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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
NoName just blows cock. Plz replace. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21245 Posts
Uzi's "poor influence" on team atmosphere is certainly true, but it's a bit overstated, and I don't think it will be an issue on LMQ because Uzi just really likes to win, and LMQ can reasonably expect to win a looooot more than they lose in NA LCS. Vasili definitely top 1/2 ADC in NA. NoName is indeed shit. And apparently some pros on NA think he's the best player on the team? NA pls. edit: V hi5 yango o/ | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
EDIT: As far as Xiaoweixiao--I've said this before: it speaks volumes about his play that Lucky stayed on Royal and Xiaoweixiao got "demoted" to LMQ (because really, any player on LMQ that's good enough moves up to Royal and anyone that sucks gets demoted to LMQ--up to this point, LMQ has basically just gotten the leftovers from Royal). There's no way that Uzi isn't an upgrade over him. On February 25 2014 01:40 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: XWX is not actually a good farmer, he farms by sacrificing presence and roam and just general usefulness. At least he actually wins some lanes on NA cuz its NA. It was worse on Royal/LMQ in G-League/LPL when he would lose every lane vs. any decent mid, and then do nothing and just be useless the whole game. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On February 25 2014 01:42 TheYango wrote: As long as LMQ keeps winning games, Uzi's "poor influence" won't matter. He's just a rager when his team loses is all, lol. EDIT: As far as Xiaoweixiao--I've said this before: it speaks volumes about his play that Lucky stayed on Royal and Xiaoweixiao got "demoted" to LMQ (because really, any player on LMQ that's good enough moves up to Royal and anyone that sucks gets demoted to LMQ--up to this point, LMQ has basically just gotten the leftovers from Royal). There's no way that Uzi isn't an upgrade over him. At least he actually wins some lanes on NA cuz its NA. It was worse on Royal/LMQ in G-League/LPL when he would lose every lane vs. any decent mid, and then do nothing and just be useless the whole game. Isn't Uzi like 16? Do people expect teenagers in China to somehow be different and less moody than teens in America? The coach just needs to be a parental figure if he rages too hard. Plus, its not like having an overbearing personality prevents a team from being competitive, TSM did it with Regi for years. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21245 Posts
I don't think anyone with knowledge would argue against bringing Uzi to LMQ would be an ugprade. It's awkward because Uzi is the best player on the team by far individually so it makes it difficult to really limit him or anything of the sort. | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On February 25 2014 00:21 Gahlo wrote: Yeah, that's a pretty poor statement. It assumes that Cass always has blue, which obviously isn't the case. So you make your first big item a "worst case scneario" crutch item? If you start getting denied blues are are losing lane becasue of it, then just buy a tear or chalice or something. The idea that you should build a utility/non bullying item first just because of the risk you might fall behind feels very recursive. Solo q on champions like cassiopeia is basically, try and use her insane early damage to snowball into the mid game and wreck everyones faces, hence why you build mpen, to boost your early damage as much as possible to enable you to crush lane and snowball, (plus haunting guise scales well, as liandrys + rylias is just insane damage/kiting potential against bruisers). Making your default itemisation the "oh shit i'm screwed" itemisation reminds me of playing with my silver friend who goes "just got a double kill on syndra lvl 3, fk damage, i'll get a catalyst so i won't lose lane." | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
Jax is soloQ counter to trundle but its quite easy to work around him with a premade. Cheesing an item build is very eeeh Chalice/tear lets you shove lanes in so it easier to control blue and ward. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 25 2014 02:04 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: It's awkward because Uzi is the best player on the team by far individually so it makes it difficult to really limit him or anything of the sort. Yeah, that's the problem. Consider that this guy basically went into the professional scene being considered a god among ADCs. Now if you're the coach of that team, do you want to risk potentially being blamed for him leaving the team when you talk down to him and try to be too pushy with him? | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
can xwx jungle? | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 25 2014 02:14 TheYango wrote: Yeah, that's the problem. Consider that this guy basically went into the professional scene being considered a god among ADCs. Now if you're the coach of that team, do you want to risk potentially being blamed for him leaving the team when you talk down to him and try to be too pushy with him? How good is Uzi mid? Cuz realistically that's where they're putting him when they make it to LCS. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On February 25 2014 00:53 cLutZ wrote: Well hes fairly even vs. Renekton anyways. Then of course there is Jax and Gragas who both seem to make life painful. On top of that his counterpick value seems dubious depending on overall team compositions judging by his overall record. eh. I think his overall record is bad because it feels like some teams are just picking him without really understanding why he was even picked up in the first place. From a quick check of NA LCS, most of Trundle's losses are because they picked him into Renekton/Jax (who he doesn't do particularly well against) or because he was played by XDG. In the other games he does decently well. In contrast, Trundle has a 66% winrate in EU LCS, where he's picked usually only against Shyv/Mundo. Trundle feels like purely a counterpick to the super tanks that don't have a particularly dominating early game so he can farm up a Bork in peace then duel his top lane counterpart at ease with Bork plus his ult. Then he can transition that into a reasonably strong teamfight presence by crippling the enemy bruiser while being nigh unkillable for 8 seconds by almost doubling his effective hp with his ult. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 25 2014 02:43 zulu_nation8 wrote: I think ackerman is bad I don't know where to put ackerman. I keep hearing all this hype, and last year he was very strong. But from what I've seen in the Challenger scene, he looks like Darien when he plays. Dies a bunch of time on top lane, but still stays relevant. On February 25 2014 02:44 Ryuu314 wrote: eh. I think his overall record is bad because it feels like some teams are just picking him without really understanding why he was even picked up in the first place. From a quick check of NA LCS, most of Trundle's losses are because they picked him into Renekton/Jax (who he doesn't do particularly well against) or because he was played by XDG. In the other games he does decently well. In contrast, Trundle has a 66% winrate in EU LCS, where he's picked usually only against Shyv/Mundo. Trundle feels like purely a counterpick to the super tanks that don't have a particularly dominating early game so he can farm up a Bork in peace then duel his top lane counterpart at ease with Bork plus his ult. Then he can transition that into a reasonably strong teamfight presence by crippling the enemy bruiser while being nigh unkillable for 8 seconds by almost doubling his effective hp with his ult. Actually in EU LCS, we have been seeing Trundle blind pick'd into matchups more often than used as a counterpick. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On February 25 2014 02:47 wei2coolman wrote: I don't know where to put ackerman. I keep hearing all this hype, and last year he was very strong. But from what I've seen in the Challenger scene, he looks like Darien when he plays. Dies a bunch of time on top lane, but still stays relevant. Actually in EU LCS, we have been seeing Trundle blind pick'd into matchups more often than used as a counterpick. hm. maybe NA LCS top laners just suck with Trundle then. Either that or XDG is really pulling the stats down. IIRC, XDG has picked Trundle more than other teams and they haven't exactly been winning games. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21245 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On February 25 2014 02:56 Ryuu314 wrote: hm. maybe NA LCS top laners just suck with Trundle then. Either that or XDG is really pulling the stats down. IIRC, XDG has picked Trundle more than other teams and they haven't exactly been winning games. I agree with your first post. Also, I think the EU teams just don't have a Trundle counter in their repertoire so much, considering Soaz picked Leblanc into him. EU toplane has always been full of wierdos. | ||
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