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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 15 2014 07:01 GMT
#121
On January 15 2014 15:38 MooMooMugi wrote:
The rise of Froggen once again


anivia and lissandra soon to be fotm op safe waveclear unkillable teamfight farming assassin
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
January 15 2014 07:11 GMT
#122
On January 15 2014 14:16 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 14:11 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 15 2014 14:10 Kupon3ss wrote:
On January 15 2014 14:08 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 15 2014 13:56 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 15 2014 12:06 GolemMadness wrote:
On January 15 2014 11:46 IamPryda wrote:
no nid or ziggs nerfs lol gtfo


Why would Nidalee be nerfed again?


nidalee is like the overpowered hero in league right now among competent players, she ws 100% pick/ban for the longest time in group stage ogn and im not 100% sure on the numbers but i believe she is still the highest pick/ban rate in ogn after semifinals.

edit: 18 out of 21 in bracket stages; main outlier is skt vs kt where 2 out of 3 games did not feature a nidalee, primarily due to ryu/kt not particularly favoring nidalee picks and skt choosing not to ban as a response

nidalee has 35 appearances in group stages


compare with:
11 for Mundo (12 in group stages)
19 for shyvana (25 in group stages)
3 for ziggs (all in ozone/shield series, 0 in group stage) lol yea lets nerf ziggs he's so overpowered fucking idiots
21 for kassadin (19 in group stages)



oh i lied elise is actually the highest with 21/42 in bracket/group

point stands nidalee is a fucking stupid hero and should be deleted

actually all heroes with two sets of abilities should be deleted


*champion is the riot-approved terminology

also please refer to the QQ thread when expressing such toxic opinions


kindly go kill yourself thanks

On January 15 2014 14:10 FinestHour wrote:
yo so is that mmr reset formula that people said about diving by 2 accurate representation for this week or nah


what no dividing by 2 would make no sense you'd need like 3k elo to be gold after reset when people who are like high gold - plat still get reset to gold judging from past seasons

maybe if you set 1200 as 0 it might be close but i dont think that's the exact formula also i think they hinted that the formula they're using this season is gonna be slightly different from what they used last season

not like you'll ever see your mmr at this rate anyways so its doesnt really matter



it was like original plus 1200 divided by 2? i just forgot the actual thing lol
but if they are changing and making new formula then w/e all good

was just curious if they actually posted the actual thing anywhere


I haven't seen any formula. Since they aren't displaying elo they probably won't say what is is anyway.

That being said the formula used to move your elo half way between what it is now and 1200. Or (current elo+1200)/2. Or (current elo)/2 + 600 or (current elo -1200)/2 + 1200.

All the same thing. And probably what they are still going to use.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
January 15 2014 07:16 GMT
#123
Wait, wait, wait. So what am I suppose to build on junglers now? Like LeeSin? I've always go for Elder Lizard thingy and now it doesn't grant hp regen? :\ still good or should I just change builds?

Also Annie buff and CDR on Timbers, WAT.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
January 15 2014 07:18 GMT
#124
On January 15 2014 16:16 739 wrote:
Wait, wait, wait. So what am I suppose to build on junglers now? Like LeeSin? I've always go for Elder Lizard thingy and now it doesn't grant hp regen? :\ still good or should I just change builds?

Also Annie buff and CDR on Timbers, WAT.

Passive lost early stun duration. ~30% nerf at level 1-5.

Also, finally announced the XDG roleswap.

Vulcun's god jungle out of the jungle, jeez. Best decision NA.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
January 15 2014 07:20 GMT
#125
On January 15 2014 16:16 739 wrote:
Wait, wait, wait. So what am I suppose to build on junglers now? Like LeeSin? I've always go for Elder Lizard thingy and now it doesn't grant hp regen? :\ still good or should I just change builds?

Also Annie buff and CDR on Timbers, WAT.

Literally anything that works with your champion that has Conservation, until the Wriggle upgrade is released.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 15 2014 07:28 GMT
#126
It's like Riot flipped a switch or something, all of a sudden I'm on a 13 game winning streak. o_o
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 15 2014 07:30 GMT
#127
On January 15 2014 13:56 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 12:06 GolemMadness wrote:
On January 15 2014 11:46 IamPryda wrote:
no nid or ziggs nerfs lol gtfo


Why would Nidalee be nerfed again?


nidalee is like the overpowered hero in league right now among competent players, she ws 100% pick/ban for the longest time in group stage ogn and im not 100% sure on the numbers but i believe she is still the highest pick/ban rate in ogn after semifinals.

edit: 18 out of 21 in bracket stages; main outlier is skt vs kt where 2 out of 3 games did not feature a nidalee, primarily due to ryu/kt not particularly favoring nidalee picks and skt choosing not to ban as a response

nidalee has 35 appearances in group stages


compare with:
11 for Mundo (12 in group stages)
19 for shyvana (25 in group stages)
18 for gragas (23 in group stages)
3 for ziggs (all in ozone/shield series, 0 in group stage) lol yea lets nerf ziggs he's so overpowered fucking idiots
21 for kassadin (19 in group stages)



Where can I see these stats?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-15 07:39:11
January 15 2014 07:38 GMT
#128
On January 15 2014 16:30 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 13:56 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 15 2014 12:06 GolemMadness wrote:
On January 15 2014 11:46 IamPryda wrote:
no nid or ziggs nerfs lol gtfo


Why would Nidalee be nerfed again?


nidalee is like the overpowered hero in league right now among competent players, she ws 100% pick/ban for the longest time in group stage ogn and im not 100% sure on the numbers but i believe she is still the highest pick/ban rate in ogn after semifinals.

edit: 18 out of 21 in bracket stages; main outlier is skt vs kt where 2 out of 3 games did not feature a nidalee, primarily due to ryu/kt not particularly favoring nidalee picks and skt choosing not to ban as a response

nidalee has 35 appearances in group stages


compare with:
11 for Mundo (12 in group stages)
19 for shyvana (25 in group stages)
18 for gragas (23 in group stages)
3 for ziggs (all in ozone/shield series, 0 in group stage) lol yea lets nerf ziggs he's so overpowered fucking idiots
21 for kassadin (19 in group stages)




Where can I see these stats?

http://lol.gamepedia.com/PANDORA.TV_Champions_Winter_2013-2014/Picks_and_Bans
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
January 15 2014 07:56 GMT
#129
This video pretty much sums it all :D

WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
January 15 2014 07:59 GMT
#130
On January 15 2014 16:56 739 wrote:
This video pretty much sums it all :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhCrt7vz7cI

"Watch me be wrong about half the champion changes I talk about!"
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
January 15 2014 08:14 GMT
#131
mmm dem riven early game nerfs
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
January 15 2014 08:28 GMT
#132
god im so glad they're getting rid of clamping. I've won 5 games in a row and went from ~30 lp to ~60 lp in plat 1...
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
January 15 2014 08:33 GMT
#133
On January 15 2014 17:28 IMoperator wrote:
god im so glad they're getting rid of clamping. I've won 5 games in a row and went from ~30 lp to ~60 lp in plat 1...

I dunno about that, that seems pretty good. I was getting gaining roughly 3-5, and losing pretty much the same the whole way up until the 90+ range.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
January 15 2014 08:55 GMT
#134
On January 15 2014 16:16 739 wrote:
Wait, wait, wait. So what am I suppose to build on junglers now? Like LeeSin? I've always go for Elder Lizard thingy and now it doesn't grant hp regen? :\ still good or should I just change builds?

Also Annie buff and CDR on Timbers, WAT.

The sustain from Lizard elder is probably a little bit better if you are farming enough I think
This is awesome for Kha'Zix, I think you won't need to buy mana pots on him anymore. And Skarner can go Lizard Elder. Awww yeah
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-15 09:00:13
January 15 2014 08:57 GMT
#135
On January 15 2014 16:01 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 15:38 MooMooMugi wrote:
The rise of Froggen once again


anivia and lissandra soon to be fotm op safe waveclear unkillable teamfight farming assassin


I heard that WoW balance guy has a fetish for Frost Mages? Coincidence?
On January 15 2014 17:55 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 16:16 739 wrote:
Wait, wait, wait. So what am I suppose to build on junglers now? Like LeeSin? I've always go for Elder Lizard thingy and now it doesn't grant hp regen? :\ still good or should I just change builds?

Also Annie buff and CDR on Timbers, WAT.

The sustain from Lizard elder is probably a little bit better if you are farming enough I think
This is awesome for Kha'Zix, I think you won't need to buy mana pots on him anymore. And Skarner can go Lizard Elder. Awww yeah


which jungle Item would you get on Elise Scip? I was trying Spectral Wraith a lot prepatch and it basically left her always at full hp/mana in the jungle and you could freely give the laner the buff but now every item has that sustain passive. So back to golem? Not sure if 2ap/big monster is worth but GOlem lost its HP.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
January 15 2014 09:08 GMT
#136
the patch deleted all my voices -.-
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
January 15 2014 09:17 GMT
#137
I will probably still be going Spectral Wraith on Elise for ze faster farms but maybe Ancient Golem might be better sometimes for them towerdives. Not sure yet.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 15 2014 09:22 GMT
#138
I think ancient golem is definitely better on Elise. It looks like some pros have tried wraith as well, but it's definitely not very common.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
January 15 2014 09:24 GMT
#139
So which one on Lee? Madreds? Or Lizard or what? Cause I'm confused. And I'm bad in theorycrafting.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
January 15 2014 09:26 GMT
#140
On January 15 2014 18:24 739 wrote:
So which one on Lee? Madreds? Or Lizard or what? Cause I'm confused. And I'm bad in theorycrafting.

Againg, anything with Conservation on it until the Wriggles upgrade gets patched in. Use your better judgement if you want the HP or AD based on gameflow.
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