EPT[Patch 4.2] Xerath/Skarner General Discussion - Page 126
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
Twitches could be explained by trying to orb-walk while avoiding the rupture at the same time - so you end up clicking on the same spot | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
It's not a free script either so they need to have paid for it ;S | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
I mean that he's an example of a hero having too many things they do well, the newer heros are taking that route as well. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
No way a player dodges 3 skillshots with only 1 pixel error, then turns around right as it passes, there is no time delay at all. Humans are not that perfect, the reaction time between watching skillshot, to sidestepping, to stepping back to where she was before is like immaculate. That, and none of those attack commands are issued using an A-move, I dont think it possible to be that precise and fast without an a-move command. I mean, sure, somebody could do it I guess, but I'm hella skeptical. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35160 Posts
On February 25 2014 13:04 Shikyo wrote: its strange that people somehow find it fun to basically right click with the mouse and watch their script win them a teamfight without them having to do anything, after that do they just go like "darn I'm good at this game" or something? It's not a free script either so they need to have paid for it ;S This is the internet. Pretty much everything is "free." | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On February 25 2014 13:41 wei2coolman wrote: That Vayne was pretty plausible for world class adc's. I dont think so. I could be wrong, but compare it to this video of Piglet: Not near as many skill shots, all of them much easier to dodge than Lee Q, Cho W+Q, and Twitch Cask, and all three are on opposite sides of the Vayne during the fight. Being able to recognize all four and use a Q on them all just feels... too good to be true. Even Piglet, a world class AD, gets hit by the Nami Q and two different Lucian Q's during a much less choatic fight with much less direct pressure on himself. The margin of error, the speed, and the full screen awareness combined just feels too good to me. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On February 25 2014 12:55 zulu_nation8 wrote: perhaps but a good vayne with low ping can do all of those things. Cho rupture and Lee Sin Q both have wind up animations. She also got in range of Cho ult. vaynes def not a bot lol, yeah with low ping all of thats possible. she dodged a whole bunch of skill shots that all have cast/windup times. anyone on top of their game could prolly do that | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 25 2014 14:01 iCanada wrote: I dont think so. I could be wrong, but compare it to this video of Piglet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hff23-C9mLI Not near as many skill shots, all of them much easier to dodge than Lee Q, Cho W+Q, and Twitch Cask, and all three are on opposite sides of the Vayne during the fight. Being able to recognize all four and use a Q on them all just feels... too good to be true. Even Piglet, a world class AD, gets hit by the Nami Q and two different Lucian Q's during a much less choatic fight with much less direct pressure on himself. The margin of error, the speed, and the full screen awareness combined just feels too good to me. Uzi could do it. And she didn't get hit by Nami Q? The Lucian Q is harder to dodge since it's a non skill shot,. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On February 25 2014 14:04 wei2coolman wrote: Uzi could do it. And she didn't get hit by Nami Q? The Lucian Q is harder to dodge since it's a non skill shot,. Nah, Lucian Q easy to dodge. Anyway, I'm sure My Nirvana, the level 9 account, is as good if not better than Uzi. http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/25864478 | ||
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
Anyway, I hope Riot can stop this fast, wont be fun to play yoloq with micro bots around :o | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
Go to 0:06 in the video. You notice that Vayne moves to the left after tumbling/got hit by the silence. She then unnaturally twitches in place while still auto-attacking/animation canceling perfectly before the Cho Q indicator even shows up. The Vayne doesn't so much dodge the Cho Q - she never even moves into the Q area because something is stopping her. Not to mention that the twitching movement begins virtually the exact same moment Cho begins to lift his foot for the windup animation - Cho's foot hasn't even been raised by the time Vayne starts to twitch.. Go boot up a game and try to replicate the twitching movement while still autoattacking a specific target. I highly doubt you can do it - heck, I doubt you can replicate that twitch/shuffle slightly forward movement even without autoattacking. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On February 25 2014 13:41 iCanada wrote: I suspicious of that Vayne video too, I think it a bot. No way a player dodges 3 skillshots with only 1 pixel error, then turns around right as it passes, there is no time delay at all. Humans are not that perfect, the reaction time between watching skillshot, to sidestepping, to stepping back to where she was before is like immaculate. That, and none of those attack commands are issued using an A-move, I dont think it possible to be that precise and fast without an a-move command. I mean, sure, somebody could do it I guess, but I'm hella skeptical. She didn't dodge the Twitch cask either - she gets the 2 poison stacks and the slow is really marginal and mostly cosmetic. She just dodged Lee and Rupture. And if you can't dodge a rupture that you're not already standing in, you're doing something wrong. That said, the twitchiness is pretty suspect. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
For such a strong teamfighting play, with so much awareness, you'd think you'd save the flash and just collect the kill regardless... | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On February 25 2014 11:23 Eppa! wrote: Galio is probably her worst MU. Outshoves and out tanks her. Rather have Lulu or Orianna and have a reliable ulti. | ||
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Cheap0
United States540 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + EDIT: Hmm not showing up like the other ones for some reason. I guess just copy paste the link or whatever. EDIT2: Ok got it fixed. EDIT3: I suppose it could be a different bot. Either way, it's still a skillshot predicting/dodging bot. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
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