flashed in mid animation though.
Blah, I guess that makes sense. In that way it is kind of like Hook flash.
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On February 18 2014 02:43 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2014 02:39 wei2coolman wrote:On February 18 2014 02:35 Gahlo wrote:
Renekton v Garen, gimme a quick summary. Garen should win it, but not by much, and Renekton just infinitely more useful post lane. i think the reverse might be true actually
You think so? I always find Garen can usually do decent in lane in that matchup.
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On February 18 2014 02:56 Celial wrote:
When I jungle Udyr (phoenix), do I take an early point in Q for the 100 or so physical DoT when ganking?
Also, SotAG -> Tabis/Swifties -> Triforce -> ??? then what? I saw Teut building Hexdrinker after Triforce and then Randuins... but then again, Teut has 10+ kills each game. How do I properly progress item builds?
i dont take Q till level 13 and not always
but i often only get 3 in bear stance and finish up with Q.
you get SoTAG and boots 2 in whatever order makes sense, sometimes i get spirit stone +boots 2, or sometimes i get spirit stone + boots one, or spirit stone +boots 1 + ruby, or rush straight SoTAG, don't forget a few hp and a mana pot and a pink ward with spare gold
after you have boots 2+SotAGH the proper progession to triforce is phage-->sheen-->tri HUE SO COMPLEX
you can sneak in a negatron and wardens mail with phage if you need to be a bit tankier
triforce sotag and tabi/swiftness are pretty core, then you want randuins/hex/wits end/GA/maybe banshees/frozen heart it all depends. maybe thornmail and warmogs sometimes as well
On February 18 2014 02:59 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2014 02:43 Slayer91 wrote:On February 18 2014 02:39 wei2coolman wrote:On February 18 2014 02:35 Gahlo wrote:
Renekton v Garen, gimme a quick summary. Garen should win it, but not by much, and Renekton just infinitely more useful post lane. i think the reverse might be true actually You think so? I always find Garen can usually do decent in lane in that matchup.
I didn't say you win hard, but you might lose slightly. Renek has a lot of sustain garen can't really do much until level 7/9 and if renek gets cs lead by then it might be hard to catch back up
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On February 18 2014 02:43 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
I have a few questions for junglers like scip and teut
1) is it worth it for me to use lol replay and view my lost games to look for missed opportunities etc in terms of ganking?
2) do you tend to focus on one lane to snowball or try to maintain presence all over the map?
3) are there any situations where you would not gank a particular lane and focus on others (except for the obvious situation where your laner is so far ahead he can 2v1 or something)?
4) if you get behind early on with either a buff steal or failed ganks/dying in a gank/their jungle's is stronger than you what do you do? Play passive or try to make plays? Any other tips for when playing from behind?
5) is actively trying to counter jungle worth it if you have a champion strong at dueling?
6) any other jungling/ganking tips or rules you guys have that May not be obvious to a guy in gold league?
Thanks
1) yes
2) usually the former, although other things come into consideration (dragon, low hp tower)
3) whenever it wouldn't get you a kill or on objective. Don't know how to get more specific on this one
4) just keep farming, if they are invading you then they have a pretty good idea of where you are, so ganks probably arent going to work, not to mention you are weak so getting kills is hard and getting counterganked harsh. Even at challanger level people who try to counterjungle usually end up losing more farm than denying it.
5) it can be at times, of the commonly played junglers Vi is the weakest at dueling. If you can go straight from your wolves to her wraiths and get them from her, it's worth, but make sure you arent losing more farm than the enemy is.
6) not ganking before lvl6 can be a great way to play jungle, probably better than what you are doing right now :D
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On February 18 2014 02:59 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2014 02:43 Slayer91 wrote:On February 18 2014 02:39 wei2coolman wrote:On February 18 2014 02:35 Gahlo wrote:
Renekton v Garen, gimme a quick summary. Garen should win it, but not by much, and Renekton just infinitely more useful post lane. i think the reverse might be true actually You think so? I always find Garen can usually do decent in lane in that matchup.
What I found from the game: Whoever gets the silence or stun first wins the trade. Renekton has the slight edge with this because Slice can deal with minion blocking.
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On February 18 2014 02:39 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2014 02:35 Gahlo wrote:
Renekton v Garen, gimme a quick summary. Garen should win it, but not by much, and Renekton just infinitely more useful post lane.
And proceed to be utterly useless in teamfights. Garen is such a terrible champion.
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On February 18 2014 00:04 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2014 00:01 Sarah Bryant wrote:
You could suspect that, but to play esl female you need to video and voice proof before admins, so fakes are never able to enter into any circle what if they just get their girlfriend to do it OH WAIT LOL PLAYERS DONT HAVE GIRLFRIENDS LOLOLOLOLOLOLOOL rekt
Give this guy a PhD.
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