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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 07:30:37
December 24 2013 07:11 GMT
#1881
I wonder how Chaox declined so much playing a role that's mostly unaffected by game wide meta changes.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 07:29:25
December 24 2013 07:29 GMT
#1882
On December 24 2013 16:11 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I wonder how Chaox decayed so much playing a role that's mostly unaffected by game wide meta changes.

Champion pool. Can't play MF or Corki 24/7.

Also partying. His poor scrim/work ethic got him kicked off TSM.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 24 2013 07:41 GMT
#1883
On December 24 2013 16:11 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I wonder how Chaox declined so much playing a role that's mostly unaffected by game wide meta changes.

Well his main ADC's are all pretty shit in this meta, so that's why. Pretty much anything not Sivir/Lucian/Jinx/Draven, is pretty useless at this point.
liftlift > tsm
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 24 2013 07:52 GMT
#1884
On December 24 2013 16:41 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 16:11 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I wonder how Chaox declined so much playing a role that's mostly unaffected by game wide meta changes.

Well his main ADC's are all pretty shit in this meta, so that's why. Pretty much anything not Sivir/Lucian/Jinx/Draven, is pretty useless at this point.

It doesn't take that long to pick up an ADC, seriously this excuse just doesn't work for me that well at all. Jinx has been out for like 2 and half months in the first place, and people were playing her after like what, a week?.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 24 2013 07:55 GMT
#1885
i wanna say maybe mechanics are hard to keep up if you play anything less than a shitload, and also age may have something to do with it.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 07:59:14
December 24 2013 07:58 GMT
#1886
isnt chaox like 23? I cant see age playing that big of a role
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 24 2013 08:01 GMT
#1887
they say once you hit your 20s your mechanics start to decline, but then again boxer was still beating people while on ACE, but boxer is boxer.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
December 24 2013 08:03 GMT
#1888
Chaox is just in permaslump. He used to be good, now he's.. well currently he's getting rocked by a random tristana as Lucian.

Not really sure what else is worth mentioning. I am sure it's possible he could get back to form but at the moment he's fallen abit.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
December 24 2013 08:08 GMT
#1889
Wait, is he streaming right now? I cant find his stream on twitch
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 08:10:32
December 24 2013 08:09 GMT
#1890
On December 24 2013 17:01 zulu_nation8 wrote:
they say once you hit your 20s your mechanics start to decline, but then again boxer was still beating people while on ACE, but boxer is boxer.

LoL doesn't have the same massive APM requirements even on ADC to remain competitive as compared to traditional RTS so I doubt that's the issue. I highly doubt age is a factor when we're talking about a timespan of two maybe three years. More justhim slumping.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
December 24 2013 08:11 GMT
#1891
On December 24 2013 17:08 Scip wrote:
Wait, is he streaming right now? I cant find his stream on twitch

He's the adc on Saints stream right now. I just happened to notice it was him and you guys just happened to be talking about him. He got roughed up early game then started to do work I think? I got distracted by giant robot pictures so I missed the ending.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
December 24 2013 08:15 GMT
#1892
On December 24 2013 17:01 zulu_nation8 wrote:
they say once you hit your 20s your mechanics start to decline, but then again boxer was still beating people while on ACE, but boxer is boxer.

Maybe true for BW but I'm pretty sure you could still play competitive LoL at 40yo lol
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 24 2013 08:20 GMT
#1893
What's with karma's mana costs? Dude spams every spell on cooldown and stays at full mana with a doran's ring
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 08:38:05
December 24 2013 08:35 GMT
#1894
On December 24 2013 16:52 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 16:41 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 24 2013 16:11 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I wonder how Chaox declined so much playing a role that's mostly unaffected by game wide meta changes.

Well his main ADC's are all pretty shit in this meta, so that's why. Pretty much anything not Sivir/Lucian/Jinx/Draven, is pretty useless at this point.

It doesn't take that long to pick up an ADC, seriously this excuse just doesn't work for me that well at all. Jinx has been out for like 2 and half months in the first place, and people were playing her after like what, a week?.

The reason is the offensive ADC's that are fotm don't fit his play style. Also, against those lanes passive laners just get pooped on, even if you try to farm safely, you still get pooped on. Back when Chaox was decent/good, he was able to farm it out against the best because he just played the lane passively, and the fotm ADC's in lane didn't allow him to get pooped on by aggressive play.
On December 24 2013 17:15 Lylat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 17:01 zulu_nation8 wrote:
they say once you hit your 20s your mechanics start to decline, but then again boxer was still beating people while on ACE, but boxer is boxer.

Maybe true for BW but I'm pretty sure you could still play competitive LoL at 40yo lol

Reaction times still decay with age, which is hugely important in pro LoL.
liftlift > tsm
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
December 24 2013 08:38 GMT
#1895
I will be kind enough to give you guys the answer to the Chaox enigma.

+ Show Spoiler +
Chaox was cop before cop.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 24 2013 08:39 GMT
#1896
On December 24 2013 17:38 cascades wrote:
I will be kind enough to give you guys the answer to the Chaox enigma.

+ Show Spoiler +
Chaox was cop before cop.

But, Cop plays Draven.
liftlift > tsm
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
December 24 2013 08:44 GMT
#1897
On December 24 2013 17:01 zulu_nation8 wrote:
they say once you hit your 20s your mechanics start to decline, but then again boxer was still beating people while on ACE, but boxer is boxer.


The only reason that might be is overwork, because of the ridiculous hours gamers put in during their teenage years. Biologically your reaction times and fine motor skills improve well into your 20s, stagnate for awhile, and then start to deteriorate.

It could also be that even in such a strong gaming environment as Korea, that 20+ year olds start to get distracted by/involved in other life activities, which takes away from their gaming ability(overwork/burnout could play into this part as well, putting in 12+ hour days as a standard for 3+ years is insane and probably incredibly difficult to maintain, it's psychologically expected that at some point performance will fall off because a person fails to maintain such rigorous scheduling, or even if they maintain the schedule they are using the time less effectively).
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 24 2013 08:45 GMT
#1898
On December 24 2013 17:09 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 17:01 zulu_nation8 wrote:
they say once you hit your 20s your mechanics start to decline, but then again boxer was still beating people while on ACE, but boxer is boxer.

LoL doesn't have the same massive APM requirements even on ADC to remain competitive as compared to traditional RTS so I doubt that's the issue. I highly doubt age is a factor when we're talking about a timespan of two maybe three years. More justhim slumping.

Indeed. Mechanics aren't an issue at all in LoL. LoL doesn't even require amazing mouse speed. That should not be a factor.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 24 2013 09:11 GMT
#1899
On December 24 2013 17:44 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 17:01 zulu_nation8 wrote:
they say once you hit your 20s your mechanics start to decline, but then again boxer was still beating people while on ACE, but boxer is boxer.


The only reason that might be is overwork, because of the ridiculous hours gamers put in during their teenage years. Biologically your reaction times and fine motor skills improve well into your 20s, stagnate for awhile, and then start to deteriorate.

It could also be that even in such a strong gaming environment as Korea, that 20+ year olds start to get distracted by/involved in other life activities, which takes away from their gaming ability(overwork/burnout could play into this part as well, putting in 12+ hour days as a standard for 3+ years is insane and probably incredibly difficult to maintain, it's psychologically expected that at some point performance will fall off because a person fails to maintain such rigorous scheduling, or even if they maintain the schedule they are using the time less effectively).

There might be a nocebo effect going on there.
+ Show Spoiler [for more info on nocebos] +
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
December 24 2013 09:11 GMT
#1900
so fizz gets nerf on his W from 0.35 to 0.15 ap rotio and everybody stopped playing him, i dont get it
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