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TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
February 15 2014 08:04 GMT
#981
A lot of lv3 timing depends as much upon the rest of your team as it does for the individual jungler, doesn't it? I mean, a lot of teams can stick around for your first buff and cut the time down by a huge enough amount that Jungler v Buffcamp isn't really a crucially important stat that early. Maybe I'm wrong though, I have no experience with Eve.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
February 15 2014 08:06 GMT
#982
On February 15 2014 16:29 GolemMadness wrote:
Does any jungler hit level 3 faster than Eve?


I think Shyvana can hit 3 decently fast too.
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
February 15 2014 08:57 GMT
#983
Holy crap, I love these changes:

http://community.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-feedback/Jp0TQALv-planned-43-itemization-changes-boots-duo-lane-gold-items-dshield-ruby-crystal
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-15 09:06:32
February 15 2014 08:59 GMT
#984
are they serious? they destroy my vlad build with Boots of Lucidity, yes make them even shittier who gives a fuck they cost slightly less when they are garbage item slot wise
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
February 15 2014 09:08 GMT
#985
Finally they are looking at Frost Queens Claim. As someone who plays a lot of Support Zyra, this makes me very happy indeed.

Why not Pen boots on Vlad?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35162 Posts
February 15 2014 09:11 GMT
#986
On February 15 2014 17:59 kongoline wrote:
are they serious? they destroy my vlad build with Boots of Lucidity, yes make them even shittier who gives a fuck they cost slightly less when they are garbage item slot wise

Riot keeps fucking up CDR hardcore. First it took them an entire year to make Sorcery be 5%, now it's all kinds of awkward for people that aren't supports of buy lucidity, and it's going to be awkward in the future. In addition, they made CDR too plentiful in the recent past, now they're going to make it mega awkward to not waste CDR in the future.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 15 2014 09:11 GMT
#987
Boots of mobility nerf is odd. It wasn't crowding out the other boot buys...
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35162 Posts
February 15 2014 09:22 GMT
#988
On February 15 2014 18:11 wei2coolman wrote:
Boots of mobility nerf is odd. It wasn't crowding out the other boot buys...

I think it was, for the the most part, in the jungle and support. Though CDR boots had their own issues to deal with, mainly being that it was all you got. It constantly has to contend with Tabi and Mercs. Tabi? Bonus auto damage reduction. Mercs? Tenacity. Lucidity? Diddly.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
February 15 2014 09:32 GMT
#989
On February 15 2014 17:59 kongoline wrote:
are they serious? they destroy my vlad build with Boots of Lucidity, yes make them even shittier who gives a fuck they cost slightly less when they are garbage item slot wise

Replace with some CDR blues yo. 6 will be enough to make up for it.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 15 2014 09:33 GMT
#990
I don't know why they want the support items to be designed even further around being attached to another player at the hip.

I'd rather then be beneficial in that scenario but still flexible enough that it doesn't feel punishing for a support to not be in the lane.
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-15 09:51:47
February 15 2014 09:51 GMT
#991
We could have just straight nerfed Boots of Mobility but this would have put it out of reach for secondary uses such as duo roaming or ensuring slower characters catch up to their team.
then says
Coin's general game is one of holding out - you are rewarded for staying in lane as long as possible.
hue
and he completely dodges all the vlad questions wpwpwwp
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
February 15 2014 09:54 GMT
#992
On February 15 2014 18:33 TheYango wrote:
I don't know why they want the support items to be designed even further around being attached to another player at the hip.

I'd rather then be beneficial in that scenario but still flexible enough that it doesn't feel punishing for a support to not be in the lane.

It's just another way to nerf coin/talisman of ascension, which currently clearly stands out above the other support items. In conjunction with the other support item buffs, it should help even things out.

Keyword should.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
February 15 2014 10:04 GMT
#993
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Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 15 2014 11:04 GMT
#994
If only there were boots that gave arpen/ad, similar to sorc shoes. Many ad casters/bruisers do not gain much with zerker greaves, pigeonholing them into either lucidity/mobility/mercs.

Also boots3 buff pls.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 15 2014 11:07 GMT
#995
i hate how this game is so team reliant. there's no reason for me to be in the same elo as some of these idiots lol.

User was warned for this post
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35162 Posts
February 15 2014 11:30 GMT
#996
http://community.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-feedback/ksFTz4jE-planned-43-trinket-cleanup-shop-tooltips
This trinket change. Aw yiss.
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-15 19:32:30
February 15 2014 11:58 GMT
#997
On February 15 2014 20:07 IMoperator wrote:
i hate how this game is so team reliant. there's no reason for me to be in the same elo as some of these idiots lol.

You're exactly where you belong, kid
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 15 2014 12:02 GMT
#998
We'll have to figure out the dangling 5% CDR problem somehow - perhaps we can add 5% CDR to some niche items.

Well it took them a while to figure out. "Hey, bruisers? You're not allowed to build CDR unless you go for niche items like gauntlet or stuff we nerfed the hell out of like FH."
And yeah, it makes no sense to nerf the Lucidity boots like that. Buffing them to 20% CDR would probably make them too slot-efficient in this regard, even with a cost increase, so keeping them at 15%, reducing the cost, and maybe finally putting some other items at 15% instead of 10 would have probably worked better.

Only thing it changes for me is that as Sona or Lulu I'll get my boots 200 gold faster (since I tend to build chalice before boots2 anyway).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 15 2014 12:04 GMT
#999
Gambit to have three subs next week, one of their matches is vs roccat lol the roccat hyperocket is gonna stay strong.
Glorious SEA doto
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-15 12:20:24
February 15 2014 12:16 GMT
#1000
On February 15 2014 16:44 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 16:33 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 15 2014 16:29 GolemMadness wrote:
Does any jungler hit level 3 faster than Eve?

Shaco with absolute perfect jungle setup can reach 3 before Eve.
but requires intricate box splitting with help with all your teammates.


I know Skarner can finish his first clear faster, but idk about hitting 3

No he can't.
As said, perfectly set up Shaco, Kayle can usually tie with Evelynn (killing red buff on smite cd)

On February 15 2014 17:04 TheHumanSensation wrote:
A lot of lv3 timing depends as much upon the rest of your team as it does for the individual jungler, doesn't it? I mean, a lot of teams can stick around for your first buff and cut the time down by a huge enough amount that Jungler v Buffcamp isn't really a crucially important stat that early. Maybe I'm wrong though, I have no experience with Eve.

For most junglers it saves about 4-5s. An exception would be Vi, who has no AoE lvl1, so a good pull can save her maybe 7-8 seconds.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
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