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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 24 2014 23:53 GMT
#2461
which is why ironically top lane is the second best carry role in solo queue after jungle. A person that actually plays top lane against a person forced into it is just a joke. you'll be playing a 4v5 before you know it unless your jungler is significantly better.

think the challenger statistics went something like jungler > top lane > AD > mid/support
I come in for the scraps
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 24 2014 23:55 GMT
#2462
That doesn't make it the best carry role lol.It is very easy to not fall behind even if you don't play top and are clearly worse than the other guy.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-25 00:09:35
February 25 2014 00:07 GMT
#2463
Depends on the matchup. Vs something like Udyr if you know what you are doing then you shouldn't really lose, but if you make one mistake then you are on straight way to lose (at least from my experience, there are more champs and matchups like that).

Dunno about other elos but at my level winning mid gives you roam, winning bot gives you dragon and winning top gives you t2 turret at best. But then it may be my playstyle or me being bad at handling carry power.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-25 00:23:31
February 25 2014 00:22 GMT
#2464
So that cassiopeia bot thing is a real thing? I think i played one a couple days ago then tbh. Fucker instalocked a cassio support and just did perfect harrass from maxrange, didnt stand a fucking chance. I could go into details about insta poison, fangs if you were anywhere close but meh, she ended something like 16/3/16.

I just assumed it was a smurf / elobooster. It was pretty fucking godlike tbh and the more i think about it the more the behaviour looks "botlike"
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
February 25 2014 00:24 GMT
#2465
On February 25 2014 06:33 Ketara wrote:
Oh Gragas nerf, how delicious you look on the PBE.

Please come soon.


No doubt this guy is the very definition of an OP kit.

Passive, restores % hp on spell cast.
Q = Tons of scaling, tons of base damage, and slows attack speeds for 20%.
W = Passive 100% uptime damage reduction, AD buff and mana restore. No mana cost at all.
E = Double scaling high damage attack that slows targets, can be used for an escape as well.
R = HUGE DAMAGE knockback.

So this guy was designed to be basically a combination of the best abilities in the entire game in addition to having enormous damage?

Hero design of LoL is getting kind of stupid, there is no strategy anymore. It's "heros that can do everything you could possibly want"
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
February 25 2014 00:28 GMT
#2466
On February 25 2014 07:58 Sufficiency wrote:
Now that I am level 30, I am thinking of playing a single champion for ranked. That champion only. If the said champion is banned I will dodge. I obviously don't want a fotm champion, one which is banned too often, or one that is too unstable (subject to upcoming nerf or buff hammer). It would be nicer if the said champion can play multiple roles.

My short list right now:

Cassiopeia (support Cassiopeia is real?)
Mordekaiser (jungle Morde is real?)
Karthus (jungle Karthus IS real)
Warwick
Nami (only play her as support, no one will steal my role)
Soraka (mid Soraka IS real)
Nocturne (mid Noc is real?)

Missing adc Veigar and support Cho
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 25 2014 00:28 GMT
#2467
On February 25 2014 09:24 Talack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2014 06:33 Ketara wrote:
Oh Gragas nerf, how delicious you look on the PBE.

Please come soon.


No doubt this guy is the very definition of an OP kit.

Passive, restores % hp on spell cast.
Q = Tons of scaling, tons of base damage, and slows attack speeds for 20%.
W = Passive 100% uptime damage reduction, AD buff and mana restore. No mana cost at all.
E = Double scaling high damage attack that slows targets, can be used for an escape as well.
R = HUGE DAMAGE knockback.

So this guy was designed to be basically a combination of the best abilities in the entire game in addition to having enormous damage?

Hero design of LoL is getting kind of stupid, there is no strategy anymore. It's "heros that can do everything you could possibly want"

lol Gragas was released in 2010...
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
February 25 2014 00:29 GMT
#2468
On February 25 2014 09:28 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2014 09:24 Talack wrote:
On February 25 2014 06:33 Ketara wrote:
Oh Gragas nerf, how delicious you look on the PBE.

Please come soon.


No doubt this guy is the very definition of an OP kit.

Passive, restores % hp on spell cast.
Q = Tons of scaling, tons of base damage, and slows attack speeds for 20%.
W = Passive 100% uptime damage reduction, AD buff and mana restore. No mana cost at all.
E = Double scaling high damage attack that slows targets, can be used for an escape as well.
R = HUGE DAMAGE knockback.

So this guy was designed to be basically a combination of the best abilities in the entire game in addition to having enormous damage?

Hero design of LoL is getting kind of stupid, there is no strategy anymore. It's "heros that can do everything you could possibly want"

lol Gragas was released in 2010...


Beat me to it, been playing since early S2, that mother fuckers been here since pre-me.
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 25 2014 00:31 GMT
#2469
he has changed so much over time too. when he came out it was the fort pot level 1 with him, body slam you at lvl 2 for half your hp with W on.

Then there was the broken innervating locket tank build on him, always heal never die.

then pure ap.
I come in for the scraps
UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
February 25 2014 00:32 GMT
#2470
Has there been a discussion to what is good against Leblanc? It's not quite permban status yet so its in most of my games and shes pretty strong.
LoL: UnKooL and SoloQFiendUnKooL, SC2: UnKooL
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 25 2014 00:35 GMT
#2471
Honestly I have no clue if there is a counter to good leblancs other than ban.There are champs that can go even but problem is you can't really move out of lane at all unless your jungler is god and provides an insane amound of pressure/vision.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 25 2014 00:53 GMT
#2472
On February 25 2014 09:35 nafta wrote:
Honestly I have no clue if there is a counter to good leblancs other than ban.There are champs that can go even but problem is you can't really move out of lane at all unless your jungler is god and provides an insane amound of pressure/vision.


That is how LB is supposed to be. If she couldn't lane bully and do sick single target damage...there would be no point of playing Leblanc.
Freeeeeeedom
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
February 25 2014 01:14 GMT
#2473
I think most lol assassins suffer from the same problem that they don't have to commit to staying in the fight once they go (either courtesy of resets or similar mechanics). Having the option to delete the target of choice from the other team and generally escape comfortably is super strong. Personally (opinion alert!) I think they'd be much more interesting if they had the choice of being slippery into or out of the fight but not both.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 25 2014 01:17 GMT
#2474
the counter to leblanc in solo q is having some one that isnt an idiot mid and picks up barrier and a champ with good waveclear and simply keeps pushing lane all day. If you can get to teamfights without leblanc having less than 3 kills then you have won mid unless you dont know how to play teamfights or something.
I come in for the scraps
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
February 25 2014 01:26 GMT
#2475
On February 25 2014 09:28 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2014 09:24 Talack wrote:
On February 25 2014 06:33 Ketara wrote:
Oh Gragas nerf, how delicious you look on the PBE.

Please come soon.


No doubt this guy is the very definition of an OP kit.

Passive, restores % hp on spell cast.
Q = Tons of scaling, tons of base damage, and slows attack speeds for 20%.
W = Passive 100% uptime damage reduction, AD buff and mana restore. No mana cost at all.
E = Double scaling high damage attack that slows targets, can be used for an escape as well.
R = HUGE DAMAGE knockback.

So this guy was designed to be basically a combination of the best abilities in the entire game in addition to having enormous damage?

Hero design of LoL is getting kind of stupid, there is no strategy anymore. It's "heros that can do everything you could possibly want"

lol Gragas was released in 2010...

Not sure if parody or stupidity
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Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
February 25 2014 01:26 GMT
#2476
Wow oddone ignores top alot in soloQ, 2 games in a row his toplane have been getting owned and he's just ignored them.
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 25 2014 01:28 GMT
#2477
Talon doesn't have a realistic way out.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 25 2014 01:31 GMT
#2478
On February 25 2014 10:26 Omnishroud wrote:
Wow oddone ignores top alot in soloQ, 2 games in a row his toplane have been getting owned and he's just ignored them.

the in soloq part is unnecessary
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
February 25 2014 01:38 GMT
#2479
On February 25 2014 10:26 Omnishroud wrote:
Wow oddone ignores top alot in soloQ, 2 games in a row his toplane have been getting owned and he's just ignored them.

Top ganks are a waste of time unless there's kill potential and there's probably not a lot of that if his lane is getting owned and on top of that good players will immediately dragon if it's 1v2 top
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-25 01:42:33
February 25 2014 01:41 GMT
#2480
On February 25 2014 10:26 Omnishroud wrote:
Wow oddone ignores top alot in soloQ, 2 games in a row his toplane have been getting owned and he's just ignored them.

Let the dying lanes die.
ganking top is usually a bad idea. leaves open objectives like your buffs+dragon; and the amount of gold you get for the kill is pretty in consequential, unless you're counter ganking an enemy rotation that forces you to go top.
liftlift > tsm
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