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On February 25 2014 09:22 Omnishroud wrote:
So that cassiopeia bot thing is a real thing? I think i played one a couple days ago then tbh. Fucker instalocked a cassio support and just did perfect harrass from maxrange, didnt stand a fucking chance. I could go into details about insta poison, fangs if you were anywhere close but meh, she ended something like 16/3/16.
I just assumed it was a smurf / elobooster. It was pretty fucking godlike tbh and the more i think about it the more the behaviour looks "botlike"
Yeah, I actually saw a video that someone linked on a forum. It's unlisted ofc because scumbags but watching the dude advertise the hack made me sick to my stomach, there was a crazy hud and everything that basically made playing cass completely brainless, like an easier sona.
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On February 25 2014 10:44 phyvo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2014 09:22 Omnishroud wrote:
So that cassiopeia bot thing is a real thing? I think i played one a couple days ago then tbh. Fucker instalocked a cassio support and just did perfect harrass from maxrange, didnt stand a fucking chance. I could go into details about insta poison, fangs if you were anywhere close but meh, she ended something like 16/3/16.
I just assumed it was a smurf / elobooster. It was pretty fucking godlike tbh and the more i think about it the more the behaviour looks "botlike" Yeah, I actually saw a video that someone linked on a forum. It's unlisted ofc because scumbags but watching the dude advertise the hack made me sick to my stomach, there was a crazy hud and everything that basically made playing cass completely brainless, like an easier sona.
It was pretty insane, at one point i tibbers her into E-W-Q, she instantly spams Q-W-E-E and im at like ~20% HP, Flash out, Q--E-E-E onto varus, np. Volibear comes at her, Q-E-E-E-R-Q-E-E flash Q-E double kill on varus. She did all of this while kiting and ulted at the literal last milisecond before volibear flipped her. (Forgive me if i got skills wrong, Q is poison, E is fangs)
On another note - does anyone feel they just suck at a chosen lane? I cant ADC to save my life but all my other lanes are solid. Is this normal even at higher elo (like dia+)
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when a top gets behind through ganks he can roam a bit help with early dragon etc.
korean junglers help top to delay tower going down
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the "worth" of ganking top lane goes down with every level up. hence why junglers usually start the camp furthest from top so they can potentially gank top level 2-4. once people are in the 5-6 area you can actually 5v3 man dragon pretty easily depending on comp so you can't do it after that.
But getting your top ahead early is very important.
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On February 25 2014 04:06 Ketara wrote:
I don't know about the bot but I have seen Cass getting more popular recently.
and almost every single one of them is using script for perfect kiting + E
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Malphite mid might be decent against leblanc? Lulu too i think?
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Yeah can't go wrong with lulu/ori/gragas(maybe ziggs) and just afk farming.
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Galio is probably her worst MU. Outshoves and out tanks her.
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On February 25 2014 11:08 nafta wrote:
Yeah can't go wrong with lulu/ori/gragas(maybe ziggs) and just afk farming.
IMO lulu is more like a roaming mid in soloq. Her roam and counter-gank is superb. I feel like you have to do it in order to completely shut down your assassin type lane opponent since she does not have good late-game scaling to single handedly win a late-game team fight like ori or gragas.
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Veigar is really good against leblanc/cass right now.
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well, if Riot isnt a completely hopeless company, then everyone that is using the cass bot NOW after it had like a 6 month run and finally is going viral, is gonna lose his account.
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Reading through it, that Cassiopeia script is pretty insane. For example automatically bursting the opponent with ult and ignite the moment their hp gets below the kill range and all other sorts of things.
I wonder what Riot could do about it, though? Fixing E to have some animation is one thing, but this script at least does so much more that it still gives the player an enormous unfair advantage. I guess they would need to implement some sort of an AntiHack program but those have so many false positives it can be a total pain.
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Does anybody have a video or replay or something that shows the cassio script in action?
I have not played against it yet and i would love to see how efficient and beastly it is
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On February 25 2014 10:55 Omnishroud wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2014 10:44 phyvo wrote:On February 25 2014 09:22 Omnishroud wrote:
So that cassiopeia bot thing is a real thing? I think i played one a couple days ago then tbh. Fucker instalocked a cassio support and just did perfect harrass from maxrange, didnt stand a fucking chance. I could go into details about insta poison, fangs if you were anywhere close but meh, she ended something like 16/3/16.
I just assumed it was a smurf / elobooster. It was pretty fucking godlike tbh and the more i think about it the more the behaviour looks "botlike" Yeah, I actually saw a video that someone linked on a forum. It's unlisted ofc because scumbags but watching the dude advertise the hack made me sick to my stomach, there was a crazy hud and everything that basically made playing cass completely brainless, like an easier sona. It was pretty insane, at one point i tibbers her into E-W-Q, she instantly spams Q-W-E-E and im at like ~20% HP, Flash out, Q--E-E-E onto varus, np. Volibear comes at her, Q-E-E-E-R-Q-E-E flash Q-E double kill on varus. She did all of this while kiting and ulted at the literal last milisecond before volibear flipped her. (Forgive me if i got skills wrong, Q is poison, E is fangs) On another note - does anyone feel they just suck at a chosen lane? I cant ADC to save my life but all my other lanes are solid. Is this normal even at higher elo (like dia+)
I feel completely lost in mid. I love jungling, I like adc and top, support was more fun in S3 but is still enjoyable. Mid though, uh oh.
Luckily, it's mid, so I'm rarely stuck with it.
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On February 25 2014 12:18 Bam Lee wrote:
Does anybody have a video or replay or something that shows the cassio script in action?
I have not played against it yet and i would love to see how efficient and beastly it is
Here's one of Cass. Notice how in the early clip against the Renekton the movement of the mouse and the cursor compared to what Cass actually does.
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Here's another of a skillshot dodging one. Notice how Vayne instantly reacts when Lee begins the animation on his Q. Yea, the Vayne's fed, but still, not a single skillshot from any of the four champions hits her. EDIT: Nvm, the Twitch lands his cask, barely.
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cass not turning around to E is a bot, but that vayne video shouldnt be
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On February 25 2014 12:38 zulu_nation8 wrote:
cass not turning around to E is a bot, but that vayne video shouldnt be
I can see why you might think that. Take a look at when Cho uses his Rupture on her. She does these tiny micro-movements, almost like twitches in response. No human could click like that while still continuing to autoattack.
Also, a good player could predict those Q's from Lee and sidestep, but those sidesteps were literally in 100% perfect sync with the beginning of Lee's Q animation.
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perhaps but a good vayne with low ping can do all of those things. Cho rupture and Lee Sin Q both have wind up animations. She also got in range of Cho ult.
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On February 25 2014 12:36 Cheap0 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2014 12:18 Bam Lee wrote:
Does anybody have a video or replay or something that shows the cassio script in action?
I have not played against it yet and i would love to see how efficient and beastly it is Here's one of Cass. Notice how in the early clip against the Renekton the movement of the mouse and the cursor compared to what Cass actually does. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aACKwflcmas Here's another of a skillshot dodging one. Notice how Vayne instantly reacts when Lee begins the animation on his Q. Yea, the Vayne's fed, but still, not a single skillshot from any of the four champions hits her. EDIT: Nvm, the Twitch lands his cask, barely. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXgjFK1M9-E
Wow I don't know about the vayne video, the movements do look suspicious but that Cass video... I hope I will never have to face that. Thanks a lot for sharing
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The first Q from Lee I could see getting sidestepped by a really good player who would know that lee would probably turn after a certain point. None of the vayne movements APART from the little stutters/twitches are signs of a bot though. There are players out there who could definitely pull this off.
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