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Yezzus
United States2318 Posts
On February 09 2014 08:28 Fusilero wrote: Vlad vs mundo is a curb stomp for mundo, it's pretty much a kill 100% if mundo can land a cleaver and vlad can't really bully mundo as he'll just play conservative with cleavers until he can just kill vlad. What about besides Mundo | ||
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Yezzus
United States2318 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
Vlad just doesn't win against anyone right now. Sorry but you don't pick him to win lanes. | ||
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Yezzus
United States2318 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On February 09 2014 09:21 Yezzus wrote: Sure he loses to some....but he can go even alot and outscaled alot of tops later on. Yeah I think he can go sort of even. Even if he doesn't, his E is so good at waveclear that he will eventually crawl back provided his team isn't demolished without him. But I don't think there are lanes which he you pick him into and expect a breeze. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
Plus there's basically nothing but bad matchups top lane nowadays. No mo' shen and shit like Malphite to possibly bully. And even then Malph is a bad matchup, and Shen can come back in lane strongly if he gets pressure from the jangles. | ||
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benefluence
United States158 Posts
On February 09 2014 10:02 Lord Tolkien wrote: Vlad was nerfed with the conjunction of 1) Spectral Cowl and 2) removal of Spectral Wraith and Spell Vamp, leaving only the shitty WotA as an upgrade path for hextech. Plus there's basically nothing but bad matchups top lane nowadays. No mo' shen and shit like Malphite to possibly bully. And even then Malph is a bad matchup, and Shen can come back in lane strongly if he gets pressure from the jangles. Doesn't current wota have basically the exact same stats as the old spectral wraith? (50 AP, 20 % vamp, 10% CDR for 2000 gold). | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On February 09 2014 10:18 benefluence wrote: Doesn't current wota have basically the exact same stats as the old spectral wraith? (50 AP, 20 % vamp, 10% CDR for 2000 gold). It has the exact same stats +10 mana regen at the same price. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Has anybody tried going faerie charm + 5 health pot + 3 mana pot with the biscuit mastery on mid laners? I feel like it might be stronger than current mid lane openings on people like Orianna/Gragas/Kassadin, although it would be more of an investment. Wondering if anybody has seen this. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On February 09 2014 10:38 Ketara wrote: It has the exact same stats +10 mana regen at the same price. +10 AP | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
its just drings are super cost efficient anyway going pots opening feels a bit like a crutch | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On February 09 2014 10:41 Ketara wrote: In other news, Has anybody tried going faerie charm + 5 health pot + 3 mana pot with the biscuit mastery on mid laners? I feel like it might be stronger than current mid lane openings on people like Orianna/Gragas/Kassadin, although it would be more of an investment. Wondering if anybody has seen this. I recall bigfatlpjiji experimented with the biscuit mastery and faerie charm start in the early days of season 4/pre-season 4/whenever that patch came out. I haven't seen him do it since, but I haven't tuned into his stream in a while. I can tell you that he tried it though, and then switched to the normal item builds after they were found. I think Koreans aren't doing it either. My reasoning being that if there was something there, we'd already see it in matches, and then it'd migrate over to NA. In the end, if you want mana, there's always flask openings for these champions.(Kassadin flask+3pot opening for example) | ||
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silencefc
United States875 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Charm+8 pot with biscuit mastery is 3 mp5, 925 health 380 mana. I wonder if that extra regen in the initial lane is worth the mastery point and a bigger early potion investment though. Maybe not. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On February 09 2014 09:13 Sufficiency wrote: Vlad just doesn't win against anyone right now. Sorry but you don't pick him to win lanes. vlad still smashes jax | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
Vlad smashes Jax and Shen, sure. But they are so rarely played it doesn't really matter. It's like saying Vlad smashes on Poppy. | ||
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