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[Patch 4.2] Xerath/Skarner General Discussion - Page 13
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
Math is hard, So is remembering whether its 4/5/6 or 5/6/7 or 6/7/8 | ||
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
On February 12 2014 01:58 wei2coolman wrote: So how am I suppose to playout the leblanc matchup as lulu? Or any caster for that matter. It feels impossible to retaliate if leblanc gets the silence off. if you can anticipate her going in on you a preemptive E shield on yourself seems to help a lot, if she overcommits and you survive the silence duration it seems like you're in a pretty good spot. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On February 12 2014 03:01 dae wrote: Math is hard, So is remembering whether its 4/5/6 or 5/6/7 or 6/7/8 lol eu | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Apparently he can't use his other skills while self rooted, so when he ults he's just going to use all 3 charges ASAP and then go back to his old thing. I thought what made Xerath different and cool was the self root mechanic. I think moving that to his ult was a great idea, but I wanted there to be some incentive for him to maintain the root for the full 10 seconds, rather than it just being him getting in and out of it as fast as possible. | ||
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
On February 12 2014 01:56 cLutZ wrote: I think there was real value to Skarner not needing to have his E in the old kit. Its not even a 1 Point wonder now, which is really an important thing to have in most kits. yeah it might have been okay to remove his permaslow and make his speed boost worse with a ramp up time, but they also removed a ton of early and mid-game power with his skill leveling being much less effective because the important parts of his kit are spread across 3 skills now instead of 2. and of course this hurts his mana efficiency as well, for example using his W in the jungle for sustain now gives you literally 0 damage for the mana you spend. btw i checked to make sure and you still lose the ms buff when your shield is popped so the ramp up time is a legit kick in the balls. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On February 12 2014 01:56 cLutZ wrote: I think there was real value to Skarner not needing to have his E in the old kit. Its not even a 1 Point wonder now, which is really an important thing to have in most kits. I think if any ability is the one pointer W will be. There's no way you're going to level it over E when E gives you a better slow and damage while W only gives you a few more move % and survivability. Perhaps W could use a numbers tweak, the mobility on it was nerfed and without the AS it's actually possible that people will forgo it entirely for E. That's mainly a numbers problem. I still think it's a win from a design standpoint, movespeed rampup aside. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 12 2014 03:13 chalice wrote: if you can anticipate her going in on you a preemptive E shield on yourself seems to help a lot, if she overcommits and you survive the silence duration it seems like you're in a pretty good spot. Even if I get the shield in, which is like maybe 50% of the time, the silence still hits me, and I still take a fuck ton of damage, even if I choose to get 2 points in E by level 6, I'm still in a world of pain. What I found out was the most successful his landing the polymorph as she goes in, but usually by then the spell still land, and I'm still in a world of pain. Maybe I just need to react faster :/ I hate playing against leblanc, even before they buffed the living shit out of her. | ||
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kongoline
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
In university the math courses I needed to take only require me to do 1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 1 at most. | ||
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
On February 12 2014 03:38 phyvo wrote: I think if any ability is the one pointer W will be. There's no way you're going to level it over E when E gives you a better slow and damage while W only gives you a few more move % and survivability. Perhaps W could use a numbers tweak, the mobility on it was nerfed and without the AS it's actually possible that people will forgo it entirely for E. That's mainly a numbers problem. I still think it's a win from a design standpoint, movespeed rampup aside. see you're looking at it from some theoretical, and entirely subjective, viewpoint of what you think champion design should be. meanwhile people that actually want to play skarner are looking at it from a champion balance standpoint where they took one of the least played champions and made him even worse. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On February 12 2014 03:01 dae wrote: Math is hard, So is remembering whether its 4/5/6 or 5/6/7 or 6/7/8 When it's actually 4/5/6/7 | ||
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snow2.0
Germany2073 Posts
My favoured support is thresh, i approve. Skarner runs at team trying to catch a straggler with his ult, 98% predictable positioning. Skarner ults, i hook, skarner brings team mate + a free kill to us, then goes fetal position and cries. | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On February 12 2014 01:32 LaNague wrote: there are bots that are champion specific. For example a cass bot will autocast your E on people that are poisoned, which results in cass able to walk even back while casting E forward. It will also block the ult if people dont face her. Stuff like that. You need an expert in pattern recognition to combat those. I remember playing a game a few months ago with a guy who had the most ridiculous bot ever. Every time someone was out of sight on the minimap for more then 4-5 seconds, it would type "XXXX Is missing" and as soon as they reappeared after that it would ping them and say "XXX is here." So the enemy leona is sitting in the bush looking out ever now and then so we get 04:00 Caitlyn: Leona Is missing *ping* 04:09 Caitlyn: Leona is here 04:12 Caitlyn: Jax is missing 04:13 Caitlyn: Leona Is missing *ping* 04:14 Caitlyn: Jax is here *ping* 04:16 Caitlyn: Leona is here 04:21 Caitlyn: Leona Is missing *ping* 04:22 Caitlyn: Leona is here 04:00 Caitlyn: Leona Is missing *ping* 04:02 Caitlyn: Leona is here The entire game. It was interesting... | ||
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ArchAngelSC
England706 Posts
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On February 12 2014 04:17 ArchAngelSC wrote: So I've played 3 duo queue games now and have been first/last pick in all of them... I thought this was supposed to be fixed now? Random is random. You just have weird luck.  | ||
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turamn
United States1374 Posts
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/champions-skins/champion-reveal/velkoz-eye-void-revealed | ||
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
I didn't know Canada was eu. | ||
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Schwopzi
Netherlands954 Posts
On February 12 2014 04:17 ArchAngelSC wrote: So I've played 3 duo queue games now and have been first/last pick in all of them... I thought this was supposed to be fixed now? N=3 Why are you drawing conclusions? | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 12 2014 04:26 turamn wrote: Vel'koz reveal is up! http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/champions-skins/champion-reveal/velkoz-eye-void-revealed so his ulti turns him into a voidray. and we know how balanced that unit was. On February 12 2014 04:17 ArchAngelSC wrote: So I've played 3 duo queue games now and have been first/last pick in all of them... I thought this was supposed to be fixed now? and no one has ever flipped 3 heads in a row. EVER. | ||
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
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