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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 24 2013 01:34 GMT
#1861
BG is the sign of a sore loser no matter how bad the circumstances are, I would just avoid using it.
Carrilord has arrived.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 01:49:33
December 24 2013 01:47 GMT
#1862

Chaox can't get the visa to EU, looks like he's not on ocelote's team (Now you can pick MrRallez ocelote)
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/99307#history/1235186939 (Check the kassadin match)
Looks like the bot is atm samux/dioud.
Glorious SEA doto
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 24 2013 01:50 GMT
#1863
Hmm, why don't the Euros want Chaox? Should America be worried?
Freeeeeeedom
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 24 2013 02:04 GMT
#1864
On December 24 2013 10:50 cLutZ wrote:
Hmm, why don't the Euros want Chaox? Should America be worried?

He just can't get a visa for an extended stay becaue Europe hates esports.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
December 24 2013 02:08 GMT
#1865
On December 24 2013 11:04 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 10:50 cLutZ wrote:
Hmm, why don't the Euros want Chaox? Should America be worried?

He just can't get a visa for an extended stay becaue Europe hates esports.

It is just good guy government helping ocelote pick a good ad unlike chaox.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 24 2013 02:08 GMT
#1866
OR, alternative explanation, they are afraid he will take all the womenz with his sick American party style.
Freeeeeeedom
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 24 2013 02:12 GMT
#1867
or they dont want unskilled workers immigrating...
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 24 2013 02:23 GMT
#1868
On December 24 2013 11:12 LaNague wrote:
or they dont want unskilled workers immigrating...

I pop culture has taught me anything, getting drunk is a skill.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 24 2013 02:24 GMT
#1869
On December 24 2013 10:50 cLutZ wrote:
Hmm, why don't the Euros want Chaox? Should America be worried?

Because they're allergic to Freedom, Eagles, and apple pie.
liftlift > tsm
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 02:44:29
December 24 2013 02:40 GMT
#1870
On December 24 2013 03:27 Kupon3ss wrote:
A popular NA streamer/hightierpubber once noted that gold on KR is about the same as diamond in NA. Bronze KR in SC2 was about the same level as gold in the West as well. There's no reason to believe that a similar gap doesn't exist here.


Can I have source for this please? Why not just say who this was? I don't understand the need to call them a "popular NA streamer/hightier pubber" rather than just declare the source directly. I vaguely recall something similar to this, but I don't remember who said it/where this came from.

On December 24 2013 09:00 Rooster Cogburn wrote:
So I have not posted in a while, or not really at all but I just have to ask your opinion on this guy I had in my game. Hopefully this is the right thread for this....

Well we had a game where our mid dc'ed at the beginning and never came back. The game was over quickly and it wasn't even close. No one had a good time since it was a waste of 20 minutes. We ask them to push down mid and they didn't do anything and waited out the 20 minutes for us to surrender. At the end of the game, I said, "bg, dc". that is when it all started.

This guy went on and on, like literally 20 lines of hate coming my way for saying bg (I didn't copy pasta it sorry guise). Like I should kill myself, he did my mom, I should bleep myself, and people like me are ruining the game blah blah blah. I never responded. My friends thought it was hilarious and added him as a friend when I left my comp. Then he kept messaging me calling me more offensive names and once again, I should kill myself without a single response from me.

Is saying bg at the end of the game that bad of a deal if it wasn't a good game? Wasn't there something on reddit about that?

Also, been playing a little bit since season 4, and still have no idea what is the best trinket for who and when to get which trinket in what situation. Like is the red one generally better for jungling and yellow for laning?


BG is just a rude thing to say. He was not warranted in his reaction, but you probably should not have said anything anyways. Pretty much the general rule of any game is the following: "if you don't have something nice to say, it's best not to say anything at all"

As for trinkets. Everyone starts yellow trinket for the most part. If you are jungle or support, usually they buy yellow, but there are times certain team comps might want red. During mid-game/ roaming, they will sell yellow and buy red trinket(sweeping). Not that many uses of blue trinket in pro play yet. It seems the other two are pretty strong. Mostly, if you see the enemy team has good map control, sell yellow, get red, and sweep your own jungle for wards(In solo queue, this is regardless of your role since it's pretty vital to have map control. Be careful though since there is a cooldown when you sell->buy different kinds of trinkets). Remember also that you can still buy 1 pink ward!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 24 2013 02:45 GMT
#1871
On December 24 2013 11:40 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 03:27 Kupon3ss wrote:
A popular NA streamer/hightierpubber once noted that gold on KR is about the same as diamond in NA. Bronze KR in SC2 was about the same level as gold in the West as well. There's no reason to believe that a similar gap doesn't exist here.


Can I have source for this please? Why not just say who this was? I don't understand the need to call them a "popular NA streamer/hightier pubber" rather than just declare the source directly. I vaguely recall something similar to this, but I don't remember who said it/where this came from.

Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 09:00 Rooster Cogburn wrote:
So I have not posted in a while, or not really at all but I just have to ask your opinion on this guy I had in my game. Hopefully this is the right thread for this....

Well we had a game where our mid dc'ed at the beginning and never came back. The game was over quickly and it wasn't even close. No one had a good time since it was a waste of 20 minutes. We ask them to push down mid and they didn't do anything and waited out the 20 minutes for us to surrender. At the end of the game, I said, "bg, dc". that is when it all started.

This guy went on and on, like literally 20 lines of hate coming my way for saying bg (I didn't copy pasta it sorry guise). Like I should kill myself, he did my mom, I should bleep myself, and people like me are ruining the game blah blah blah. I never responded. My friends thought it was hilarious and added him as a friend when I left my comp. Then he kept messaging me calling me more offensive names and once again, I should kill myself without a single response from me.

Is saying bg at the end of the game that bad of a deal if it wasn't a good game? Wasn't there something on reddit about that?

Also, been playing a little bit since season 4, and still have no idea what is the best trinket for who and when to get which trinket in what situation. Like is the red one generally better for jungling and yellow for laning?


BG is just a rude thing to say. He was not warranted in his reaction, but you probably should not have said anything anyways. Pretty much the general rule of any game is the following: "if you don't have something nice to say, it's best not to say anything at all"

As for trinkets. Everyone starts yellow trinket for the most part. If you are jungle or support, usually they buy yellow, but there are times certain team comps might want red. During mid-game/ roaming, they will sell yellow and buy red trinket(sweeping). Not that many uses of blue trinket in pro play yet. It seems the other two are pretty strong. Mostly, if you see the enemy team has good map control, sell yellow, get red, and sweep your own jungle for wards(In solo queue, this is regardless of your role since it's pretty vital to have map control. Be careful though since there is a cooldown when you sell->buy different kinds of trinkets). Remember also that you can still buy 1 pink ward!

Most likley Bischu's AMA.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 02:48:39
December 24 2013 02:48 GMT
#1872
On December 24 2013 11:45 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 11:40 ketchup wrote:
On December 24 2013 03:27 Kupon3ss wrote:
A popular NA streamer/hightierpubber once noted that gold on KR is about the same as diamond in NA. Bronze KR in SC2 was about the same level as gold in the West as well. There's no reason to believe that a similar gap doesn't exist here.


Can I have source for this please? Why not just say who this was? I don't understand the need to call them a "popular NA streamer/hightier pubber" rather than just declare the source directly. I vaguely recall something similar to this, but I don't remember who said it/where this came from.

Most likley Bischu's AMA.


Okay, that explains that. Thanks
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 03:05:00
December 24 2013 02:49 GMT
#1873
Man. I think I have more fun in LoL when it is 4v5. Since there's no expectations of winning you can just go full HAM.

Does anyone know how the vlad vs mundo matchup plays out?
liftlift > tsm
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
December 24 2013 03:34 GMT
#1874
On December 24 2013 09:41 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 07:29 Gahlo wrote:
On December 24 2013 07:21 MoonBear wrote:
One issue is that Sejuani does not splitpush as well as Mundo or Shyvana can since she still has to pay mana to spam her abilities. Neither does she have any poke like Mundo Cleavers, or the raw damage to straight solo threaten a carry. (Compare Sej max 360+10%hp to Shyv 595+140%AD. It's not even close.) She's also missing a reliable %hp damage skill (I don't count her charge as a reliable %hp damage skill since it has such a long CD and is not supposed to be used for chunking people).

Big Pig does not provide that damaging tank threat that runs at you and makes you hit her because she's a threat. She's a controlling tank that provides a ridic amount of slows and a great Ult that chains well for initiation and is a nice way to punish a team that tries to rely on kiting and speed. But if she wants to break the backline she's going to need help to do so.

Well, unless they patch in those ridic test stats.

Huh?

Also, comparing her to Mundo and Shyvana as if she fills the same role is misleading.

Sorry, will explain a bit further. The thing is Sej requires you to build the team comp much more heavily around her and has more significant drawbacks to picking her in order to take advantage of the power she brings. In contrast, Mundo and Shyv are much safer picks that can slot into many team comps well and fulfil the tanky frontline duty of Sej but with less drawbacks. They may have less CC, but at this point most team comps will have a boatload of CC anyway so having a tank that can also act as a strong threat while providing poke/splitpush duties is pretty good.

There's also the issue where that being easy to use in a team comp, being able to draft without revealing too much information, or opening up weaknesses your opponents can then draft to exploit is important. Of course this matters less as you filter down skill levels (and skill + not making mistakes tends to matter far more than theoretical "best" team comps in solo queue) but it's still something to consider.

As for her test stats, well, let's say I had the joy of play-testing a ridiculously buffed Sej once.

It was glorious.

Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 09:00 Rooster Cogburn wrote:
So I have not posted in a while, or not really at all but I just have to ask your opinion on this guy I had in my game. Hopefully this is the right thread for this....[SNIP]

"bg" is often used as a "Well my team sucked wasn't my fault we lost" sort of way. But 4v5s are rough however you look at it. Maybe next time type a full sentence like "Disconnects are never fun. Oh well, gg" or something. I mean, if you're getting crushed you probably don't need to be micro-ing anyway lol.

And if someone is going to be unreasonable (like in this case) then just ignore them.

Your choice of Trinket kinda depends. If you want to play more controlling then the free wards can give you vision to control and contest jungle objectives, and keep your lanes safe if they're forgetting to ward. (Now, whether they have map awareness to see things in ward vision is another question.) Red is fine if you want to make sure things aren't warded when you gank but since clearing vision is so limited there's no guarantee you walked through something else just outside of sweeper range. There's no real right answer and it comes down to personal preference, but personally I prefer the Ward Trinket since I like the extra control I feel I have from more vision, and I can just lane gank anyway. And you can always swap it out for a sweeper mid-game for controlling big objectives later on. But each to their own.


I dont really think Sej needs a teamcomp built around her, aside from maybe needing someone to deal with Splitpushing, but its not exactly like you can't have a top laner that does that. Hell, what top laner doesn't do that? All viable top laners clear waves, duel, escape and in general split push well; if they are lacking in one they typically have the other two in spades.

I mean, obviously Sejuani is better in a team that wants to teamfight and is relatively stong early game, but its not like you couldn't throw in Sejuani any time you wanted to pick perfectly legitimate junglers like Zac or Vi.

Hell, even Lee Sin and Elise require certain teamcomps to emphasize their strengths. That being said, I do understand the drafting bit. I suppose I never looked at it in that light. Fair point.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 24 2013 03:38 GMT
#1875
On December 24 2013 11:49 wei2coolman wrote:
Man. I think I have more fun in LoL when it is 4v5. Since there's no expectations of winning you can just go full HAM.

Does anyone know how the vlad vs mundo matchup plays out?

Never played that matchup but Mundo really should stomp Vlad. Mundo's very tough to harrass off the lane, can comfortably rush Cowl -> Spirit Visage, Cleaver is perfect against Vladimir, and Vladimir has nothing to get away with after Mundo activates his ultimate.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
December 24 2013 03:49 GMT
#1876
As a jungler i prefer using red early and switching to blue in the lategame, esp. since in silver pretty much everyone buys ward trinket and sweeping one ward off the map only for it to get sightstone'd/trinket'd back in is kinda ditzy, at least with blue you can scout jungle brushes before moving through places you don't have permanent vision.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 24 2013 04:09 GMT
#1877
On December 24 2013 12:38 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 11:49 wei2coolman wrote:
Man. I think I have more fun in LoL when it is 4v5. Since there's no expectations of winning you can just go full HAM.

Does anyone know how the vlad vs mundo matchup plays out?

Never played that matchup but Mundo really should stomp Vlad. Mundo's very tough to harrass off the lane, can comfortably rush Cowl -> Spirit Visage, Cleaver is perfect against Vladimir, and Vladimir has nothing to get away with after Mundo activates his ultimate.

I'm not expecting Vlad to win the match up, but can he at least farm decently in it though? Keep up with in 10 or 20 cs in lane, without dying?
liftlift > tsm
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 24 2013 04:46 GMT
#1878
Well as I said, I haven't actually played that matchup so it's tough to say.

If Mundo can camp behind the enemy minions and threaten with cleaver, he should be able to deny at least some farm because the cleavers lead into tons of damage and Vlad's harrass does absolutely nothing to Mundo.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 06:38:10
December 24 2013 06:37 GMT
#1879
Seems like it would be an awful match-up for Vladimir, after 6 Mundo is capable of forcing and winning an all-in any time he wants. Persistent CC, high damage and strong sustain are Vladimir's bane.

Summoners aside, post-6 I see the lane going like this:
-eventually Mundo lands a cleaver
-the slow is enough for him to get close to Vlad
-Mundo can now start whacking on Vlad, Vlad can fight (he'll lose for sure) or pool to escape
-Once pool runs out, Vlad is dead if he gets hit by another cleaver (pretty likely)

Not to mention Mundo has no problem at all just rushing Spirit Visage and taking no damage from Vladimir.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 24 2013 07:04 GMT
#1880
I'm on board the Karma train. Top and Support.
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