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United States35174 Posts
On February 24 2014 19:52 Drium wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2014 19:26 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
will the "buff spellvamp by removing mana regen from WotA" thread ever stop getting posted every two days on reddit?
noone seems to understand that it is intentionally less gold-efficient on manaless champs because they get free sustain from it I don't think it's that bad of an idea. Nobody buys wota, very few manaless ap casters are getting picked in competitive play, and if they are picked they don't build wota.
It's an issue where regardless of what they do with the item, somebody will complain. If they leave it the way it is, shortsighted vlad players will bemoan not ideal itemization. If they remove the mana regen, people will complain that it's a nerf to Cass.
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On February 24 2014 18:59 1ntrigue wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2014 18:36 AlterKot wrote:
Uzi is playing midlane now and LMQ said in an AMA that he is likely to come to the US once he turns 17 if LMQ is in LCS by then. Yeah, I know he's playing mid atm. There was some speculation when LMQ first came that when/if Uzi came to NA, he would go back to playing ADC. Uzi's mid play hasn't been very inspiring even if he doesn't seem motivated recently.
Unless he can justify his play I don't see why LMQ would want Uzi in America. As ADC Vasili has been pretty on point and carrying almost always.
As a mid-laner, he needs to relearn everything. In the LPL games vs WE, he got stomped so badly it was like plat vs challenger.
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i just discovered in aram that swain with liandries wrecks, EQR and the constant ticks add up so fucking fast
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United States35174 Posts
On February 24 2014 20:22 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
i just discovered in aram that swain with liandries wrecks, EQR and the constant ticks add up so fucking fast
And nobody buys morellos because gotta follow dat mobafire build, it's highly voted!
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Well the new wota has an assortment of awkward stats. It is hard to not complain about it.
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On February 24 2014 19:57 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2014 19:52 Drium wrote:On February 24 2014 19:26 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
will the "buff spellvamp by removing mana regen from WotA" thread ever stop getting posted every two days on reddit?
noone seems to understand that it is intentionally less gold-efficient on manaless champs because they get free sustain from it I don't think it's that bad of an idea. Nobody buys wota, very few manaless ap casters are getting picked in competitive play, and if they are picked they don't build wota. It's an issue where regardless of what they do with the item, somebody will complain. If they leave it the way it is, shortsighted vlad players will bemoan not ideal itemization. If they remove the mana regen, people will complain that it's a nerf to Cass.
Don't cass players rush haunting guise anyway? by the time they would finish wota after guise + boots, they should have blue buff already, so it shouldn't matter. Just guise + boots for imba mpen stacking, into void/rabas/rylias/zhonyas depending on situation, with a revolver thrown in if there's poke going on/after 2-3 items/whenever they back with 1200 gold.
I've only seen cass players get a fast wota if they're being bullied in lane, and if thats happening you probably have bigger problems, but then again, i see cass players so rarely that i don't have the largest sample size.
I can't think of any mana using casters on whom wota is actually core. I just buy it on leblanc or veigar as a 5th/6th item when i'm really fed (oneshotting someone, and healing 50% of your max health in the process is just so hilariously funny in teamfights :D.)
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Cass actually likes an early Tear because she stacks it fast and a HP shield isn't bad at all combined with Zhonya's armour, considering her atrocious base HP and HP/level.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On February 24 2014 20:08 Kavas wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2014 18:59 1ntrigue wrote:On February 24 2014 18:36 AlterKot wrote:
Uzi is playing midlane now and LMQ said in an AMA that he is likely to come to the US once he turns 17 if LMQ is in LCS by then. Yeah, I know he's playing mid atm. There was some speculation when LMQ first came that when/if Uzi came to NA, he would go back to playing ADC. Uzi's mid play hasn't been very inspiring even if he doesn't seem motivated recently. Unless he can justify his play I don't see why LMQ would want Uzi in America. As ADC Vasili has been pretty on point and carrying almost always. As a mid-laner, he needs to relearn everything. In the LPL games vs WE, he got stomped so badly it was like plat vs challenger.
Really I don't think they should replace anyone with uzi, unless mor can handle the puppy (Which considering his track record with non-tabe supports is highly unlikely) anywhere uzi goes is a probable downgrade for the team.
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How is wota core on Cassiopeia?
Revolver I can sort of understand (but even so), but she does not need the CDR and the mana regen is too little for her to care.
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What the fuck am I reading lol Uzi is an absolute upgrade over EVERYONE on LMQ on ANY position.
He will probably bring the most if he replace XWX in mid, because even though NoName is really bad, Uzi despises playing jungle and would probably hog every buff and build damage items, which would force his solo lanes into stupid drafts and playstyles.
Though it's Uzi so even if he did that LMQ might win anyways when Uzi 1v5s.
He's 99% coming to America now anyways, especially seeing how much he hates playing on Royal now + Royal sucking.
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On February 24 2014 22:13 Sufficiency wrote:
How is wota core on Cassiopeia?
Revolver I can sort of understand (but even so), but she does not need the CDR and the mana regen is too little for her to care.
You rack up healing with E spam and its pretty legit on her cause of that tbh.
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United States35174 Posts
On February 24 2014 20:52 killerdog wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2014 19:57 Gahlo wrote:On February 24 2014 19:52 Drium wrote:On February 24 2014 19:26 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
will the "buff spellvamp by removing mana regen from WotA" thread ever stop getting posted every two days on reddit?
noone seems to understand that it is intentionally less gold-efficient on manaless champs because they get free sustain from it I don't think it's that bad of an idea. Nobody buys wota, very few manaless ap casters are getting picked in competitive play, and if they are picked they don't build wota. It's an issue where regardless of what they do with the item, somebody will complain. If they leave it the way it is, shortsighted vlad players will bemoan not ideal itemization. If they remove the mana regen, people will complain that it's a nerf to Cass. Don't cass players rush haunting guise anyway? by the time they would finish wota after guise + boots, they should have blue buff already, so it shouldn't matter. Just guise + boots for imba mpen stacking, into void/rabas/rylias/zhonyas depending on situation, with a revolver thrown in if there's poke going on/after 2-3 items/whenever they back with 1200 gold. I've only seen cass players get a fast wota if they're being bullied in lane, and if thats happening you probably have bigger problems, but then again, i see cass players so rarely that i don't have the largest sample size. I can't think of any mana using casters on whom wota is actually core. I just buy it on leblanc or veigar as a 5th/6th item when i'm really fed (oneshotting someone, and healing 50% of your max health in the process is just so hilariously funny in teamfights :D.)
Yeah, that's a pretty poor statement. It assumes that Cass always has blue, which obviously isn't the case.
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On February 24 2014 19:52 Drium wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2014 19:26 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
will the "buff spellvamp by removing mana regen from WotA" thread ever stop getting posted every two days on reddit?
noone seems to understand that it is intentionally less gold-efficient on manaless champs because they get free sustain from it I don't think it's that bad of an idea. Nobody buys wota, very few manaless ap casters are getting picked in competitive play, and if they are picked they don't build wota.
Wait, you want more manaless AP casters in competitive? I mean, Vlad, when good, ruins competitive play just as much as the current Renekton/Mundo/Shyvana situation.
As an aside, when will people stop blind picking Trundle in the LCS? He seems to me to be a counterpick to Mundo and Shyvana...one who has a fair number of his own counterpicks.
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What is this mythical trundle counterpick I keep hearing about?Pretty much always teams just pick renek/shyv/mundo vs him anyway.
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United States35174 Posts
On February 25 2014 00:40 nafta wrote:
What is this mythical trundle counterpick I keep hearing about?Pretty much always teams just pick renek/shyv/mundo vs him anyway.
Trundle has been pick/banned 34(9 in na, 25 in eu) times in LCS. Which tournament are you watching?
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I meant counterpick to trundle lel.Bad wording.Like I see a lot of people complain about early trundle pick when he can't really get counterpicked at all.
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United States35174 Posts
On February 25 2014 00:47 nafta wrote:
I meant counterpick to trundle lel.Bad wording.Like I see a lot of people complain about early trundle pick when he can't really get counterpicked at all.
idk Jax?
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Well hes fairly even vs. Renekton anyways. Then of course there is Jax and Gragas who both seem to make life painful. On top of that his counterpick value seems dubious depending on overall team compositions judging by his overall record.
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On February 24 2014 18:38 Omnishroud wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2014 17:13 Ryuu314 wrote:On February 24 2014 17:00 Omnishroud wrote:On February 24 2014 16:55 wei2coolman wrote:On February 24 2014 16:29 ticklishmusic wrote:
I still highly recommend autoing in teamfights, its a good skill to have
But seriously, you're missing out quite a bit of damage if you don't auto. Obviously its up to your best judgment of what to do in a teamfight, but if you are relatively safe in the backline and basically all you're going to do until something comes off CD is madly randomly click on the ground, you better right click someone and hit them. Redemption feelz when you miss a bouncing bomb on Ziggs on a low heath enemy but kill them anyway with an enhanced auto.
It's the little things that count. If I'm playing ARAM or being lazy, I won't do stuff like that and I'll win, but not as much or as easily. When I full tryhard, I do all the little things and I win hard and fast. Or at least harder and faster. The question isn't whether or not you should auto. It's whether or not it's worth invest 3k+ gold on an item that requires you to auto in between spells to get it's gold's worth, versus the opportunity cost of just getting a Deathcap or voidstaff instead. Especially if your kit is all about spells that hit at the 1k range mark. The lichbane conversation ended a while ago after 5HIT and MB weighed in with its actual effectiveness vs more AP. You and others were rofloling saying a Lux shouldnt even be autoattacking in the first place. Why are you spouting crap? FYI her passive is included in that kit you reference and apparently you let it go to waste. Side note: Lux passive is proc'd by her ult so it's not like it goes to waste if you don't auto. When wei2coolman and FinestHour were rofling about autoattacking, it was in the context of a 5v5 AND in the context of building a Sheen/Lichbane, in which case it's pretty justified. Not at all. They were stating that autoattacking on lux is just bad regardless and not the way "her kit is played" or how she is played. It was a completely seperate statement from the lichbane suggestion that continued before and after it had been dismissed. And autoattacking in a 5v5 with lux, or anybody, for the last time is not a bad thing. @5HIT positioning is a completely different beast to the conversation at hand, positioning takes priority ofc but i dont think you ever position in a way where you cant lay an autoattack down on something because then you are far too out of range of their backline.
Don't put words in my mouth. The first comment I made was strictly about how bad the item was outside of laning. And I've continually prefaced how her kit plays out postlane.
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On February 25 2014 00:00 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
What the fuck am I reading lol Uzi is an absolute upgrade over EVERYONE on LMQ on ANY position.
He will probably bring the most if he replace XWX in mid, because even though NoName is really bad, Uzi despises playing jungle and would probably hog every buff and build damage items, which would force his solo lanes into stupid drafts and playstyles.
Though it's Uzi so even if he did that LMQ might win anyways when Uzi 1v5s.
He's 99% coming to America now anyways, especially seeing how much he hates playing on Royal now + Royal sucking.
Individually I don't find any player on LMQ except Godlike to be particularly strong players. They stomp the NA challenger scene yes, but XWX and Vasilli make weird mistakes rather often, although I guess you can make the claim that they're not trying seriously until they get to LCS. Godlike is a real beast though. As to Uzi I thought the posters were talking about how Uzi is a poor influence on team atmosphere? I know nothing about that though.
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