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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On February 12 2014 06:09 Ghost-z wrote:
Run Aatrox jungle as he's probably the best jungler who isn't FotM. Can build full AD and survive on lifesteal or full tank and deal damage with W. Q and E are both exceptionally good at chasing and running away. Provides both hard and soft CC. Passive makes tower early dives easy and risk free.
I was something like 11/1 on aatrox in S3, how is he in S4. I pretty much had one aatrox playstyle which was pretty much trying mimic lovelin and maximise ganks and minimise farm. Should I farm more and can you still start dblade.
On February 12 2014 06:10 Celial wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2014 05:27 Gahlo wrote:On February 12 2014 04:56 Celial wrote:
Hey, I'm looking for new jungler to spam but just don't know which champion...
I want a champ that has the option to both hardcarry and be a tank (not at the same time, mind you). It needs to be outside of the current fotm meta though, I know that Vi would fit exactly that description but she is either banned or picked every game. I also want to be able to either outright beat or safely escape popular junglers. I prefer a more farm heavy playstyle, but want decent ganks (so Shyvana is out).
I played a lot of Olaf recently, but I feel that while I can stay a (minor) threat in lategame with true damage, I really cannot pick up a struggling team on my back and carry it. Even if I do VERY well for myself. Pantheon, Vi, Wukong, Khazix, Elise, Olaf... etc all FOTM that I don't want to play. I like to play champions that are very rarely popular but still insanely strong (and do well even when behind), just like my favorite support Karma. Any ideas? Here's something you need to remember about soloq: There is no style points when it comes to elo or LP. Yeah but I'm by far not good enough at the game to switch seamlessly between different champions and perform well. Also, I mostly play duo queue nowadays as Karma support with my ADC buddy, so I don't get much practice in on jungle either. I like to focus on a single champion, so I get decent with it. It hurts when that champ is FOTM and banned or picked away from me all the time. Nocturne sounds like a nice idea though. Will give Nocturne and Jarvan a try. Thanks guys <3 Edit: Ninjaken is the legendary Nocturne from NA soloqueue right? So going by his guide on solomid is advised?
Ninjaken is a good guide to follow for carrying yolo queue so it's a good place to start
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Darius jungle is really strong right now if the other team has to dive in teamfights. If your running like jinx+ziggs, and they have dive past a darius, you can just destroy them.
His clear speed is really fast, and he has 0 mana/hp problems after spirit stone.
Been building him lizard>randiuns>FH>more tank, with a hexdrinker if other team has alot of magic damage.
His fighting power at 6 is really strong, but he cant force ganks like vi/noct, so you have to wait for the right time, or get cc assist from lanes.
Hes pretty weak against a team that just kites you in teamfights though. Also, stuff like khazix can just manhandle you in the jungle, but you still are better late then him. Tanks just scale better then assasains from jungle.
Grabbing a khazix mid leap is so much fun too, DENIED.
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On February 12 2014 06:02 RouaF wrote:
amumu is real terror right now, very good choice if you want a non fotm champ that can carry easily
but maybe he's still banned at low elo ?
Ye, he gets banned a lot. It's super annoying. See Donger banned a lot too whenever I do draft pick which makes even less sense.
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On February 12 2014 06:03 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2014 05:56 Sufficiency wrote:On February 12 2014 05:45 Fusilero wrote:On February 12 2014 05:41 turamn wrote:On February 12 2014 05:40 Sufficiency wrote:
Amumu best carry jungle. I had an Amumu the other week build straight damage. Death Cap, Void, Wraith stone. Dude's ult was hitting for 1200 damage lol Can confirm, get carried loads by an AP mumu. It hurts man nobody expects to get insta chunked near death by an ult. Blah. AP Amumu is terrible. Max CDR Amumu with Randuin and FH is the best =3 Pls, wraith > liandry > 1v5 ez pz. WHAT THE FUCK, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK. WHERE'S CAELYM,
More important, who are these BR players?
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On February 12 2014 06:21 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2014 06:03 Fusilero wrote:On February 12 2014 05:56 Sufficiency wrote:On February 12 2014 05:45 Fusilero wrote:On February 12 2014 05:41 turamn wrote:On February 12 2014 05:40 Sufficiency wrote:
Amumu best carry jungle. I had an Amumu the other week build straight damage. Death Cap, Void, Wraith stone. Dude's ult was hitting for 1200 damage lol Can confirm, get carried loads by an AP mumu. It hurts man nobody expects to get insta chunked near death by an ult. Blah. AP Amumu is terrible. Max CDR Amumu with Randuin and FH is the best =3 Pls, wraith > liandry > 1v5 ez pz. https://twitter.com/dscarra/status/433344998445027328WHAT THE FUCK, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK. WHERE'S CAELYM, More important, who are these BR players?
BrTT, mylon (keyd's previous ADC, now top) and loop
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BrTT from Pain?
Br scene #1, this team is gonna win S4.
#BRelieve
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On February 12 2014 06:21 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2014 06:03 Fusilero wrote:On February 12 2014 05:56 Sufficiency wrote:On February 12 2014 05:45 Fusilero wrote:On February 12 2014 05:41 turamn wrote:On February 12 2014 05:40 Sufficiency wrote:
Amumu best carry jungle. I had an Amumu the other week build straight damage. Death Cap, Void, Wraith stone. Dude's ult was hitting for 1200 damage lol Can confirm, get carried loads by an AP mumu. It hurts man nobody expects to get insta chunked near death by an ult. Blah. AP Amumu is terrible. Max CDR Amumu with Randuin and FH is the best =3 Pls, wraith > liandry > 1v5 ez pz. https://twitter.com/dscarra/status/433344998445027328WHAT THE FUCK, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK. WHERE'S CAELYM, More important, HUE are these BR players?
ftfy
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DBlade start hasn't really changed for Aatrox so yes you can run it although its only good for early pressure and when you don't want any jungler items in S3. But now in S4 you almost have to get one of the upgraded SS items just for the extra gold they bring. I haven't got many games on him in S4 yet but I've been starting machete+5 then buying double long swords. I don't think SS is that good on him (i used madreds in S3) so I skip SS until i can upgrade straight to the full Lizard Elder jungle item. I still buy 1-2 Dblades if the enemy jungler is invading a lot or if I am invading.
I'm not sold on whether I should max W or E first. I always take Q at level one for passive stacks.
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Q is also arguably Aatrox's most useful skill. It's only a one point wonder tho.
Quick question from people who've played rework Skarner. Does the rooting of the target Skarner ults effectively make it so you can't flash out of it? Because honestly that's all he really needed (maybe a slight W buff). The rest of the rework seem like a straight nerf to me. There's also the fact that Skarner can't get Shurelya's anymore (unless the gives up the raw efficiency of spirit stone items), which hurts him even more since now he's even more flash reliant.
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does anybody know if velkoz is manaless or not?
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On February 12 2014 06:36 Amui wrote:
does anybody know if velkoz is manaless or not?
since he's a new champ he's probably manaless with 5 sec cd on most skills and a 60 sec cd ult with 2 dashes, an invis, sustain, a reset mechanic and a self-rez
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I feel like this joke is getting old.
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On February 12 2014 06:46 Ketara wrote:
I feel like this joke is getting old.
Yup.
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On February 12 2014 06:42 onlywonderboy wrote:
He has mana.
Thats only b/c Morello started mumbling "mana" to himself and started wantering around the design teams' offices unshaven and spilling coffee everywhere.
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On February 12 2014 06:46 Ketara wrote:
I feel like this joke is getting old.
I find your lack of humor... disturbing.
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On February 12 2014 04:47 dae wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2014 04:38 ArchAngelSC wrote:On February 12 2014 04:32 wei2coolman wrote:so his ulti turns him into a voidray. and we know how balanced that unit was. On February 12 2014 04:17 ArchAngelSC wrote:
So I've played 3 duo queue games now and have been first/last pick in all of them... I thought this was supposed to be fixed now? and no one has ever flipped 3 heads in a row. EVER. Seriously? You're comparing a 50/50 chance with the odds of getting the exact same TWO positions? which happen to be the same two positions you got before they "fixed" it? (2/5 * 1/4)^3 = 0.1% chance for that to happen. Seems unlikely, but who knows. (Or, about the same as flipping 10 heads in a row)
So a little probability lesson for today
When discussing probabilities in that manner the only thing that is generally being looked at is the calculated probability for an individual segment. Not the probability for what actually happened. People who get mad at streaks are generally exhibiting an observation bias.
E.G. Lets suggest that we play 9 games in a row and we want to know the probability of seeing, in those 9 games a situation where we get FP/LP on our duo 3 times in a row.
Well there are many more combinations than is immediately obvious as to how many combinations exist and the individual probability of each one, while very low, all gets added together.
For instance there are 16 combinations in which any particular streak exists, there are 5 potential streaks but some of the streaks overlap and are the same combination. Assuming independence this puts a maximum value on the likelihood at 8%(it will actually be slightly smaller than this). As you play more games the probability of a streak of 3 increases.
So its unlikely but not too unlikely....
Until you take it to its logical conclusion. Suppose that every TL' general played those same 9 games and suppose furthermore than those which did not see an uncommon situation did not come into the thread to report it, but only some fraction of the people who did see an uncommon situation did.
So now we have say 50 people, each looking at a 7% probability that this 3 streak or more happens. The probability that none of the 50 people who report to the chat encountered the completely random situation in which they got a streak of 3 in a row is about 2%.
Now here is the real thing. If you were getting the first/last before the patch then there would be zero games in which you also did not get the same first/last after the patch if nothing was changed. So testing whether or not its working is fairly easy. Has anyone duo'd and not gotten first/last with people they know have divergent MMR?
If yes, its probably just that you got unlucky
edit: Another way to think about it is by looking at the lottery.
The probability of winning the lottery is something like 1/200,000,000. But this does not mean that no one wins the lottery because individually its extremely unlikely. It also doesn't mean that the actual probability isn't 1/200,000,000 if you(or your buddy, or your work mate, or someone in your city) wins.
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On February 12 2014 06:43 RouaF wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2014 06:36 Amui wrote:
does anybody know if velkoz is manaless or not? since he's a new champ he's probably manaless with 5 sec cd on most skills and a 60 sec cd ult with 2 dashes, an invis, sustain, a reset mechanic and a self-rez
You can only choose 4 out of those 7 things.
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On February 12 2014 06:51 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2014 06:46 Ketara wrote:
I feel like this joke is getting old. I find your lack of humor... disturbing.
It's just such a dated joke. I mean, look at the last champ who came out. He doesn't have a self rez!
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