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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On January 16 2014 22:09 ArchAngelSC wrote: Of course I finally have a day off work with nothing to do but play League all day. Servers are fine. Everything's great. Taking servers offline for maintenance. Ggnore Well it's in a few hours so you have time. | ||
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
On January 16 2014 21:59 Osmoses wrote: From here: http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/01/115-pbe-update.html#more Fair enough, I hadn't actually seen that. Still seems like xelnath started it because he was unpopular though, at least originally. And it is still crap reasoning, considering he can still kill people from outside vision range in his reworked state, which is supposed to be unfun. | ||
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OhTwoMise
United States164 Posts
On January 16 2014 11:48 SagaZ wrote: Lulu is actually very good against Tresh imo, she also does well vs leona imo. She has alot of answers in all in fights those 2 want to force. and she has good poke. I find her at her weakest against supports that force engages from a middle range distance, like zyra, sona or annie Lulu is criminally underrated in all-in scenarios. I think this is largely because she's quite bad at setting up those kinds of scenarios, but it's really not uncommon to come out of an all-in against Leona or Thresh even or up if your ADs have relative parity as well. The only lanes I've ever really had problems in with Lulu are those where you're at a severe poke disadvantage 2v2 (generally involves opposing Caitlyn). I always felt Lulu was kind of a support player's support. Everyone I know who actually enjoys playing support has Lulu at the top of their fun list. She was excellent at all of the intangibles that supports in S2/S3 wanted--stable in almost every lane, very good at midgame vision control. She's also got insane counter-initiation and a very versatile toolbox in general. But she doesn't really do any of the things that solo queue heroes are looking for, so you see her there much more rarely than you should relative to her power level. She's pretty bad at creating picks and can't really snowball a lane without severe enemy misplay. She also has a kind of bizarre learning curve--she isn't particularly hard to play mechanically, but because her skills are all multifunctional, her decision tree is much larger than your average champion. Nami shares a lot of these characteristics, but can actually set up a lot of kills if the opposing team eats bubbles. I still feel she's best in a fast-push-with-Caitlyn style lineup, though. Tidal Wave is an obscene counter-initiation as long as you don't get horribly flanked. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
e. Fuckin christ, Morello is thinking about lowering the missle speed of Diana Q. Ghostcrawler pls, stahp him. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On January 16 2014 22:37 Gahlo wrote: I just wish they'd fix the damn Talisman line bug with Lulu. e. Fuckin christ, Morello is thinking about lowering the missle speed of Diana Q. Ghostcrawler pls, stahp him. Does she get anything in return? I see 0 reason why they'd suddenly nerf Diana although nonone plays her | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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ArchAngelSC
England706 Posts
On January 16 2014 23:00 AsnSensation wrote: Does she get anything in return? I see 0 reason why they'd suddenly nerf Diana although nonone plays her I play her  | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On January 16 2014 22:37 Gahlo wrote: I just wish they'd fix the damn Talisman line bug with Lulu. e. Fuckin christ, Morello is thinking about lowering the missle speed of Diana Q. Ghostcrawler pls, stahp him. What's that bug? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On January 16 2014 23:00 AsnSensation wrote: Does she get anything in return? I see 0 reason why they'd suddenly nerf Diana although nonone plays her There was a Diana thread and the person was like "Yo dummies, look at all des nerfs. Buff Q base damage pls." and Morello said some dumb shit like having to slow Q down because it's more of a "skill shot" than "skillshot." Whatever the fuck that meant. He then went on to say that she needs to get her identity straight as an assassin or an AP bruiser and was leaning towards bruiser because that's what she was initially designed as. Didn't mention that second part because I agreed with it.  If a pix bolt gets the last hit, Lulu isn't given credit for the cs and is given spectator gold. I was confused as fuck for a while why I got 5g for a caster minion. | ||
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Kenpark
Germany2350 Posts
On January 16 2014 23:00 AsnSensation wrote: Does she get anything in return? I see 0 reason why they'd suddenly nerf Diana although nonone plays her "I tend to agree with the statement "Q is a skillshot, and therefore you can lean on that for a lot of the healthy gameplay interactions in lane." To me, though, it needs to be slowed down a fair amount to actually function that way - right now, it's a "skill shot," not a skillshot  Diana has a few other issues overall, but if you make Q less reliable, you can make her decent again. I'd also like to stop having her be an assassin OR stop having her have durability. These together is silly, and she should choose one (I tend to favor durability for thematic reasons alone)." I dont get this skill shot skillshot thing. Its not like its ultra easy to land compared to other skills. Diana is kinda weird for me. I like the kit, but it all screams I want to be melee range and autoattack stuff. But then she is so easy to gank. I tried her in jungle and she works great there if there wasnt her ultra weak ganking pre 6. | ||
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snow2.0
Germany2073 Posts
Are there limitations to that ability and what is the timing to do it? | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21248 Posts
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GettingIt
1656 Posts
On January 16 2014 23:27 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: he has 50% damage reduction in stealth if he gets the evolution Because being in stealth mode isn't defense enough. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On January 16 2014 23:55 GettingIt wrote: Because being in stealth mode isn't defense enough. Dur -Jinx | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On January 16 2014 19:10 Scip wrote: I can't say I am that happy with Skarner being reworked. I don't think his design is bad at all or anything, I think he might have aquired a niche with just a tiny number buff. Oh well. On January 16 2014 19:53 Scip wrote: I am rather excited with the hige Mspeed increase on skarner W though, maybe with stuff like your support rushing shurelyas or something you could make mad plays with it I've said for awhile that Skarner was pretty badly designed, which I think it true regardless of how viable he could be with a buff. In his current state all of his skills, aside from his ultimate, are incredibly binary. That is to say they have very bad worst case scenarios and very good best case scenarios. His W has sick attack/movement speed.... but if it gets poked down or you're in a team fight it turns into a pretty meh shield. Your Q is a sick permaslow... but you need to get stay melee for ~2 seconds and can only reliably get the slow by setting it up with R. Sometimes if you get the slow they can escape anyways using a blink, but if they can't they're just boned. Moreover his passive relies on AAs in melee, so either you get to stick on a target and get a ton CDR or they escape and then you're left with long-arse cooldowns. There isn't a lot of room in the middle which is why Riot feared buffing him. I've played some of the rework skarner on the PBE when it showed up last time and I think gameplay-wise it's a vast improvement, I was having more fun and with his power more evenly distributed across his skills he should be easier to balance. Whether or not he's more competitive I'll leave to better players | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
On January 16 2014 22:35 JazzVortical wrote: Fair enough, I hadn't actually seen that. Still seems like xelnath started it because he was unpopular though, at least originally. And it is still crap reasoning, considering he can still kill people from outside vision range in his reworked state, which is supposed to be unfun. Judging by the images of the rework it seems his ulti is now a projectile that shoots from xerath to the target, so maybe it's somewhat easier to dodge? I dunno, but if their reason to fix him is because he is unfun to land against then they better have done something :p edit: it seems there is a projectile, and it has a fixed travel time of 0.5 seconds. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
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IMoperator
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