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turamn
United States1374 Posts
On February 12 2014 04:32 wei2coolman wrote: so his ulti turns him into a voidray. and we know how balanced that unit was. and no one has ever flipped 3 heads in a row. EVER. Void Ray with true damage T.T | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On February 12 2014 02:04 Sufficiency wrote: I really want a baron/dragon timer program to be honest. There is no actual skill in timing numbers and add 6/7. This is the biggest reason why I don't like playing jungle. I remember someone on reddit suggested Riot that you can press Ctrl+leftclick on the clock to paste timing out on the chat. It'll be neat if you can do something like ctrl+1+leftclick on the clock for redbuff, 2 for blue buff, 3 for dragon.v.v.v. | ||
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ArchAngelSC
England706 Posts
On February 12 2014 04:32 wei2coolman wrote: so his ulti turns him into a voidray. and we know how balanced that unit was. and no one has ever flipped 3 heads in a row. EVER. Seriously? You're comparing a 50/50 chance with the odds of getting the exact same TWO positions? which happen to be the same two positions you got before they "fixed" it? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On February 12 2014 04:13 killerdog wrote: I remember playing a game a few months ago with a guy who had the most ridiculous bot ever. Every time someone was out of sight on the minimap for more then 4-5 seconds, it would type "XXXX Is missing" and as soon as they reappeared after that it would ping them and say "XXX is here." So the enemy leona is sitting in the bush looking out ever now and then so we get + Show Spoiler + 04:00 Caitlyn: Leona Is missing *ping* 04:09 Caitlyn: Leona is here 04:12 Caitlyn: Jax is missing 04:13 Caitlyn: Leona Is missing *ping* 04:14 Caitlyn: Jax is here *ping* 04:16 Caitlyn: Leona is here 04:21 Caitlyn: Leona Is missing *ping* 04:22 Caitlyn: Leona is here 04:00 Caitlyn: Leona Is missing *ping* 04:02 Caitlyn: Leona is here The entire game. It was interesting... Must have been helpful to keep track of dragon timer. | ||
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
On February 12 2014 04:38 ArchAngelSC wrote: Seriously? You're comparing a 50/50 chance with the odds of getting the exact same TWO positions? which happen to be the same two positions you got before they "fixed" it? (2/5 * 1/4)^3 = 0.1% chance for that to happen. Seems unlikely, but who knows. (Or, about the same as flipping 10 heads in a row) | ||
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EchOne
United States2906 Posts
On February 12 2014 04:38 ArchAngelSC wrote: Seriously? You're comparing a 50/50 chance with the odds of getting the exact same TWO positions? which happen to be the same two positions you got before they "fixed" it? I think the chance of getting either first or last pick 3 instances in a row is 6.4%? (2/5)^3? I'm not a maths guy so corrections are appreciated. Anyways, while low, that's far from impossible. You're less likely to roll a natural 20 on a d20. | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On February 12 2014 04:38 ArchAngelSC wrote: Seriously? You're comparing a 50/50 chance with the odds of getting the exact same TWO positions? which happen to be the same two positions you got before they "fixed" it? If it were patched, probability of your duo getting first/last in the same order: 1/5 * 1/4 = 1/20, and probability of it happening 3 times consecutively: 1/20 ^ 3 = 1/8000. Call this P(B given A) Probability that pick order was patched, call this P(A) Bayes Theorem: P(A given B) = (P(B given A) * P(A)) / P(B) = 1/8000 * P(A) divided by (1/8000) * P(A) + 1 * (1-P(A)) = P(A)/8000 divided by 1 - 7999/8000 * P(A) Even assuming that the chance they forgot to patch it but included it in the patch notes was only 0.1%, then the chance that it was patched given three consecutive first/last positions is only about 11.1% [someone pls check maths, haven't done this in five+ years] | ||
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Celial
2602 Posts
I want a champ that has the option to both hardcarry and be a tank (not at the same time, mind you). It needs to be outside of the current fotm meta though, I know that Vi would fit exactly that description but she is either banned or picked every game. I also want to be able to either outright beat or safely escape popular junglers. I prefer a more farm heavy playstyle, but want decent ganks (so Shyvana is out). I played a lot of Olaf recently, but I feel that while I can stay a (minor) threat in lategame with true damage, I really cannot pick up a struggling team on my back and carry it. Even if I do VERY well for myself. Pantheon, Vi, Wukong, Khazix, Elise, Olaf... etc all FOTM that I don't want to play. I like to play champions that are very rarely popular but still insanely strong (and do well even when behind), just like my favorite support Karma. Any ideas? | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 12 2014 04:56 Celial wrote: Hey, I'm looking for new jungler to spam but just don't know which champion... I want a champ that has the option to both hardcarry and be a tank (not at the same time, mind you). It needs to be outside of the current fotm meta though, I know that Vi would fit exactly that description but she is either banned or picked every game. I also want to be able to either outright beat or safely escape popular junglers. I prefer a more farm heavy playstyle, but want decent ganks (so Shyvana is out). I played a lot of Olaf recently, but I feel that while I can stay a (minor) threat in lategame with true damage, I really cannot pick up a struggling team on my back and carry it. Even if I do VERY well for myself. Pantheon, Vi, Wukong, Khazix, Elise, Olaf... etc all FOTM that I don't want to play. I like to play champions that are very rarely popular but still insanely strong (and do well even when behind), just like my favorite support Karma. Any ideas? There's a reason why the fotm are fotm. it's because it fits exactly what you want. anything else is pretty much 2nd tier versions to those that you mentioned. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
@celial what about jarvan? or darius! I always had a lot of fun jungling with him. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
On February 12 2014 05:03 Nos- wrote: Xerath ult looks impossible to land if the other guy's moving with any semblance of speed What? It's not harder or easier than it was before, except now the range is bazillion times bigger. | ||
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turamn
United States1374 Posts
On February 12 2014 05:08 JonGalt wrote: celial asks for non fotm champ and wei2coolman responds with... fotm champs. great post bro. @celial what about jarvan? Well I mean, look at what he is asking for. He is looking for something that can hard carry, tank or do damage, be relevant when behind... If a champion can do those things, they are probably already FOTM. Of the stuff you listed Celial, I'd try Jarvan and Xin Zhao. Both can tank up and can snow ball pretty hard early. I like Nocturne myself, but he's a bit less impact pre-six. | ||
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
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canikizu
4860 Posts
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MidnightGladius
China1214 Posts
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
On February 12 2014 04:55 GrandInquisitor wrote: If it were patched, probability of your duo getting first/last in the same order: 1/5 * 1/4 = 1/20, and probability of it happening 3 times consecutively: 1/20 ^ 3 = 1/8000. Call this P(B given A) Probability that pick order was patched, call this P(A) Bayes Theorem: P(A given B) = (P(B given A) * P(A)) / P(B) = 1/8000 * P(A) divided by (1/8000) * P(A) + 1 * (1-P(A)) = P(A)/8000 divided by 1 - 7999/8000 * P(A) Even assuming that the chance they forgot to patch it but included it in the patch notes was only 0.1%, then the chance that it was patched given three consecutive first/last positions is only about 11.1% [someone pls check maths, haven't done this in five+ years] It's actually (2/5 * 1/4)^3, because the person who created the game invite will automatically be first spot if either one of the two gets 1st spot. Still, that's only 0.1% chance. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 12 2014 05:08 JonGalt wrote: celial asks for non fotm champ and wei2coolman responds with... fotm champs. great post bro. @celial what about jarvan? or darius! I always had a lot of fun jungling with him. I'm saying that's such a silly question. that's like asking for "I want a food that incorporates ground beef in a flat form, in between two pieces of bread, but it can't be a sandwich or a burger". | ||
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Celial
2602 Posts
On February 12 2014 05:12 turamn wrote: Well I mean, look at what he is asking for. He is looking for something that can hard carry, tank or do damage, be relevant when behind... If a champion can do those things, they are probably already FOTM. Of the stuff you listed Celial, I'd try Jarvan and Xin Zhao. Both can tank up and can snow ball pretty hard early. I like Nocturne myself, but he's a bit less impact pre-six. Yeah just not at the same time, but efficient with different build paths. Jarvan sounds interesting, flag and ult can be still relevant (plus free armor on flag!). I don't think Xin can do that as well, although he probably leans more torwards damage. I feel like Xin is really strong in midgame skirmishes,but doesn't do much else. Doesn't Darius have huuuge mana problems? | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
So that's 1/(binom(5,3)) = 1/10 (same as 2/5*1/4) | ||
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