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On February 25 2014 02:56 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2014 02:47 wei2coolman wrote:On February 25 2014 02:43 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I think ackerman is bad I don't know where to put ackerman. I keep hearing all this hype, and last year he was very strong. But from what I've seen in the Challenger scene, he looks like Darien when he plays. Dies a bunch of time on top lane, but still stays relevant. On February 25 2014 02:44 Ryuu314 wrote:On February 25 2014 00:53 cLutZ wrote:
Well hes fairly even vs. Renekton anyways. Then of course there is Jax and Gragas who both seem to make life painful. On top of that his counterpick value seems dubious depending on overall team compositions judging by his overall record. eh. I think his overall record is bad because it feels like some teams are just picking him without really understanding why he was even picked up in the first place. From a quick check of NA LCS, most of Trundle's losses are because they picked him into Renekton/Jax (who he doesn't do particularly well against) or because he was played by XDG. In the other games he does decently well. In contrast, Trundle has a 66% winrate in EU LCS, where he's picked usually only against Shyv/Mundo. Trundle feels like purely a counterpick to the super tanks that don't have a particularly dominating early game so he can farm up a Bork in peace then duel his top lane counterpart at ease with Bork plus his ult. Then he can transition that into a reasonably strong teamfight presence by crippling the enemy bruiser while being nigh unkillable for 8 seconds by almost doubling his effective hp with his ult. Actually in EU LCS, we have been seeing Trundle blind pick'd into matchups more often than used as a counterpick. hm. maybe NA LCS top laners just suck with Trundle then. Either that or XDG is really pulling the stats down. IIRC, XDG has picked Trundle more than other teams and they haven't exactly been winning games.
Probably XDG thing. It still saddens me that we don't see any strong counterpicks to blind pick Trundles despite being 6 weeks into LCS. The only thing we've seen is Coasts's Jax pick against it.
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On February 23 2014 19:05 Dusty wrote:
neo is a fucking sandwich
User was warned for this post
When I read this, I immediately pictured Joe Pesci saying this randomly to Robert de Niro. I am wrecked for the day. Thanks!
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On February 25 2014 02:59 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:They can just have Uzi come jungle and bench NoName 
LMQ go full XDG?
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It's not XDG when they're benching the worst member of their team.
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On February 25 2014 01:42 TheYango wrote:
because really, any player on LMQ that's good enough moves up to Royal and anyone that sucks gets demoted to LMQ--up to this point, LMQ has basically just gotten the leftovers from Royal
I thought Godlike was really good. Is Yao better than him?
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uzi has the mechanics for mid for sure. it is just a question of motivation and emo management. i dont think him jungling would work becuz he'll prob rage too much in a support rather than carry role.
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On February 25 2014 03:05 AlterKot wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2014 01:42 TheYango wrote:
because really, any player on LMQ that's good enough moves up to Royal and anyone that sucks gets demoted to LMQ--up to this point, LMQ has basically just gotten the leftovers from Royal I thought Godlike was really good. Is Yao better than him?
he is good on renek and kennen but not that smart in lane and can die a lot if camped.
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On February 25 2014 03:06 oneofthem wrote:
uzi has the mechanics for mid for sure. it is just a question of motivation and emo management. i dont think him jungling would work becuz he'll prob rage too much in a support rather than carry role.
During his stint playing jungle all he did was play Aatrox and build full AD and 1v5 the enemy team in their base at ~20 minutes. It seriously happened like every other game it was pretty lol, so he can probably do that if he comes to NA.
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On February 25 2014 03:01 lilwisper wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2014 19:05 Dusty wrote:
neo is a fucking sandwich
User was warned for this post When I read this, I immediately pictured Joe Pesci saying this randomly to Robert de Niro. I am wrecked for the day. Thanks!
he's fuckin acting like he's half a sandwich or something jesus christ
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In terms of raw skill uzi could probably succeed in any role if he wanted to, his mid laning was a fucking train wreck against World Elite in LPL but it's pretty obvious he's not enjoying zombie royal. Maybe joining LMQ would be what he needs, jungling feels like a waste of uzi but it would be a good excuse to ditch noname so maybe worth there.
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When should I do Hydra and when Botrk on Trundle?
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On February 25 2014 03:53 AlterKot wrote:
When should I do Hydra and when Botrk on Trundle?
Hydra if you keep getting shoved in, and need to match up in wave clear.
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On February 25 2014 03:41 Fusilero wrote:
In terms of raw skill uzi could probably succeed in any role if he wanted to, his mid laning was a fucking train wreck against World Elite in LPL but it's pretty obvious he's not enjoying zombie royal. Maybe joining LMQ would be what he needs, jungling feels like a waste of uzi but it would be a good excuse to ditch noname so maybe worth there.
there are vods of him playing mid well against people like cool but it is soloq
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Speaking of Cassiopeia, has anyone actually seen this Cassiopeia perfect kiting bot that is often claimed on reddit?
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I don't know about the bot but I have seen Cass getting more popular recently.
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On February 25 2014 03:01 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2014 02:56 Ryuu314 wrote:On February 25 2014 02:47 wei2coolman wrote:On February 25 2014 02:43 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I think ackerman is bad I don't know where to put ackerman. I keep hearing all this hype, and last year he was very strong. But from what I've seen in the Challenger scene, he looks like Darien when he plays. Dies a bunch of time on top lane, but still stays relevant. On February 25 2014 02:44 Ryuu314 wrote:On February 25 2014 00:53 cLutZ wrote:
Well hes fairly even vs. Renekton anyways. Then of course there is Jax and Gragas who both seem to make life painful. On top of that his counterpick value seems dubious depending on overall team compositions judging by his overall record. eh. I think his overall record is bad because it feels like some teams are just picking him without really understanding why he was even picked up in the first place. From a quick check of NA LCS, most of Trundle's losses are because they picked him into Renekton/Jax (who he doesn't do particularly well against) or because he was played by XDG. In the other games he does decently well. In contrast, Trundle has a 66% winrate in EU LCS, where he's picked usually only against Shyv/Mundo. Trundle feels like purely a counterpick to the super tanks that don't have a particularly dominating early game so he can farm up a Bork in peace then duel his top lane counterpart at ease with Bork plus his ult. Then he can transition that into a reasonably strong teamfight presence by crippling the enemy bruiser while being nigh unkillable for 8 seconds by almost doubling his effective hp with his ult. Actually in EU LCS, we have been seeing Trundle blind pick'd into matchups more often than used as a counterpick. hm. maybe NA LCS top laners just suck with Trundle then. Either that or XDG is really pulling the stats down. IIRC, XDG has picked Trundle more than other teams and they haven't exactly been winning games. Probably XDG thing. It still saddens me that we don't see any strong counterpicks to blind pick Trundles despite being 6 weeks into LCS. The only thing we've seen is Coasts's Jax pick against it.
Don't forget Innox going Gragas against it.
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On February 25 2014 04:09 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2014 03:01 wei2coolman wrote:On February 25 2014 02:56 Ryuu314 wrote:On February 25 2014 02:47 wei2coolman wrote:On February 25 2014 02:43 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I think ackerman is bad I don't know where to put ackerman. I keep hearing all this hype, and last year he was very strong. But from what I've seen in the Challenger scene, he looks like Darien when he plays. Dies a bunch of time on top lane, but still stays relevant. On February 25 2014 02:44 Ryuu314 wrote:On February 25 2014 00:53 cLutZ wrote:
Well hes fairly even vs. Renekton anyways. Then of course there is Jax and Gragas who both seem to make life painful. On top of that his counterpick value seems dubious depending on overall team compositions judging by his overall record. eh. I think his overall record is bad because it feels like some teams are just picking him without really understanding why he was even picked up in the first place. From a quick check of NA LCS, most of Trundle's losses are because they picked him into Renekton/Jax (who he doesn't do particularly well against) or because he was played by XDG. In the other games he does decently well. In contrast, Trundle has a 66% winrate in EU LCS, where he's picked usually only against Shyv/Mundo. Trundle feels like purely a counterpick to the super tanks that don't have a particularly dominating early game so he can farm up a Bork in peace then duel his top lane counterpart at ease with Bork plus his ult. Then he can transition that into a reasonably strong teamfight presence by crippling the enemy bruiser while being nigh unkillable for 8 seconds by almost doubling his effective hp with his ult. Actually in EU LCS, we have been seeing Trundle blind pick'd into matchups more often than used as a counterpick. hm. maybe NA LCS top laners just suck with Trundle then. Either that or XDG is really pulling the stats down. IIRC, XDG has picked Trundle more than other teams and they haven't exactly been winning games. Probably XDG thing. It still saddens me that we don't see any strong counterpicks to blind pick Trundles despite being 6 weeks into LCS. The only thing we've seen is Coasts's Jax pick against it. Don't forget Innox going Gragas against it.
And soaz's leblanc!
Wait
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On February 25 2014 04:09 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2014 03:01 wei2coolman wrote:On February 25 2014 02:56 Ryuu314 wrote:On February 25 2014 02:47 wei2coolman wrote:On February 25 2014 02:43 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I think ackerman is bad I don't know where to put ackerman. I keep hearing all this hype, and last year he was very strong. But from what I've seen in the Challenger scene, he looks like Darien when he plays. Dies a bunch of time on top lane, but still stays relevant. On February 25 2014 02:44 Ryuu314 wrote:On February 25 2014 00:53 cLutZ wrote:
Well hes fairly even vs. Renekton anyways. Then of course there is Jax and Gragas who both seem to make life painful. On top of that his counterpick value seems dubious depending on overall team compositions judging by his overall record. eh. I think his overall record is bad because it feels like some teams are just picking him without really understanding why he was even picked up in the first place. From a quick check of NA LCS, most of Trundle's losses are because they picked him into Renekton/Jax (who he doesn't do particularly well against) or because he was played by XDG. In the other games he does decently well. In contrast, Trundle has a 66% winrate in EU LCS, where he's picked usually only against Shyv/Mundo. Trundle feels like purely a counterpick to the super tanks that don't have a particularly dominating early game so he can farm up a Bork in peace then duel his top lane counterpart at ease with Bork plus his ult. Then he can transition that into a reasonably strong teamfight presence by crippling the enemy bruiser while being nigh unkillable for 8 seconds by almost doubling his effective hp with his ult. Actually in EU LCS, we have been seeing Trundle blind pick'd into matchups more often than used as a counterpick. hm. maybe NA LCS top laners just suck with Trundle then. Either that or XDG is really pulling the stats down. IIRC, XDG has picked Trundle more than other teams and they haven't exactly been winning games. Probably XDG thing. It still saddens me that we don't see any strong counterpicks to blind pick Trundles despite being 6 weeks into LCS. The only thing we've seen is Coasts's Jax pick against it. Don't forget Innox going Gragas against it.
Gragas really wrecked Trundle.
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On February 25 2014 03:58 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2014 03:53 AlterKot wrote:
When should I do Hydra and when Botrk on Trundle? Hydra if you keep getting shoved in, and need to match up in wave clear.
BotRK when you want to kill the lane opponent every time the active is up, especially if they have weak escape mechanisms
On February 25 2014 04:55 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2014 04:09 Swords wrote:On February 25 2014 03:01 wei2coolman wrote:On February 25 2014 02:56 Ryuu314 wrote:On February 25 2014 02:47 wei2coolman wrote:On February 25 2014 02:43 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I think ackerman is bad I don't know where to put ackerman. I keep hearing all this hype, and last year he was very strong. But from what I've seen in the Challenger scene, he looks like Darien when he plays. Dies a bunch of time on top lane, but still stays relevant. On February 25 2014 02:44 Ryuu314 wrote:On February 25 2014 00:53 cLutZ wrote:
Well hes fairly even vs. Renekton anyways. Then of course there is Jax and Gragas who both seem to make life painful. On top of that his counterpick value seems dubious depending on overall team compositions judging by his overall record. eh. I think his overall record is bad because it feels like some teams are just picking him without really understanding why he was even picked up in the first place. From a quick check of NA LCS, most of Trundle's losses are because they picked him into Renekton/Jax (who he doesn't do particularly well against) or because he was played by XDG. In the other games he does decently well. In contrast, Trundle has a 66% winrate in EU LCS, where he's picked usually only against Shyv/Mundo. Trundle feels like purely a counterpick to the super tanks that don't have a particularly dominating early game so he can farm up a Bork in peace then duel his top lane counterpart at ease with Bork plus his ult. Then he can transition that into a reasonably strong teamfight presence by crippling the enemy bruiser while being nigh unkillable for 8 seconds by almost doubling his effective hp with his ult. Actually in EU LCS, we have been seeing Trundle blind pick'd into matchups more often than used as a counterpick. hm. maybe NA LCS top laners just suck with Trundle then. Either that or XDG is really pulling the stats down. IIRC, XDG has picked Trundle more than other teams and they haven't exactly been winning games. Probably XDG thing. It still saddens me that we don't see any strong counterpicks to blind pick Trundles despite being 6 weeks into LCS. The only thing we've seen is Coasts's Jax pick against it. Don't forget Innox going Gragas against it. Gragas really wrecked Trundle.
I think Gragas wrecks practically every melee top by maxing Bodyslam first and spamming it like a madman, no clue why we don't see Gragas top more often.
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I feel so fucking bad for lvl 5 and 9 on my team, paired with a lvl 27 and a couple silvers against enemy team of 15, 17, 20, gold and diamond
got wrecked half a dozen times with my best positioning with gold mundo + diamond poppy tunneling me playing varus (21/0/9 with 25% cdr on flash from boots enchant) and that game wasn't even close ~.~
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