[Patch 4.2] Xerath/Skarner General Discussion - Page 105

On February 22 2014 13:16 xes wrote:

Riot plz

On February 22 2014 11:28 JazzVortical wrote:
I have a question for you guys:

Just had a game with an Akali. She fell behind early and said "I'm just going to go for kills to catch up". She started getting them, at the cost of her life. She'd always die when she got a kill. She ended up like 19/17 when our next highest death was something like 8. We lost the game, mainly because one of us facechecked at Baron and drew us all to a clean ace. But that really isn't the point.

Was Akali right to do that? I thought it was bad, because although she was getting kills, they were too and it was evening out anyway. Thoughts?

On February 22 2014 15:21 Zdrastochye wrote:
Support Trundle on the OGN, one step away from support ww.

I BELIEVE.

On February 22 2014 15:56 Cyro wrote:
Been playing with someone who is new to moba (he is lvl 8 now), at first just played my heart out and won a bunch of games but now normal 5v5 blind is throwing teams of only lvl 30 enemies and i'm struggling to hold 50% ratio against two good opponents (we usually play adc+support) while not being able to help this guy or focus on his items/builds etc or teaching him how to use skills, what do?

ARAM is pretty good and maybe hexakill (they limited it to lvl 10+) but trying to have fun. Even if he knew exactly what he was doing, he wouldn't have runes, masteries or flash - i can't honestly be surprised at his gameplay of dieing a bunch and not being able to zone much! :0

On February 22 2014 15:47 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trundle at face value has much more support potential

Passive heal, a slow/terrain block, an AD debuff and decent sustained damage if he can stick

On February 22 2014 15:56 Cyro wrote:
Been playing with someone who is new to moba (he is lvl 8 now), at first just played my heart out and won a bunch of games but now normal 5v5 blind is throwing teams of only lvl 30 enemies and i'm struggling to hold 50% ratio against two good opponents (we usually play adc+support) while not being able to help this guy or focus on his items/builds etc or teaching him how to use skills, what do?

ARAM is pretty good and maybe hexakill (they limited it to lvl 10+) but trying to have fun. Even if he knew exactly what he was doing, he wouldn't have runes, masteries or flash - i can't honestly be surprised at his gameplay of dieing a bunch and not being able to zone much! :0

On February 22 2014 16:28 Altar wrote:


Make a smurf to play with him. That's how my friend started playing with me when i started.

On February 22 2014 15:47 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trundle at face value has much more support potential

Passive heal, a slow/terrain block, an AD debuff and decent sustained damage if he can stick

On February 22 2014 18:10 KissBlade wrote:


I'm sorry but what????

AoE attack speed buff, percent dmg ranged, free vision at a large radius and a suppress. EVERYTHING sounds good if you just post what they do. Come on man, if I had a choice between two subpar supports, I'd take WW any day over Trundle.

But I apologize for necro-ing the idea from the dead. (I'd actually like to try it one game though if I ever get to play this game anytime soon =\ PvP randomly dc's me for like 3-5 seconds every 20 mins or so. I suspect it's Time Warner shenanigans but I can't ever prove it and I call them a million times already complaining about how my ISP drops randomly every 20-30 minutes but it's really hard to prove because who stays on the phone to monitor for that long straight??)

On February 22 2014 16:07 Ethelis wrote:


I think you definitely want to teach him the map first and basic objective oriented play then items. Just give him cookie cutter item builds/skill orders and let him think about and figure out his champ(s) the hard way. Otherwise he'd feel lost imo. Once he gets that down it'll be 100x easier to teach him skirmishing/champ specific stuff since he won't be asking all the time "where do i go?" "is this item good?" etc.

On February 22 2014 16:28 Altar wrote:


Make a smurf to play with him. That's how my friend started playing with me when i started.

On February 22 2014 17:51 killerdog wrote:

I have a level 12 friend and when i duo with him i just play champions i've never played before/go support (and actually play as support, leaving him all the cs/building at least 2-3 support items etc) while he plays adc, (he prefers playing ashe because then he doesn't have to use more then 1 ability :p)

Just treat it as a chilled out game, either play champions you've never played before, or just follow your friend around as support, trying to make plays together/demonstrate things to him. I think we have a 50/50 winrate together (he's 21/21 or something) and there were only a few that i actually really carried. (Like a game where i played shaco for the first time because it was shaco free week, and kind of forgot i was against a level 24 jungler and took every single buff in the game (except their first blue buff) for the first 24 minutes, still feel kind of guilty about doing that T.T)

If you carry going super tryhard then it becomes a lot less fun/more stressful for your friend who doesn't know what's going on other then he's causing his team to lose, and you also ruin his mmr so he can't really play alone without losing 100% of the time and getting flamed.

On February 22 2014 16:09 wei2coolman wrote:
Yes. And we've seen support morde and jungle heimer in OGN as well. You can't just mention support trundle without prefacing it how it's played out.