EPTyour Q, R and ignite are all totally unaffected most of the time
you buyi tmostly to support your team
[Patch 4.2] Xerath/Skarner General Discussion - Page 68
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Slayer91
Ireland23461 Posts
your Q, R and ignite are all totally unaffected most of the time you buyi tmostly to support your team | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 18 2014 06:24 Slayer91 wrote: black cleaver has the issue that the majority of your damage isnt affected by black cleaver stacks, and even the full black cleaver stacks only 2 ticks of E get the full damage, your Q, R and ignite are all totally unaffected most of the time you buyi tmostly to support your team That's sort of the point of black cleaver in general. It augments your ADC's dmg by quite a bit if you can get a couple armor shred stacks. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On February 18 2014 06:47 GolemMadness wrote: Is black cleaver ever more effective than last whisper if it's just you doing damage though? Depends on how well you can stack it and how much flat pen to armor they have, I think. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On February 18 2014 06:55 Gahlo wrote: Depends on how well you can stack it and how much flat pen to armor they have, I think. If your target has 60 armour, then once all 5 stacks are applied, black cleaver will take away around 1.5 more armour than LW. But since it'll only be slightly more effective once the stacks are applied, LW is going to be more effective overall. Once you have black cleaver, it's pretty unlikely you'll find a target with less armour than this. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23461 Posts
you wont always be focusing tanks at the same time as your adc so its not always worth | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
You buy BC over LW (don't confuse with "on top of") only when you want to help your team, which is why AD casters won't rush it ever, AD carries won't build it, and it's usually a bruiser's one-off damage item when he's built tanky shit first. On an unrelated topic, trying to cast Nautilus' ult versus Fizz+Zhonya's and Yi (GP and me were tanking Jinx enough, esp. after I got FH on top of Tabi and my shield) is... seg*slsùehksvjqs:;kùqssh* all the cancels. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I noticed the 235 damage per aa to the towers too, courtesy of his 700+ AP. I take notice of the dring start Viktor shitting on Lee+Renekton trying to dive him and killing the jungler though. Fuck yeah! He's building Power Augment too, I'm curious now. Welp Scarra gifted Renek double buff and double kill, nvm that lane. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On February 18 2014 02:31 cLutZ wrote: Like, can Aatroc Q>Flash and get the knockup? For some reason I tried that a few times and it didn't seem to work. But, then again, unstable ping. Aatrox probably doesn't work with it because he doesn't knockup along the dash, just at the end. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On February 18 2014 09:23 Alaric wrote: Outshone by Turtle. Still, him 100-0 the Nasus with triforce and mercs who hoped to kill him was amusing. I noticed the 235 damage per aa to the towers too, courtesy of his 700+ AP. I take notice of the dring start Viktor shitting on Lee+Renekton trying to dive him and killing the jungler though. Fuck yeah! He's building Power Augment too, I'm curious now. Welp Scarra gifted Renek double buff and double kill, nvm that lane. Dat turtle steal, just saw. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On February 18 2014 10:29 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: any thoughts on jungling new xerath? i don't think anyone answered the first time The cc seems good, the passive seems like it would help with mana sustain a bit, but he's so slow and clunky. You could make him work as a very unorthodox AP jungler pick, but Gragas exists. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5714 Posts
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YouGotNothin
United States907 Posts
 just about to start a 3v3 tourney | ||
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
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GettingIt
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
On February 18 2014 10:56 GettingIt wrote: Has anyone played top lane skarner? I find that early game is incredibly difficult but if you get out of laning phase with a decent cs and few items you can definitely make a positive impact with engages and good peel. And if by some miracle you win your lane you can rush TF for tons of damage. playing a melee champ with no sustain and meaningful mana costs in top lane seems like torture. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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