EPT[Patch 3.14] PreSeason 4 General Discussion - Page 72
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Khul Sadukar
Australia1735 Posts
Say on WW, cause I cant afford a champ yet. | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On November 26 2013 19:48 Shikyo wrote: Isn't that only if you use no AoE to clear? Are there even any singletarget junglers? I guess Warwick... And Fiora. oh right. so single target = 945 / 630 aoe = 315 / 210 so depending on how much single target vs aoe you'll get 315-945 / 210-630 also these are using base health of the camps. you won't have spirit stone at that time but whatever, it's a decent approximation. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23436 Posts
On November 26 2013 19:58 nafta wrote: Funniest thing is the spirit stone change would make wriggle even shittier. seriously | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
decently interesting. | ||
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Arisen
United States2382 Posts
Edit: I should preface this; I was watching a stream today after not watching/reading anything for the past 2 or so days. The streamer was saying that jungle was 100% unnecessary at this point, "If you're jungling right now, you're doing it wrong." Mostly he justified by saying the tragon shield was so strong, so you will always bet more gold by duo laning top, and every pro team was doing 2-1-2 at the moment. I don't know if there has already been changes, I'm seeing a lot of people still going jungle in high elo streams, but I see people do things they know aren't that good on these streams all the time too, so they could just be jungling because they can. | ||
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OmegaKnetus
Germany431 Posts
Complete bullshit | ||
Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On November 26 2013 20:56 OmegaKnetus wrote: Evelynn is so broken right now, I just dodge if the enemy team gets her. There's no way to stop her ganks and she just snowballs hard. It's even worse than before the vision changes, as you now can't leave your tower without being in the dangerzone. Complete bullshit You can ward her jungle and know pretty well where she is going. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On November 26 2013 21:08 Shikyo wrote: You can ward her jungle and know pretty well where she is going. lol are you kidding me Shikyo. Nobody gets more than 2 wards at the start at the moment, you can't do that. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On November 26 2013 21:11 Sponkz wrote: lol are you kidding me Shikyo. Nobody gets more than 2 wards at the start at the moment, you can't do that. When do you mean? Usually 1 by jungler and 1 by you are enough. Being blind to ganks is standard before your first back anyway so it doesn't matter there. | ||
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CutieBK
Sweden227 Posts
On November 25 2013 09:18 GolemMadness wrote: You think you're team fighting, but really they're all backdooring your nexus. Late to the party on this one, but still feel I have to say something. Laughed like a mad man <3 | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On November 26 2013 21:12 Shikyo wrote: When do you mean? Usually 1 by jungler and 1 by you are enough. Being blind to ganks is standard before your first back anyway so it doesn't matter there. All you're gonna see is Evelyn clearing her buffs, not much else to gain really. If you place them at level 1, you will have vision untill 4.30 (4.40 if you really wanna push it) and then you give up brush control in bottom lane. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On November 26 2013 20:56 OmegaKnetus wrote: Evelynn is so broken right now, I just dodge if the enemy team gets her. There's no way to stop her ganks and she just snowballs hard. It's even worse than before the vision changes, as you now can't leave your tower without being in the dangerzone. Complete bullshit Yet her win rate is still barely over 50%. Meanwhile in Diamond, Rammus has almost a 60% win rate. | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
So the blue pot start was an advice from a viewer of his stream ? Haha that's awesome I understand now why Riot doesn't want to fix EUW servers, they want to prevent EU teams from training so they lose to NA, GG ! | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On November 26 2013 21:19 Sponkz wrote: All you're gonna see is Evelyn clearing her buffs, not much else to gain really. If you place them at level 1, you will have vision untill 4.30 (4.40 if you really wanna push it) and then you give up brush control in bottom lane. You see where she is. Sighting near top lane -> bot is safe for a while. I also don't really see how you lose brush control, Evelynn needs to physically be there all the same. | ||
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Wrag
France124 Posts
On November 26 2013 21:47 Shikyo wrote: You see where she is. Sighting near top lane -> bot is safe for a while. I also don't really see how you lose brush control, Evelynn needs to physically be there all the same. Bot lane going to blue/red every 2-3m to ward it gives plenty of opportunity for the opposing lane to assert bush control even before you consider the extra ward needed (and one less lane ward before first back). So eve created bot lane preissure (and top, and mid, etc...) just by existing, as she allways has. She was a strong jungler before, why would she suddenly not be strong anymore when arguably she's one of the champs getting the most out of the patch??? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
The wraiths are mid's responsibility anyway and already the most important spot. I also would ward the brush near double golems but it's not as crucial. Still, warding the buffs is something botlanes actually do do pretty often although it's primarily up to the jungler. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
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