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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On January 15 2014 18:26 Gahlo wrote: Againg, anything with Conservation on it until the Wriggles upgrade gets patched in. Use your better judgement if you want the HP or AD based on gameflow. What wriggles upgrade? | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4122 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35095 Posts
Apparently Wriggles was always intended to have an upgrade in S4, but has been delayed for whatever reason. Sounds like it should be in within the next couple patches. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On January 15 2014 18:24 739 wrote: So which one on Lee? Madreds? Or Lizard or what? Cause I'm confused. And I'm bad in theorycrafting. Lizard if you snowballing or need more damage. Golem otherwise. Never buy madreds unless you're playing 5s and you guys want to sneak an early dragon. By early I mean like...4 minute dragon. Even if you do get madreds, don't bother upgrading to Wriggles - it's a shit item. Stats are trash, gold generation passive is not worth it especially compared to Conservation passive. If you want wards, get a sightstone. Tbh, on virtually all junglers, getting golem is never a bad move. When in doubt, Golem. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On January 15 2014 14:08 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: oh i lied elise is actually the highest with 21/42 in bracket/group point stands nidalee is a fucking stupid hero and should be deleted actually all heroes with two sets of abilities should be deleted B-but Fizz only has one set of abilities! | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4097 Posts
On January 15 2014 18:35 Ryuu314 wrote: Lizard if you snowballing or need more damage. Golem otherwise. Never buy madreds unless you're playing 5s and you guys want to sneak an early dragon. By early I mean like...4 minute dragon. Even if you do get madreds, don't bother upgrading to Wriggles - it's a shit item. Stats are trash, gold generation passive is not worth it especially compared to Conservation passive. If you want wards, get a sightstone. Tbh, on virtually all junglers, getting golem is never a bad move. When in doubt, Golem. Da Fuq? I was always buying Wrigggles on my Jungle Rengar and thought its the item supposed for non-mana champions...now I understand that it was a bad move :-))))))))) Is jungle Rengar even remotely viable now? with W nerfs? | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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Mafab
Germany458 Posts
I do see a disadvantage in the faster AA though. For one, you'll have to get used to the new speed for csing, and it's gonna be a bit harder to AA poke your lane opponent without aggroing creeps. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4097 Posts
On January 15 2014 19:03 Scip wrote: I personally don't think he was all that strong in the jungle before nerfs anyway, I don't expect him to do well at all after these nerfs though Absolutely true, Rengar was and maybe still is my main top and overall main champ and this was the only reason I was doing good job jungling with him, I just had very good understanding of how he works and his mechanics. Still, with a lot less knowledge/skills I was doing better with Vi which is my main jungle. I can imagine that people who does not play a lot of Rengar will mostly do horrible in jungle. Still I loved Rango and I was jungling with him from time to time, but after that nerf I am not sure if he is even remotely viable there. p.s Why do they had to butcher him so hard? I understand the Q, nice glitches there, not fair however so ok nerf it, but nerfing W as well on a champ who was not even so good/playable before season 4 changes and these changes will be fixed anyway, this was too much imo, he can pretty much become the new poppy or smth.. | ||
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SugiStyle
Finland42 Posts
Anyhow i feel that Kassadin nerfs from PBE should have been in this patch. Also i feel Dr.Mundo could have gotten Health per level or base health nerfs. Also darius could have gotten some 50% mana reduction from additional guillotines, since you never do penta with it since you go oom way too quickly. Overall verdict is that i like the patch and its much more balanced. Although there is few key champions that require nerf. | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4122 Posts
I´ve played two game with him and I´m doing nothing but stomping fools around. Why the fuck do you let someone have an ability that does 145 damage at level 1. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
I love Kha so much, in jungle he had a weaker period until like lvl8 actually, you needed a lot of damn pots to farm and stay full hp, but I bet with the new spirit stone you need so few of them, maybe none at all. So much saved gold and pain, I bet he's one of the best junglers atm undisputed | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4122 Posts
On January 15 2014 19:28 Scip wrote: I know, right I love Kha so much, in jungle he had a weaker period until like lvl8 actually, you needed a lot of damn pots to farm and stay full hp, but I bet with the new spirit stone you need so few of them, maybe none at all. So much saved gold and pain, I bet he's one of the best junglers atm undisputed I´ve played him one time in the jungle and I really didn´t need any pots after the starting ones. Granted, I was 5/1/0 in as many minutes, so that might have clouded my judgement a bit  Second game I had to top, and I don't really play top so I thought, lets try Kha. I just completely wrecked a top main. As a guy who plays top in 1 out of 25 games. | ||
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
On January 15 2014 19:23 M2 wrote: Absolutely true, Rengar was and maybe still is my main top and overall main champ and this was the only reason I was doing good job jungling with him, I just had very good understanding of how he works and his mechanics. Still, with a lot less knowledge/skills I was doing better with Vi which is my main jungle. I can imagine that people who does not play a lot of Rengar will mostly do horrible in jungle. Still I loved Rango and I was jungling with him from time to time, but after that nerf I am not sure if he is even remotely viable there. p.s Why do they had to butcher him so hard? I understand the Q, nice glitches there, not fair however so ok nerf it, but nerfing W as well on a champ who was not even so good/playable before season 4 changes and these changes will be fixed anyway, this was too much imo, he can pretty much become the new poppy or smth.. His playstyle in top lane in the latter half of Season 3 and Season 4 was one of the worst things in the game IMO. Wasn't at all healthy for the game. Not at all interesting for opponents or viewers. Hopefully the rework comes soon. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
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M2
Bulgaria4097 Posts
On January 15 2014 19:38 JazzVortical wrote: His playstyle in top lane in the latter half of Season 3 and Season 4 was one of the worst things in the game IMO. Wasn't at all healthy for the game. Not at all interesting for opponents or viewers. Hopefully the rework comes soon. Ok, for a rework I can somehow agree, coz if it doesn't fit - it doesn't fit, but to make a champ unplayable because playstyle is ugly...I don't agree with this so much  | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
On January 15 2014 20:45 IMoperator wrote: god i hate nightblue3, now literally everyone and their mom is jungling khazix. Problem is, they are garbage at it and they just end up with no gold and it's practically a 4v5 the whole game. Strongly disagree, jungling Kha is so easy any asshole can do it so now every game has a kha with 10 kills by 10 minutes. | ||
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