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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On January 16 2014 18:27 Scip wrote: Anyone tried out Hecarim/Maokai/Skarner with the new Spirit Stone? Better or worse than before the changes? Viable in your opinions? While I haven't tried them, opinions on Skarner are pointless till the rework. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On January 16 2014 19:10 Scip wrote: I can't say I am that happy with Skarner being reworked. I don't think his design is bad at all or anything, I think he might have aquired a niche with just a tiny number buff. Oh well. I think they should just revert the ult nerf and tell people to stop sucking. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/27023-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-1-15-2014-xeraths Looks like they mainstreamed Xerath too. Hello generic waveclear spells, generic stun and worse ultimate (seriously, it's like they didn't learn anything from Malz ult). Kassadin nerfs are pretty harsh (150 damage with base rank 5 Q+E), I think he will fall out of favour. I do like the Kha changes, seem a little more reasonable. Cool Skarner changes, seems like you'll actually be able to chase people who jump away. Derp just saw it posted 3 pages earlier :\ | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
woow, like the kog maw change. AP kog anyone? | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On January 16 2014 19:41 Scip wrote: Holy cow 55 shield strength per level. Doesn't give attack speed anymore though, hmmm... Doesn't really look like a champion I'd want to play, his farming speed will definitely go up significantly, if you didn't put levels into E, but with the slow being only 30% at lvl1 your ganks might suffer too much... Then again with the increased mspeed and strenght on your shield maybe you could do weird things like still not level up your E. Interesting overall definitely. Wait, range on Kog'ma wQ changed to 925? I love it, so elegant Kog Q now a skillshot tho. So can be blocked by creeps I assume. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
Before I'd go to askmrrobot's stupid dummy dps calculator, enter the items and it'd be like "~ this level is when he'd get the gold," but they scrapped it. | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
I know it's pbe but Dayum xerath's W seems crazy. 1 second cooldown for a 40-60% slow in the center and 10% slow in the area. also 1100 range. even if it didn't do damage that would be an awesome spell haha. I'm sure it will get tweaked but I'd love to try that out just for the opness. | ||
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
On January 16 2014 19:35 Doctorbeat wrote: New PBE stuff, don't know if it's been posted yet: http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/27023-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-1-15-2014-xeraths Looks like they mainstreamed Xerath too. Hello generic waveclear spells, generic stun and worse ultimate (seriously, it's like they didn't learn anything from Malz ult). Kassadin nerfs are pretty harsh (150 damage with base rank 5 Q+E), I think he will fall out of favour. I do like the Kha changes, seem a little more reasonable. Cool Skarner changes, seems like you'll actually be able to chase people who jump away. Derp just saw it posted 3 pages earlier :\ The whole reasoning behind reworking Xerath was bogus anyway. Oh he's not super popular? Wasn't getting played enough? Hmmmm but his numbers were fine? Sees the odd competitive game? Kit only ever so slightly problematic? Christ there are much bigger problems. I'm a bit salty about it. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On January 16 2014 20:38 JonGalt wrote: thanks shiznick! I know it's pbe but Dayum xerath's W seems crazy. 1 second cooldown for a 40-60% slow in the center and 10% slow in the area. also 1100 range. even if it didn't do damage that would be an awesome spell haha. I'm sure it will get tweaked but I'd love to try that out just for the opness. The video of the new kit shows W at a 13s cd on rank 2. Be wary of cooldowns on Reign of Gaming, they like to go "first!" from the air files instead of doublechecking them in game. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
 Wiki says 14-10s cd.The ult is still strong against a single target (1260 + 1.05 AP, needs something like 500 AP to be weaker than currently ?) however it's heavily nerfed against multiple enemies. 130 mana with a low cd for Q that is still is main source of manage is going to hurt his clear/sieging pretty hard. And because he loses his %MPen it's going to be a big nerf no matter how you look at it. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
On January 16 2014 20:55 JazzVortical wrote: The whole reasoning behind reworking Xerath was bogus anyway. Oh he's not super popular? Wasn't getting played enough? Hmmmm but his numbers were fine? Sees the odd competitive game? Kit only ever so slightly problematic? Christ there are much bigger problems. I'm a bit salty about it. Except that wasn't the reasoning. They felt xerath was fun to play, but not so fun to play against. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On January 16 2014 21:37 Sufficiency wrote: The Xerath rework is kjnd of like the Sejuani rework. He will become OP then nerfed to a state worse than pre-rework. Sejuani is better than prerework outside of her ult. | ||
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
On January 16 2014 21:38 Osmoses wrote: Except that wasn't the reasoning. They felt xerath was fun to play, but not so fun to play against. Where are you getting that from? Curios. From the Xerath thread on LoL GD: http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3424065 Let's start with a few facts: Xerath has a 50% win rate across all elos. Xerath only has a 51% win rate in very high elo matches. Xerath's total burst has a 1134 dmg + 3.4 AP Ratio + 40% spell pen - the highest baseline burst in the game. Xerath has a very cool theme and concept Despite this: Xerath is the 2nd least played Mage across all regions. The data indicates Xerath is actually balanced in terms of total impact on the game. His best case burst is massive. Yet he's not played a lot. Why do you feel this is? What do you feel would make Xerath feel better? Xerath's numbers indicate that his raw power is good, but the play rates and this feedback indicate that the experience, self-identification and social view of Xerath is poor. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
On January 16 2014 21:52 JazzVortical wrote: Where are you getting that from? Curios. From the Xerath thread on LoL GD: http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3424065 From here: http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/01/115-pbe-update.html#more | ||
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ArchAngelSC
England706 Posts
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